#brian cogman

[sapphires-and-gold-fics]

All of us swearing our swords to Brian Cogman

[winterfellchild]

Questioner: We turn to Sansa at Winterfell, and she undermines Jon a couple of times in the episode, and - Bryan Cogman: She's 'undermining' him? I mean, so? He's only been king like a week. And everyone's like, 'oh, she's undermining him in public'? Well, let's think about it for a second. He has just walked in there and said that Aegon T@rgaryen's daughter has arrived with what are essentially nukes, invited him to come down, and he's going to go. It's a crazy, risky plan! And his reasoning is sound, but her reasoning for being like 'what the hell is wrong with you?' is sound too. And why shouldn't she raise it there, you know, he didn't bother to consult her in private before the meeting. So I feel like ( I get defensive of her) also, this is something that's important to remember, she's just a kid. He's a kid. They're kids thrust into these leadership positions. And it's messy, and their relationship as brother and sister is messy and complicated. So I guess she could have used some more tact, but A) it's not as fun to write or perform, and B) she loves him, she thinks he's risking his life. The last T@rgaryen that summoned a Stark, as she points out quite correctly, roasted said Stark alive in his own armor.

GoT’s writer Bryan Cogman: In Conversation about ep 7x02

So BC disagreed that Sansa can be described as attempting to "undermine" Jon and this was not the writers' intention ( he wrote ep 7x02) and I’m really thankful that he confirmed our (I mean, jonsa fandom) view on this matter.

Also, he described Jon and Sansa brother and sister relationship as “messy and complicated”...

Imagine how much more complicated it will be when they knew about R+L=J.

P.S. I already liked him for saying that he really loves their relationship that developed over season 6 and continues into season 7 during the ep 7x02 commentary when he also gave us the “take care of her, watch over her for me” quote and now I like him even more.

P.P.S. Nice to know that the writers haven’t forgotten what dragons really are:  they are essentially nukes

[anditendshowyoudexpect]

i haven't been able to force myself to listen to any of the double dildo's commentary to the end (or the kids', although for an entirely different reason)

but now it's 2x03, Cogman and Sakharov, and i almost wish the episode didn't have to end

like Brian's childlike joy when he says how excited he was when he realized he'd be the one to write Brienne's introduction and how she's his favorite character in the saga and how much he loves Gwen

[mentallyinwalmart]

New theory that GRRM will turn up dead

We’ll all know who was behind it. They wanted their ending to be the only one left smh

[nonagaye]

Choke scene Commentary

40:05

I love this relationship that developed over the last season and continues into this [season]--Jon and Sansa. (rambles on a bit about them not growing up together and never sharing a scene.)

40:40 Mark:

Brian Cogman: It was fun to explore the fact that the first Stark siblings that we reunite weren’t ever particularly close. And both have different motives; that tension has been fun to explore, and i think the two of them were terrific.

42:27 - 43:42 Mark

Brian Cogman: This was a scene[Jon in the Crypts] that was not in the original outline. Usually the staff, David and Dan, and Dave and myself--we map out every scene and we outline it in great detail. Then we script the episodes from the outlines--generally it adheres pretty close to it. 

But when I was writing the episode it occurred to me that Littlefiner and Jon had never really spoken. There was obviously a lot of tension there. Littlefinger has been allowed to stay in the castle because Littlefinger essentially saved their lives, ‘The Battle of the Bastards, but Jon’s well aware of Littlefingers role in putting Sansa in the horrible position she was put in, in season 5.

So, I dreamed up this scene and I'm really happy that the guys didn’t do what they sometimes do when I dream up a new scene and go, “What the hell is this?” and throw it out. But they liked this one.

And of corse it was meant to have a lot of visual echoes to the Littlefinger/Ned relationship of season 1; right down to the chokehold that he’s about to do. Which is directly inspired by a similar moment in episode 3, season 1, where Ned throws Littlefinger up against a wall--BAM.

44:24 Mark:

Oh, i just realized they cut the Ghost scene. Ha. There was a bit here where Jon came out of the Crypt and Ghost came up to the him and he petted him and said, “Take care of her, watch over her for me.” But I guess those dire-wolves are expensive--guess it got cut. Ah well, Ghost is somewhere there roaming around. (x)

[ladyjonquilinthenorth]

So, now I'm emotional over a non-existent direwolf. Great.

Help.

[winterfellchild]

Questioner:

What I was impressed by was the little hints that we saw of potentially her ( Dænerys ) becoming like her father in those conversations ( her talking with Varys). You know, threatening to burn somebody alive, in any universes, it's not great.

Bryan Cogman:

She has dragons, an effective form of execution.

Questioner:

But knowing what her father was doing to people that line sticks in your ear and also when inviting him ( Jon) down and she wants him to immediately bend the knee

Bryan Cogman:

Yeah, I mean, she sees this as her birthright... it’s plain and simple, you know, they took this from her, it’s hers.

And so much of the episode ( really the whole season) not just for Dænerys but for a lot of our characters is dealing with the legacy of their families and the generations that preceded them and dealing not only with how they feel about it and what they might share with some of those ancestors but how other people perceive you.

That legacy it's kind of why I wanted to originally call it the Mad King’s daughter ( I like Stormborn, I think is a great title actually), I really wanted to call it the Mad King's daughter and actually it would have made more sense.

In the original edit there were more characters referring to her like this in pretty much every scene and I think some of that was lost in the final edit but in the original script and in the original edit ( which was longer) pretty much every character that wasn't in the Dænerys‘s circle was referring to her as “the Mad King's daughter is here” .

Considering this idea that she's got a reputation before she has ever set foot there, because she has a brother's reputation too, that first scene is definitely about her reconciling with that, wrestling with how much of that legacy is good for her brand and what isn't and certainly that is a big part of the no-fire bombing strategy.

It's like: you could come in here and torch the whole place and everyone would be horrified and what have you achieved? If you want to rule, you need to take a different approach.

But under that, and I think you picked up on something in that first scene, is that she's got a real kind of need and desire to going guns blazing and from an emotional point of view the scene has to set up this.

GoT’s writer Bryan Cogman: In Conversation about ep 7x02

This is what BC said about Dænerys in season 7. It’s not a perfect transcription of what he said but it was not so easy to transcript it words for words and write something that made sense but anyway that’s what he said ( watch the video for more info).

Imagine, the meltdown is the episode was called “the Mad King’s daughter”... the petty me would have loved to see it.

Anyway, I think it’s pretty interesting that in the end ( after a lot of words to say that Dænerys is dealing with her family difficult reputation) the conclusion is that even if she tried she's got a real kind of need and desire to going guns blazing.

[queenmiriamele]

Hey, guys. We've been being too hard on D&D, that's why they didn't appear on SDCC. No one would want to be "analyzed and filtered and bashed". It's logical they retired last minute.

Let's be positive. Brian Cogman's 8x02 is decent on it's own, there's dialogue there guys. Such a pitty writing on a long running series requires characterization and thematic continuity.

Here is my positivity and constructive criticism.