Now some has time has passed, how y'all feel about episode 15?
I still hate it,thanks.
I hated it,but now I am neutral on it now.
I hated it but now I kinda like it.
neutral on it,there are some elements I liked it but overrall meh
I liked it then,and I still like it now.
it's complicated(explain in tags)
Voting ended onApr 23
As for my own thoughts about it,I fall under fourth options.There were elements I liked about it,but do I like the episode overrall?meh,not really.
Here are my full thoughts about it.
I liked sugar swan part in this.I wont say it was perfect but I liked they actually did something with her unlike ovenbreak.Maybe if I rewatched dessert paradise episodes that would change my mind,but I disliked how she didn't have much screentime in that plotline.
"But cheese,she didnt have much screen time here either"
fair enough,IDK I like her here more since like I said,she did something and got her badass moment.Even if it was limited.I do think she should have gotten her update though cuz even I agree she was set up a long time ago.She should have gotten something prior to this.
I liked they actually developed gingerbrave bit here.I liked how he was put thorough the wringer here,but ultimately came out victory.Also liked the ultimate cookie, they were both creepy and cute(my favorite combo).It's interesting how they wanted to be one gingerbrave especially I heard ult cookie has some of the beasts' dough in them.
So I guess they got the certain beasts' attachment issues as well.Like I said I do like this part...but I do feel like ginger brave's insecurities did kinda come out of nowhere.Like I am not saying they should have had him mentioning feel lesser than others all the time but perhaps could have slipped it during this war.Like have him in episode 14,wishes he was stronger to help his friends and strawberry comfort him.Like a little build up you know.
I wont say too much about little giant cookie stuff,even if it felt it came out of nowhere bit.I think it was fine and I hope to him again.
I loved espresso's part no notes.I liked how they finally gave him the spotlight he deserves to show how badass he was.Espresso fans lowkey won with that part of the story.
He is forever the goat.As for my nitpicks,I felt like they cut the dough trio too early from the story.What they built up for them in episode 13 was interesting,before they decided to shove them aside for "cooler" stuff.If I was given the means to fix this,I would probably have them help espresso more into taking the castle before they part ways.Maybe espresso offer to help them in the future when they meet again.
For lily's part,I liked how they didn't brush the aside what happened in premonition of doom update.I am glad AOD got to be important....yet no doughael 🙄. White lily and dark enchantress confrontation is great too, but I do wish they interacted prior.It was great but doesnt really sell me on their relationship.
DE needed more screen time too imo.Like I know she is gonna do stuff in ovenbreak now,but I feel like that might screw her over bit since she is a side plot.We will see though, ovenbreak might surprise me.Let see what else did I like?hmmm,I liked pastry inclusion even if it was short. Thats pretty much it....I am not gonna comment on ending with white lily,I have no dog in that fight.So moving on.
The beasts' death or well temporal death,I have to say even if I was somewhat tapped out while watching both salt & lily part the day after.I really liked this part,hell I loved it.I loved seeing them being put through the wringer.It was a long time coming imo.I especially shmilk's part seeing his beliefs slowly crumble was entertaining to me.Eventually getting so he took the part of the ult cookie, to keep on living with rest of his friends(excluding silent salt) .I have made it no secret,I love shmilk being the main villain for act 2.I feel kinda validated,for having a feeling that shmilk might play a bigger role in episode 14.
So you must assume I have no problem with this part right?Weeelll,I am gonna be honest if I like shmilk being the main villian.It does come out of nowhere ,liiike?I know it was foreshadowed prior, but I feel like they could have done more to justify it.Even if it make narratively speaking.
Also while I do like the beasts' death,I hate they were sidelined during the main part of the story.Like if you didnt know there was silent salt's part ,you would have almost no idea what happened to them.And I am honestly surprised the ancients didnt comment on the beasts while they were trapped.Like you would think pure "We meant to be together" vanilla cookie would say something but I guess not.Like I am willing to believe DC & GC,but not hollyberry and pure vanilla imo.It felt weird it have them be shoved aside during that part of the story.Anyway I believe thats all my thoughts on this in case any of you were curious about them.Fingers crossed the silentlily baby will be important.
Putting personal feelings aside,do you genuinely think the beasts will get redeemed/get a redemption arc in the next arc?
Yes,they will without a doubt-
No,they will remain the same just without their powers(neutrals prob)
I can see it going either way
Other/feel to explain
Voting ended onFeb 24
At first I was certain they would but now I am not so sure,since someone who doesnt believe they will,pointed out the beasts and ancients are never meant to see eye to eye.It's whole reason of their opposing virtues.Ying & Yang thing, forever being opposite.
So whenever one of them is good,they has to be bad.So it would be unlikely for them to have a redemption arc.Ancients being ones able to change,the beasts being not able to & all that(And with addition of the bug beasts it further strengthens their stance)
I personally disagree with this, but I can't say,I dont see where they are coming from with this.Especially since so far,they have talked about bug beast and saga focusing on the beasts past...nothing to do with their characters after DE war.
So I am curious to see more perspective on this.Both pro,anti,and in middle stands on the beasts getting a redemption.Please keep things respectful.
Since silent salt is drawing near (basically four months away),as of now...
What do you think is underneath their helmet?
Elder faerie
someone who related to elder faerie(I.e. sibling, partner, close friend)
Another version of white lily
Nothing, they are headless/the spirit possess the armor
A completely new character that has their head
Other(explain in tags)
Voting ended onMay 25, 2025
As for me, I am not sure.... I do want it to be elder faerie because it would be so interesting AND funny though I am inclined to believe it might another version of white lily since the design on their soul looks similar to white lily's staff...who knows maybe I am looking far into this....
