Brujay (Bruce Wayne/Batman x Jason Todd/Robin/Red Hood), DC Comics
ZADR (Zim x Dib Membrane), Invader Zim
Voting ended onJun 8, 2024
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Disclaimer: All ships (other than the now-eliminated NozoCoco) on this bracket are FOLLOWER-SUBMITTED ships, the Mods do not always hold necessary knowledge to be aware of any errors or fanonizing what should be canon material that may arise.
Brujay Propaganda (Pseudo-Incest, Age Gap, Toxic Dynamic)
"This ship has everything a comshipper could want. Adopted father/son pseudo-incest. Age gap. They quite often hate each others guts. Bruce hates Jason because he uses guns and kills people. Jay hates Bruce for letting the Joker kill him and not avenging him. Jay tried to kill Bruce on more than one occasion. Bruce beat the hell out of Jay on even more occasions and did even try to kill him once. Jay has Masssssive daddy issues. Bruce has a delicious guilt complex about Jay's death. There's so much you can do with this ship. Maybe Bruce picked Jason to adopt because Jay was (canonically) a teenage hooker. Maybe Bruce saw teenage Jay running around in those booty shorts of his Robin suit and just couldn't not go after him.
ZADR Propaganda (Toxic Dynamic, Species Difference - Dib is human while Zim is an Irken alien, Age Gap, AdultxMinor - Sort Of)
"These two self-serious goofuses are obsessed with each other. Each validates the other's delusions just by existing. They're nemeses who resent others getting between them. Each may be the only one who really understands the other."
Arthorin (Arthur Denton x Orin Scrivello), Little Shop of Horrors
Stuilly (Billy Loomis x Stu Macher), Scream
Voting ended onJun 11, 2024
Antis DNI - Block the tag "comship" if this causes discomfort.
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Disclaimer: All ships (other than NozoCoco) on this bracket are FOLLOWER-SUBMITTED ships, the Mods do not always hold necessary knowledge to be aware of any errors or fanonizing what should be canon material that may arise.
Arthorin Propaganda (Toxic Dynamic)
"For anyone who hasn’t seen Little Shop of Horrors, Orin is a sadistic and abusive dentist who gets off on causing others pain and Arthur Denton (otherwise known as Bill Murray to those who don’t know Little Shop well enough to know the character’s name) is a masochistic patient of his who makes him extremely uncomfortable with his enjoyment of his dental torture. If comfortable with scenes like this, I would recommend watching the fairly short scene that showcases their dynamic if you haven’t seen it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB7R0ZxNgC4) because it’s hilarious and one of the more iconic scenes in the movie. Plus the explicit queer rep (in the form of Arthur at the very least) in an 80s movie is cool, and the narrative presents him as being weird because of his masochism and not because of his queerness. There’s already some subtextual evidence of Orin not being straight with how he physically dominates Seymour and clearly gets very excited about this and the idea of hurting him, and the contrast of how he interacts with another man who is clearly uncomfortable with this and a man who clearly loves it is interesting.
This difference can be read as a joke about sadists and masochists being surprisingly incompatible and/or as an insight into some interesting aspects of Orin’s character. With Orin being so incredibly hypermasculine, I like the idea of him essentially worshiping at the altar of masculinity and having some very thoroughly shoved down insecurities about needing to be as masculine as possible due to a combination of his naturally enthusiastic and aggressive personality and growing up/living in a society that heavily prioritizes masculinity and sees masculinity ‘tainted’ by anything resembling femininity as not real masculinity (1930s-60s America), and his extreme discomfort with providing sexual pleasure even when the actions that are providing it can also benefit him can be read as a demonstration of this, since the conceptualization of women as being of the gender that is ‘for’ sexual pleasure and men as being of the gender that should receive it exclusively that he would’ve picked up as a significant part of his worldview in this reading would naturally cause him to be viscerally uncomfortable with providing sexual pleasure.
The fact that Arthur is a man compounds this, since gayness and gay sex acts were often seen as feminine at the time. With Seymour, he can pretend to himself that he’s just defending his ‘property’ of his girlfriend who Seymour has a crush on ‘as any man has a right to,’ and Seymour’s reaction of fear helps with this, but Arthur in contrast inadvertently forces him to come face to face with his deeply rooted fear of not being masculine enough instead of being able to mostly shove it down like he normally does by causing him to want to ‘outcompete’ him ‘as a man should’ by torturing him until he no longer derives sexual gratification from it, thus temporarily trapping him in the actions that are bringing up this insecurity for him. Arthur, of course, ‘wins’ by deriving even more sexual gratification from what Orin is doing, thereby eventually forcing him to ‘surrender’ by kicking him out, which he responds to by attempting to frame this ‘surrender’ as him kicking a man who is failing to follow his rules out of ‘his territory’ ‘as a man should’ and then taking his anger out on Seymour/attempting to reestablish his masculinity by conquering another man, which is a great setup for a very tense confrontation between one of the villains and the main protagonist and is very ironic considering that Orin is acting pretty gay as a way of trying to make up for doing something gay.
