#co-conscious

[bardic-tales]

So, far? This week is horrible. Yesterday was a terror. Today Woke up with a cold this morning and a fever. Both husbands are saying stay in bed.

It is weird to have him being able to project himself. Sometimes, I feel him against my side and a wing over me and the bed. Mainly when I'm upset or sick.

[bungogi]

What the site actually displayed:

What my co-conning ass read:

[dissociative-memes]

[ Image: 18-piece background, alternating between blue & orange with a picture of a young degu in the middle. Top text reads: “CO-CONSCIOUS WITH MULTIPLE OTHER GENDERS” Bottom text reads: “FEEL LIKE I JUST CREATED A WHOLE NEW GENDER”]

i’m genderqueer as it is, but then if i’m co-conscious or there’s a few alters who are close to the front who have different genders then it just makes me feel incredibly wibbly (for lack of a better description).

from 2015 (!)

http://web.archive.org/web/20150722042920/http://whynot-dissociativedegu.tumblr.com:80/tagged/ddmeme/page/16

[plural-culture-is]

Is it possible/normal to not be fronting but in the front room? I cant get to the inner world so I'm always in the front room but not fronting

And also during this, I don't have like amnesia but the memories look like I'm looking at it through a foggy window

yes, you can! And if you can see the outerworld whilst you’re there but not fronting, that’s called being co-conscious, and yes it’s normal. Though I’m not sure why memories from then would be foggy, sorry

[mkboys]

So that thing in Moon Knight, about sometimes being able to be a ‘fly on the wall’ so-to-speak and be aware of what another alter is doing/experiencing while not fronting yourself — is that a real actual thing, or something similar? In the latter case, how is it different? Genuinely curious, Btw, thank you.

Tw for depersonalisation Hi! Isaac here, thank you for asking us a question, you're always going to have our consent when it comes to education on this topic. I'd like to start by saying we cannot be a single source for information as complex and as vast as DID. I hope this gives a sliver of insight into what it may be for others. We deeply encourage other systems to voice their opinions and correct us when they know more about this than we do, as we didn't spend as many years in the depths of research as others may have.

I apologise, I cannot say what is 'real' or not. I wish I had that answer. It's subjective and dependent on the individual's condition. This is best to be asked to either a professional who works with patients with disassociative identity disorder or OSDD variations and valid to ask other systems other than ours, as we'll be giving information from our collectively lived experience.

I am very sorry for anyone who is deeply disturbed by this film, B/eing J/ohn M/alkov/ich. Now that movie as a whole has nothing to do with DID. I don't want it to come up in search results with any connotations that it may. I will place a separate link for it with the scene because I cannot locate it anywhere on youtube, I ended up downloading the entire movie for this, and I'll include a separate post/explanation once that finishes up. Here it is!

TW depersonalisation,TW first person visual, TW Food and Leftovers, TW first person audio https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h_0u-tVo7zULekzqb

This question is related to co-consciousness which then is further explained by a category of this topic, co-fronting; "When two or more alters are in control of the body at the same time to varying degrees…Alters may be aware of each others' actions or own each others' actions as their own to varying degrees." It will vary constantly from system to system, alter to alter, outside influences like being at work or driving. You can be co-fronting and have limited access to the body/any control. It can be simply having access to the senses (all of them, a few, or only one). This quote is from the Wizard System; ""Being co-conscious with someone else acting though is even weirder. It can be almost like being a puppet - watching your body doing things you have no intention or desire to do. Sometimes it's scary but other times it feels sort of dream-like and later it's hard to remember what happened,"" (Time Loss, Black Outs, and Co-consciousness, 2021.)

DID is so complex that we'll forget what we've just remembered. What we forgot we could remember years from now, it's not linear and it cannot be mapped out as much as we wish it. We have tried to create a timeline but our perspectives on when events occurred are not consistent with one another. It's similar to how that recent episode 5 of Moon Knight, Steven remembers his mum entirely different from how Marc does. And even with this knowledge, there is always a chance of him losing the 'reality' in those memories again for the sake of the system.

