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If y'all didn't already know Dramacool has shut down all their sites!
EMERGENCY
Dramacool and subsidiaries are closing!! Where will I watch dramas now?!?!? This is genuinely sad, I hope that something else pops-up. I don't want to be left hanging, hoping for dramas I find interesting to be licensed
Ugh. It's true...THANKS WE HATE IT.
I will say that Kissasian was working for me the other night so it's possible that it we can survive on that if it is not related? Hopefully someone else will pop up behind them!
Also the biggest loss for me is asianwiki. I use it multiple times a day!
Hugs everyone xoxo
Anyone know where USA drama fans can watch S Line?
BL Streaming - Which Service is Worth Your Money?
Iâm bored and I have a little extra time this morning so itâs time for ABL to play with the spreadsheet of doom.Â
Occasionally I get the question:Â
If I were to subscribe to only one platform for BL which should I pick?Â
This post is dated May 2023.Â
First things first. I am going to be (somewhat) objective about this and not judge on quality of content. Because if KinnPorsche is all you love in life, obvs you need iQIYI, but if you are a HIStory franchise stan, than itâs all about Viki. Those are your life choices, Iâm just here to play numbers games, okay?Â
Secondly, some shows air on multiple platforms, particularly Viki & Gaga, but sometimes itâs Gaga & YouTube, occasionally itâs even iQIYI + others. This has only started happening in the last few years. Bed Friend was on 3 different platforms (GaGa, iQIYI, YT) - even though it was originally announced for Viki! I honestly donât know how to track this, so I tend to log the spreadsheet with my preferred watching platform for that language, this will throw the numbers off for those platforms.Â
Since I join everything my platform preference choice is based on: Â
the quality of the subs/captions Â
the quality of the user experience Â
My subs experience tends to be:Â
YT = best for Thai
Viki = best for Korean and sometimes Japanese, okay for Thai
Gaga = best for Chinese and sometimes Japanese but very weak Thai subs
My user interface preference is:Â
YT, Viki, Gaga in that order then everyone else with iQIYI at the bottom. This is because I watch on mobile devices.Â
ASplay, WeTV, former Line, Amarin TV, Netflix and the other smaller suppliers (and apps) will all be grouped together for this assessment. Since they have so few offerings, by default I would not recommend subbing those platforms unless you are a hard stan of all BL with disposable income.Â
Super bad BLs that I watched back in the day on grey sites or YT (pre 2020 crack down) because there were no other options and I am a completest are still listed as grey. I would never suggest anyone watch these shows anyway, so I donât care if they have now shown up on legitimate sites. If they are somewhere, itâs likely Gaga. Which means Gagaâs percentage of the market share is probably UNDER reported by my numbers.Â
Movies and cinema-only releases that never got international distribution fall into the âgreyâ category. If I got it off an indie subber, since that too is technically illegal, it falls into the grey category as well.Â
Final note: This is from a USA based IP, I donât use a VPN, so platforms assessments are from that perspective.Â
Spring 2023, current state of the spreadsheet. AKAÂ
Our BL Data SetÂ
Total # of BLs = 564
# of BLs ongoing (so finished runtime is best guess) = 18Â
Just Answer the Damn QuestionÂ
Round Number of Actual BLs - % of market share
YouTube = 218 - 38.6%
Gaga = 148 - 26.2%Â
Viki = 77 - 13.7%Â
Grey = 53 - 9.4%Â
BLs Iâve never been able to find on any platform (including grey): 36 - 6.4%Â
iQIYI = 14 - 2.5%Â
Other platforms = 12 - 2.2%Â
Margin of error: +- 1% (look Iâm just not driven to be that accurate here)
Subscription Platforms Breakdown - % of market share
Eliminating YouTube, Grey, and missing BLs. Viki is included because I do not know which of theirs are behind the paywall and which are not.Â
Total subscribe-only BLs: 257Â
Gaga = 59%
Viki = 30%
iQIYI = 6%
Sml sites/apps = 5%
(rounded)Â
Okay but how about actual runtime?Â
Gaga = 360 hrs - 44%Â
Viki = 311 hrs - 38%Â
iQIYI = 98 hrs - 12%Â
Sml sites = 50 hrs - 6%
Anyway you cut it... on pure BL standards...
