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some of the discussion about Cars 3 are ickyyy

recently got into cars 3 discussion on YouTube and some of it somehow involved blaming feminist and I think Jews(juice box emoji was used to imply this I guess?) because the MC has to pass down the torch to a woman??

I hate that Fandoms of media targeted at boys are hijacked by right wingers screaming in comments or own videos about hating legacy characters cause "woke"

Anyways the inevitable cars 4 shout be about the past and future actually. I want to see Lighting's win and fight against Cruz and Storm even if he didn't win.

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In an unhinged episode of his show, Charlie Kirk calls Tim Walz a "Marxist" and tells his audience to withhold their kids college tuition unless they vote for Trump.

Right-wing media has really been struggling to figure out their stance on Kamala Harris' new VP pick Tim Walz and who can blame them at this point? Their sides pick for VP, J.D. "Childless cat ladies" Vance, hasn't exactly been working out all that well and the public opinion seems to be leaning rather left as of late.

That being said, Charlie Kirk in particular seemed to struggle with how to handle Tim Walz. I'll offer up a bit of my thoughts on why towards the end but lets hear what Charlie has to say. Spoiler alert: it's Obama's birth certificate levels of nonsense.

08:06, Charlie Kirk: "There's a lot of backstory here about how Kamala Harris came to her selection of Governor Walz. You see, Kamala Harris was going to chose Josh Shapiro. All of the Democrat machinery was heading towards Josh Shapiro, the betting odds had an 80% chance that Josh Shapiro's gonna be the nominee, he cancelled events in the Hamptons, he was telling his closest friends that he was going to be the vice-president selection, it looked as if that no one could disagree."

You can see what's going on here. If Charlie had some actual information that he could use to smear Tim Walz with he absolutely would have ran with it at the beginning of the show. Unfortunately, Charlie seems to have settled on "this pick was unexpected, must have been some kind of shadowy conspiracy!".

Tim Walz was pretty much instantly embraced by progressive voters and Democrats alike. There is a very united positive view of Walz and there isn't really much dirt on the guy, unlike J.D. Vance who has been a flaming disaster of a pick for the Trump Administration. So instead of explaining why this pick is bad news or why we should be concerned about governor Walz it's just "he's a commie, they snubbed Shapiro because they're antisemites!".

09:20, Charlie Kirk: "There was an advertisement that was dropped by 'mistake' (his air quotes, not mine) by the Philadelphia mayor where they announced the Josh Shapiro decision pre-emptively because everything was almost a signed, sealed, and delivered deal. Now, mind you the media has done almost no coverage of this because they are carrying the water of Kamala Harris, they don't want to try to do the inside story of how Kamala Harris didn't want to have a Jewish person on her ticket."

As we've seen in the past, a lot of the more mainstream right-wing media like Charlie Kirk expect nothing but unflinching praise of Israel lest you get labelled an antisemite. A lot of the more fringe stuff like Candace Owens goes in the opposite direction and cloaks their antisemitism in faux-criticism of Israel that really acts more like a Trojan Horse to try and trick disaffected progressives that support Palestinian rights into thinking that we're on the same side. I am a supporter of Palestinian rights and I also reject antisemites like Candace Owens, Stew Peters, and Nick Fuentes. They are all far-right assholes who deserve to be called out at any available opportunity.

No, Kamala Harris didn't drop Josh Shapiro because he was Jewish and pretty much everybody who resides in reality agrees with that. The right has been trying to lay that line of attack before the nomination was even announced. In an interview, J.D. Vance stated that if the Democrats didn't pick Josh Shapiro it would be out of antisemitism in their own caucus. This has became a well established talking point and needs to be called out as BS.

As a matter of fact, Tim Walz has already received support from Pro-Israel groups and politicians and Walz has expressed support for Israel multiple times in the past. If they snubbed Shapiro for his support of Israel, why tap Walz? Walz has mellowed out a bit in recent years and is expressing a bit more sympathy towards the Pro-Palestinian cause, something which we as progressives should encourage, however he's still way more Pro-Israel than people like Charlie Kirk would have you believe. I also don't think that this is a place that Charlie wants to go since out of the 36 Jewish people in Congress, 34 are members of the Democratic Party.