Plus with Seymour arguably kind of wanting to be Orin in a way in order to be properly masculine for Audrey/so that she’ll want him (as shown by him stating through a metaphor of wanting his Harley machine, a symbol of masculinity, to be like James Dean, a symbol of masculinity, in order to make other men jealous, which again ties into the behavior of outcompeting other men that men were/are expected to do, after seeing him drive off with Audrey on said Harley machine/metaphorically take possession of her due to him being ‘properly masculine’), Orin himself essentially being whipped into a frenzy by those same notions of what is ‘proper’ masculinity and then attempting to torture and maybe even kill him is an excellent metaphor for how destructive that desire of his could end up being and really goes to show that no one wins when it comes to restrictive gender norms, even those who are good at performing them and like them."
Stuilly Propaganda (Abusive Dynamic)
"Billy is bent on murderous revenge, and Stu is the fucked up little person who's along for the ride. Their killing spree climaxed with symbolic mutual penetration as they stab each other as part of their scheme to pin it all on the film's final girl. The way they touch each other is affectionate to the point of intimacy. When their plan is out, Stu can't keep his hands off of Billy."
Aeshaia (Strophaia x Aeshma/Ichiro Umoregi/Akuma Kun II), Akuma Kun
Elriccest (Edward Elric x Alphonse Elric), Fullmetal Alchemist
Voting ended onJun 8, 2024
Antis DNI - Block the tag "comship" if this causes discomfort.
Remember, you are voting for the ship you prefer, not the ship you find more problematic
Propaganda for both ships under the cut.
Disclaimer: All ships (other than the now-eliminated NozoCoco) on this bracket are FOLLOWER-SUBMITTED ships, the Mods do not always hold necessary knowledge to be aware of any errors or fanonizing what should be canon material that may arise.
Aeshaia Propaganda (Species Difference, Age Gap)
"It's their love for each other that kickstarts the main conflict in the show. Strophaia is this powerful being whos been around for longer than… basically everyone, except like. Satan. Ichiro is just some normal person (at first), and yet, Strophaia decides that this human is his favorite. After Ichiro accidentally hurts Strophaia, causing him to retreat to heal, he's… adopted? Kidnapped??? By Shingo, and he becomes Akuma Kun II. But Strophaia wants him back, and Ichiro misses him. It's so bad it causes Solomons Flute to crack over the years, and it's revealed the flute cracks when Ichiro loses someone he loves. They canonically love each other. Ichiro tries to shoot Strophaia with a gun, and Strophaia just giggles. He plays along, then assures Ichiro he knows he'd never try to actually kill him. And Ichiro can't bring himself to kill him. He beats him, rendering him weak enough to lose his physical form, but he doesn't kill him. He loves him too much. They're just. ourghhhhhh"
Elriccest Propaganda (Incest)
"Siblings so Codependent… Who else literally gave an arm and a leg to bind his brother's soul into a suit of armor so he didn't have to lose his only living blood relative (to their knowledge)? And Al was always willing to reciprocate to get Ed's arm and leg back. Inseparable."
Lucifadam (Lucifer Morningstar x Adam), Hazbin Hotel
Stannarrator (Stanley x The Narrator), The Stanley Parable
Voting ended onJun 8, 2024
Antis DNI - Block the tag "comship" if this causes discomfort.
Remember, you are voting for the ship you prefer, not the ship you find more problematic
Propaganda for both ships under the cut.
Disclaimer: All ships (other than the now-eliminated NozoCoco) on this bracket are FOLLOWER-SUBMITTED ships, the Mods do not always hold necessary knowledge to be aware of any errors or fanonizing what should be canon material that may arise.
Lucifadam Propaganda (Harmful Dynamic)
"Lucifer is a fallen angel while Adam is still an angel, leading an army of exorcists that slaughters Lucifer's people annually. He's constantly killing demons, and Lucifer has basically given up trying to prevent this after several attempts. However, he has that protective fire reignited in him when Adam decides to go after Lucifer's daughter - and Lucifer makes a comment that many take in a more suggestive fashion than Lucifer intended. They're SO unhealthy for each other, but that one comment eliciting that kind of reaction sparked fun ideas for their ship in my head, so I wanted to submit these two together."
Stannarrator Propaganda (Codependency, Toxic Power Dynamics - In most endings)
"The Stanley Parable is a game about The Narrator wanting to tell a story through their game but having to rely on the Stanley's choices. The core of the game is that Stanley and The Narrator are bound to each other: Stanley needs The Narrator to make the "parable" he lives in, and The Narrator needs Stanley to make the choices that drive the story.