Overall, yes it happens, not as common as I know of? Because everyone has different lived experiences, and it could be what someone else has, but it could also be absolutely nothing like it. Isn't that quite frustrating? To not have a direct answer to it all? We definitely believe it can be, and that's where you'll get systems that do not want to answer questions such as these. Or some that do and direct themselves as head of information on the matter. Remaining partial to I have enough to answer, I chose to, but am one bloke on tube perceiving others to be on a plane. It's a matter of what I, an alter, am capable of. Then it trickles down to the rest of the system, and then to the body and where we are, what we are doing at that moment. If the situation allows, we will try to stay co-conscious as it's a preference to us. Other systems will say differently about their perspectives. Sorry if I am repeating myself!

I hope this made some sense yeah? Our subconscious is quite complex!

Citation DID-Research.org. 2021. Time Loss, Black Outs, and Co-consciousness. [online] Available at: <https://did-research.org/did/identity_alteration/time_loss> [Accessed 1 May 2022].

[justanothersyscourse]

Again sorry to bother, but when do you know if someone is co-con or you're co-con? Sorry it's prolly dumb -🍵

YOU’RE GUNNA LOSE YOUR KNEECAPS, ANON!

Next time you send an ask, I want you to say, “This is the most IMPORTANT question you’re ever going to answer!!!”

Because it is. It’ll always be important <3 If it’s important to you, it’s important to me.

You know how people like to say “everything is a spectrum”? This one really IS. “Co-con”, or co-consciousness, can refer to a NUMBER of different states-- from a blurry mess of alters, to more than one alter being fully conscious and sharing control, and everything in between those two points. 

It’s TYPICALLY understood by the masses to be two alters that are both “sharing” the driver’s seat-- fully aware and conscious and sharing control. When this is happening, it’s usually fairly obvious to both alters. Barriers are down, communication is clear, thoughts and memories are flowing fairly cleanly. I’ve also seen this called “Co-Fronting”. 

But there are “messier” and less noticeable moments of co-con. Sometimes my partner will be like, “Okay, what’s up with you, who are you “halfing” with,” and I’m sort of shocked by it, only to realize I can now feel one of my alters creepily peering over my shoulder like the creepy-creeper he is. So sometimes you don’t realize you’re in “co-con”, sometimes co-con is just a passive-influence on you-- an alter that’s awake and aware and interested, but sitting next to you, rather than in the driver’s seat with you, pushing their feelings onto you. Sometimes you can tell they’re not your feelings, sometimes it’s not easy to differentiate. 

Co-con can also be used to simply refer to alters that have communication lines open at nearly all times-- such as those in an OSDD system. In this sense, it’s used to describe any alters that are aware of the outside world together. For example, Alter A and Alter B will usually share awareness of the outside world, and are considered co-con, but Alter A and Alter C have no communication and are never co-con. Alter B and C share awareness and are co-con. 

Alter D has no idea what’s happening EVER. Alter D is never co-con.

Pooooor Alter D. 

Unfortunately, you won’t always know you’re co-con, it’s not a singular experience and it’s not always clear :( 

[justdidthings]

what it's like to be co-con whilst shopping

alter 1: this is kind of cute, I wonder if they have my size

alter 2: are you kidding, that colour doesn't compliment the body's skin tone at all and would any of us really wear that?

alter 1: no but maybe if-

alter 3: oh my god did you see what she was wearing

alter 4: what?

alter 3: that looked awful, seriously why would someone dress like that, looks like a trash bag

alter 2: excuse me maybe she likes looking like a trash bag, stop being so rude

alter 4: can we please look for jeans while we're here too

alter 5: do we really wanna wear that kind of-

alter 1: you can shush, you're never even out to wear anything we have - no front, no opinion...

host: o.o

[odessa-system]

Me: my disorder gives me real problems that seriously impact how I function day to day and shouldn’t be made out to be a joke 

also me, but co-con: I wish I had two bodies so I could play Fornite and online shop at the same time