If Charlie Kirk is so concerned about antisemitism you'd think he'd have something to say about Donald Trump's recent interview with Sid Rosenburg where he agreed with the host when he said that Doug Emhoff is "a crappy jew" and attacked Jewish voters who are planning to vote for Kamala Harris. How about Donald Trump's recent interview with antisemitic streamer and Nick Fuentes associate Adin Ross? You would think that Charlie Kirk, a guy who's absolutely not an antisemite as long as you ignore all those comments about Jewish people pushing "Anti-white hatred" and "Jewish dollars funding cultural Marxism" that he makes on his show, would have something to say about that antisemitism since he's oh so concerned about the Democratic Party. It's almost as if Charlie Kirk doesn't really care about antisemitism.

As for this story about the ad in Philly, it's a big load of nothing. This is about a video posted on Twitter by Philadelphia mayor Cherelle Parker that endorsed Josh Shapiro for VP that some people interpreted as an accidental reveal of Harris' running mate. It was just a video that was supposed to endorse Shapiro if he was tapped for VP. I'm sure that most politicians do this so that if a person from their city or state who's a contender for president or vice president gets the nomination they can show their support online.

This isn't proof that the Democrats enacted a shadowy plan to oust Shapiro and that the script was set beforehand, it's just an endorsement video that was made so that if Shapiro did get tapped the Mayor of Philadelphia would have something to post after the fact. It's not that deep.

09:59, Charlie Kirk: "It became as if a very certain fact that Josh Shapiro's gonna be the VP and the Democrat base lost their mind. The Democrat base took to Twitter, they took to social networks, and said 'we are not gonna put up with a Jewish American who is Pro-Israel to be on the ticket'. The Jew hatred and the Antisemitism in the Democrat Party unleashed like a volcano."

Yes, one of the criticisms that progressives have of Shapiro is that he is extremely Pro-Israel but criticism of the government of Israel's war crimes in Gaza is not antisemitic just like how criticizing the Vatican for covering up sexual abuse in the church isn't bigoted towards Catholics. It's simply holding a government/organization accountable for its actions.

Shapiro has other baggage though. For example, the National Woman's Defense League issued a statement before the nomination urging Harris to drop Shapiro as a contender. This is because of the way he handled a sexual harassment complaint against one of his aides Michael A Vereb. The state agreed to pay $295,000 last September to settle the complaint but the damage was already done. Tim Walz also has more experience as a governor.

But again, this shows that Tim Walz doesn't really have much for these losers to run with. This is just weak dumb attacks on the fact that he was nominated in the first place with no talk about where Walz stands on the issues. If you were someone who watches Charlie Kirk the only takeaway you'd have is "Well, nominating him was antisemitic and also MARXISM!".

11:25, Charlie Kirk: "Obama always liked Walz because Walz is a party loyalist. Walz is someone that will do the bidding of whatever the party tells him."

Charlie Kirk blames everything on Obama. Tim Walz is the nominee? OBAMA! Joe Biden decided not to run for re-election? OBAMA! The coffee shop burnt his breakfast bagel? OBAMA!

12:08, Charlie Kirk: "Now, there are some negatives with Shapiro. Shapiro would have caused the DNC to be bedlam because the Democrat Party can't stand Jews."

That's why the Democrats constantly pal around with Nazi's like Nick Fuentes while the Republicans have 34 Jewish members of Congress....oh wait, it's the other way around. My mistake, Charlie is just full of shit again.

12:26, Charlie Kirk: "More than anything else, reporting shows that Kamala Harris did not trust Josh Shapiro because he was too ambitious. He wanted it too much and she went with the safe pick."

Alright so Tim Walz was the safe pick, got it. Here's Charlie literally two seconds later creating just a *slight* contradiction to what he just said in the quote above.

12:39, Charlie Kirk: "Now on paper you would think that a midwestern governor like Tim Walz, he's like a folksy midwesterner. Loyal party guy, served as a member of Congress, a former teacher, governor of Minnesota, he's the safe pick. He's the safe pick if you want to now be described as the most liberal ticket in American history."

Woah! Wait....wasn't Tim Walz the safe pick just a couple seconds ago? So, let me get this straight because this is starting to get a bit confusing; Tim Walz is a loyal Democrat who will do whatever Obama tells him but he's also a secret communist and he's the safe pick but he also isn't. Gotcha, now that my necks been broken from the whiplash I have a directional understanding of Charlie's position.