The Narrator clearly has the most power in this dynamic, since he can alter the world the Stanley lives in: modifying the rooms, creating and deleting objects at will, reloading the game, altering Stanley's perception, knowing almost everything and being almost everywhere. But, despite all that power, he isn't able to control the one thing that keeps his story existing: Stanley's choices.
Okay, spoilers to both the original 2013 game and the Ultra Deluxe remake from here on out since it's impossible to talk about them without spoiling a lot of the endings.
In one of the new endings on the Ultra Deluxe remake, the Skip Button ending, The Narrator creates a button that lets Stanley skip his dialogue `inspired` by a bad Steam review, but when Stanley clicks this button The Narrator is left all alone in that room, and which each click the skip becomes longer, from minutes, to hours, to weeks, to months… And in the fifth skip (where Stanley stays frozen for like, one, two weeks), The Narrator breaks up, talking about how he needs Stanley to listen to him and how scared he is of slipping back into the silence he passes through every time we use the skip button. In his own words, `I can't lose myself in the stretch of emptiness between you and me.` Of course, since it's the only way to advance in this ending, we skip again, and again, until The Narrator ends up eventually disappearing after the 12th or 13th skip, leaving Stanley alone in a desert, and that's where the ending stops, though it continues on the Epilogue, but I'll leave some things to add as propaganda during the polls.
Despite this, The Narrator still has more control of the situation than Stanley, like on the Explosion ending, where he traps Stanley in a room while the building's destroys itself as consequence for choosing to activate the Mind Control Machine instead of shutting it down to free everyone. He keeps acting like Stanley is nothing but a vehicle for him to pass a message through his story. `Watching you try to make sense of everything and take back the control wrested away from you…it's quite rich. I almost hate to see it go!` `You're only still playing instead of watching a cutscene because I want to watch you for every moment that you're powerless, to see you made humble. […] You wanted to control this world; that's fine. But I'm going to destroy it first, so you can't.`
But there's one point where they're equal, they both want to free themselves. On the Museum ending, we meet a being that is higher than The Narrator, the Female Narrator (yeah, that's her name), and she gives the best description of the relationship between these two: `Oh, look at these two. How they wish to destroy one another. How they wish to control one another. How they both wish to be free. Can you see? Can you see how much they need one another? No, perhaps not. Sometimes these things cannot be seen.`"
LukeLeia (Luke Skywalker x Leia Organa), Star Wars
Zackray (Rachel "Ray" Gardner x Isaac "Zack" Foster), Angels of Death
Voting ended onJun 11, 2024
Antis DNI - Block the tag "comship" if this causes discomfort.
Remember, you are voting for the ship you prefer, not the ship you find more problematic
Propaganda for both ships under the cut.
Disclaimer: All ships (other than NozoCoco) on this bracket are FOLLOWER-SUBMITTED ships, the Mods do not always hold necessary knowledge to be aware of any errors or fanonizing what should be canon material that may arise.
LukeLeia Propaganda (Incest)
The original retroactively problematic ship! They had good chemistry!
Zackray Propaganda (MinorxAdult, Toxic Dynamic)
"Ray is a 13-year-old girl who wakes up in a weird building without memories. Oh, there are some weird killers in the building with her too. Zack is one of them and the first time they meet he runs after her with a scythe. Love at first sight <3 (/joke)
At first, her memories return and she remembers why she was in that building in the first place. With her memories back, she becomes apathetic and almost indifferent to everything.
After Zack saves her from a very creepy doctor, she turns to him and asks one thing: `Could you kill me?`. Zack is very confused, but after he realizes that he would never be able to leave the building alone, he offers her a deal. He would only kill her after she helped him leave the building. This is the beginning of their connection.
I can't give too many spoilers, but seriously, they are a duo that subverts all expectations. Although Zack is a cold serial killer and blah blah blah, Rachel can be more cursed and scarier than him. It's really funny that she spends the entire anime begging him to kill her, and his reaction every time is `Wtf is wrong with you`. And yes, Zack may be an adult, but Ray can be more rational than him and is very good at understanding things quickly. She is the one who always finds a way for them to escape the traps of the other killers in the building.
He spends the entire anime asking her to smile, because then he would be more excited about killing her, but every time she tries to smile, he laughs at her and says that her smile is lifeless (and it really is, my poor girl).
At one point in the anime she says that he is her god. It's serious. She even hugs a knife he gave to her very intimately.
He compares her to a doll a few times in the anime. It's so weird and cute <3
They're not canon, but I would argue that the romantic subtext is there. Anyway, they are weird, traumatized people who end up getting very attached to each other."