13:28, Charlie Kirk: "This idea of Democrat base leakage, I think they blinked far too much and they said 'Well, Walz is gonna be able to consolidate the ticket because he's a party loyalist. He's a Soviet'. It's effectively like choosing Bernie Sanders and that's not an exaggeration."

Ah yes, famed mainstream Democratic Party loyalist Bernie Sanders.

The funny thing that I've been noticing about right-wing media's coverage of Tim Walz is that their criticisms keep making me like this guy more and more.

So blah, blah, blah, Tim Walz is loyal to the party but is also a Soviet and a communist, this makes a lot of sense to Charlie and literally only Charlie. Charlie cuts to the ad break and comes back with this absolutely galaxy brained take.

25:15, Charlie Kirk: "So, Tim Walz is the vice-presidential selection for Kamala Harris. I want you to think back to your high school days, I want you to think of the most liberal, obnoxious, social studies teacher. The one that would tell you things that have no applicability to reality, someone who's never had to run a business or had to shower before work or after work, someone that lives in the clouds and constant abstractions, someone that would always tell you that communism hasn't been totally tried and socialism is just about being a neighbor to one another, that is Tim Walz."

"Someone who is paid by oil billionaires to lie into a microphone all day and say dumb crap that doesn't really make any sense."

Seriously, by Charlie's own metric he's a complete failure who should never be taken seriously by anybody ever. Just switch "socialism" with "failed right-wing ideas" and that's Charlie to a T! He's never done hard blue-collar work and literally lives on a multi-million dollar country club in Arizona! Charlie Kirk looks like someone who'd be afraid of changing a tire because he might break a nail!

26:28, Charlie Kirk: "So, who is Tim Walz? Well, it's time we make sure America knows who you are. Tim Walz helped ignite the George Floyd riots, the worst the country had seen in decades."

Charlie Kirk, huge supporter of January 6th, is now mad at riots that weren't really riots. In terms of crime, it's been down in every major category in Minneapolis since 2023. Oopsie.

27:37, Charlie Kirk: "Tim Walz has the most radical abortion laws in the country. Zero limits. Did you know every year five or six babies are born alive and then murdered legally under the laws that he supports?"

Absolutely zero citation for this claim outside of Charlie Kirks extremely vivid imagination. Killing a baby that was born alive after an abortion is legally homicide, for example an abortion doctor named Kermit Gosnell was found guilty in Pennsylvania for killing three babies that were born alive in his abortion clinic. Absolutely nobody is legalizing "post-birth abortion", late term abortions are extremely rare, and the publics opinion is widely pro-choice.

Charlie does another ad break, comes back, plays a long speech from J.D. Vance, and proceeds says the exact same things he said in the last segment. Really gotta drill those talking points into the heads of his audience without giving them a break to think about whether they make any sense or not.

41:11, Charlie Kirk: "So, Tim Walz also signed into law giving drivers licenses to illegals regardless of their immigration status. He will enshrine Biden's invasion, he will make it permanent."

Charlie then plays a clip of Tim Walz signing this bill followed by him receiving massive amounts of applause from the people around him. Hmmm...almost as if bills like this are actually pretty popular and Charlie is just a dick invoking the white nationalist great replacement theory because he doesn't have anything else to run with.

This bill makes sense. Undocumented immigrants are human beings too and many of them have jobs to travel to and kids to send to school meaning that many of them will be driving either way. It's clearly safer to have them driving with a license than without one. When New Mexico passed similar legislation the rate of uninsured drivers dropped by 24%. Charlie than plays another clip from J.D. Vance and then whinges about everyone calling J.D. Vance weird.

45:57, Charlie Kirk: "And just so we're clear, the weird one is that creepy person Tim Walz. Tim Walz gives you very creepy vibes. He's the one that mandated tampons to be in boys bathrooms at the age of ten, true story."

Spending this much time thinking about middle school bathrooms is weird Charlie.

So, this tampon thing is the right-wing medias big attack on Tim Walz and it's a truly bizarre one. As governor of Minnesota, Walz signed a bill that requires schools to stock menstrual products in all girls and boys bathrooms with no charge to students. I don't understand how these guys think that this is a bad thing. "Oh no, he's making life easier for kids going through a difficult and confusing time in their lives. The horror".

These are the people that are supposed to be all about helping children, the GOP cares about the children they tell you (mostly when they're trying to advocate making life harder for trans kids and LGBTQ people). Yet when it comes to things like this and Tim Walz' policy around school lunches they clutch their pearls in horror and shock. It's almost as if they don't really care about kids at all.

If you guys are wondering why there are pretty pronounced time skips in this post, outside of the extremely long ad breaks for the radio here's the stuff that I'm skipping. You truly don't understand the degree of how repetitive an episode of the Charlie Kirk Show is. People are not meant to listen to this for the full two to three hours.

46:36, Charlie Kirk: "The reason why Tim Walz was selected, he was not the first pick. He was the radical kind of I guess not (sic). Is because the Democrat Party hates Jews. Van Jones admits that Kamala picking Walz was her caving to some of the darker parts of the party, as appeasing the anti-Jewish bigots that have gotten marbled into the party, Van Jones knows and he's saying the quiet part out loud. If you are a Jew in America just remember this, Democrats hate you."

What is Van Jones supposed to be admitting here exactly? Van Jones is a pundit, he doesn't know what the inner workings of the Democratic Party look like and is just speculating. What he's saying is just as dumb and weird as what Charlie's saying. Again, it makes zero sense to say that the Democrats "hate Jewish people" if you look at the basic facts about the party.

Charlie does an ad and then comes back and plays that Van Jones clip. He then interviews a guy named John Gay and it's pretty boring and uninformative. We have one last quote, here's Charlie after the interview telling families in his audience to extort their kids into voting for Trump.

01:26:24, Charlie Kirk: "If you do not get 100% turnout from your own house you're doing it wrong. Let me be very clear, guys. If you do not get one hundred percent turnout from your own house, you're doing it wrong. If you are a parent that has 18 or 19-year-old kids, you gotta get them out to vote. And by the way, if you are paying your 18, 19, or 20-year-old kid's tuition and they go vote for Kamala Harris, you should tell them you guys could pay for your own college. You're gonna go vote for Kamala Harris and our house here is working our tail off and we're going into debt to help you go through college, you guys can pay for your own college."

What an absolute POS. He's basically saying that parents should use financial abuse to force their children to vote the way that he wants them to. Charlie Kirk's a real cool guy, if this is the way he treats his own kids than I hope he has some nursing homes in mind for the future.

However, I also take a strange amount of comfort from this. Yeah, it's gross as hell and if anybody in his audience does this it would be extremely abusive behavior but it also shows how desperate Charlie is. He knows that the youth of America are extremely progressive and fed up with his parties BS, he knows that student debt relief plays well with younger voters, and he's scared. So while this is a totally disgusting thing to advocate for, you've also got to love how nervous this goon is.

Conclusion:

None of these guys know what to do with Tim Walz and it's so blatantly obvious when you watch shows like Charlie Kirk. It's just "The Democrats are antisemitic because they didn't pick Shapiro, Barack Hussein Obama, and Tim Walz is a Marxist".

Charlie Kirk is a guy who is only capable of communicating in talking points. He's really good at memorizing things and then repeating them so many times that they get bludgeoned in as gospel. That's why his show is so freaking repetitive, it's a feature not a bug. But even for Charlie the talking points were weak in this one. It's obvious that he was prepared to direct his BS at Shapiro and doesn't really know what to do with Walz. It'll certainly be interesting to see how these right-wing narratives evolve in the future but for now it's certainly fun to laugh at dumb dumbs squirming for content.

Cheers and I'll see you in the next one.

Original Video:

Charlie Kirk. “Kamala’s Commie Running Mate + the Iran Situation | Gay, Collin | 8.6.24.” Rumble, 6 Aug. 2024.

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Gardner, David. “J.D. Vance Says “Antisemitism” behind Tim Walz Pick as Harris Running Mate.” The Daily Beast, The Daily Beast, 6 Aug. 2024.

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Kilgore, Ed. “The Dumbest Attack on Walz Pick: Democrats Are Antisemites.” Intelligencer, Intelligencer, 6 Aug. 2024.

Alfonseca, Kiara. “Trump’s Comments on Jewish Democrats, Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff Spark Criticism.” ABC News, ABC News, Aug. 2024.

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