GAGAOOLALA WINSÂ
Other consideration? In most places Gaga is ALSO the cheapest per month option.Â
Final Thoughts
YouTube (Americaâs Alphabet)Â
YT has the most pieces of content and longest overall runtime because of all the Thai stuff. ALSO bootlegs show up there, especially the early Chinese and Japanese stuff. They will often get taken down and you have to hunt for it again. YT takedowns come in waves, every 6 months or so.
However, GMMTV, some Star Hunter, some Studio Wabi Sabi, all the Vietnamese & Pinoy stuff (until now), and a few choice bits of Strongberry are YT content.
YTâs app is the best UX of a poor set (for me), but the web based YT at Premium level doesnât work with Firefox. I use YT for work A LOT, so the fee for Premium ($13.99) and lack of ads + downloads (travel) is worth it for me, but I think it probubly isnât if youâre on a budget.Â
GaGaOOLaLa (Taiwanâs Portico Media)Â
Of the pay to play platforms, GaGa dominates with the most BLs by all metrics. If youâre intersted in darker BL, GL and other queer content, very high heat, the history of the genre, or Japanese stuff - most of that is on GaGa. Also all of Strongberry and some of the newer queerer series (like My Ride). Â
At $6.99 a month itâs ALSO one of the cheapest options.Â
Gaga is based out of Taiwan, the only Asian country with marriage equality (as of 2022) AND it specializes in exclusively queer content so they need our support. If you can afford them, you should support them. GaGa is the only platform that will always have more BL, guaranteed (so long as Taiwan is autonomous). Ironically, you can follow their YT channel for previews and teasers to their latest series, short content, and acquisitions.Â
Their app isnât great, but their web-based interface is fine. That said: thereâs no categories (way to organize), and the way they roll out new episodes is unintuitive. Their mobile app ALWAYS pauses not mater what you actually want it to do and the lack of the quick skip ahead is frustrating.Â
Viki (Japanâs Rakutan)
Viki specializes in longer series, mostly Thai, Taiwanese, and a few of the Chinese bromances. It also now has a lot of KBLs. But in general only more recent stuff (2018 is as far back as they go).
At $4.99-$11.99 depending, itâs low to average cost. Iâm not sure which one (if any) you actually need for BL. Most of my favorite new shows tend to air on Viki, and I like Rakutan as a parent company, so I donât mind supporting them.Â
They happen to have 5 of my top ten BLs, which is A LOT (since I hand out 10/10 so rarely). So for me they host the objective best BL content.Â
They have the second best app (after YT, itâs kinda a combo of YT + Netflix) but the lack of a speed-up option is frustrating for many. Also the desktop version is super buggy. But they DO have categories you can name and control, which I love.
Other PlatformsÂ
iQIYI - is Mainland China based (hello Baidu, you ugly fucker), so the platform getting/pimping BL for an international audience only is⊠how do I put this?⊠oh yeah: shitty. I will often rename it Icky, for this reason. It clearly wants to break the market, but⊠do we want it in the market at all? How long will they host BLs? When will they be shut down and censored? I would say itâs only worth it if you really also like Chinese dramas. And even so, Viki also has A LOT of those. Unfortunately for us, Wabi Sabi seems to have cut a distribution deal with Icky. And, of course, there is the KinnPorsche situation (so ironic that Icky hosts the highest heat). The interface is a nightmare. They have the WORST app, even when you pay, it serves ads, some of which alpha crash the platform.Â
Netflix - here in the states it almost never has new BL content. Sometimes some old stuff. They tested the waters with SOTUS and Love Sick. I have a feeling they arenât particularly intersted in this market. So if BL is what you watch, donât bother. At last check they still had Gameboys and Your Name Engraved Herein and Wish You.Â
WeTV - acts like LineTV used to, has Manner of Death and We Best Love and a few of the more obscure Thai pulps. But probably not worth it for anyone but a completest.Â
Grey - Unknown or No DistributorÂ
Indie subbers: thereâs some BLs that you can watch by supporting indie subbers who supply private links to their personal versions. This is not legal, but it is a slightly nicer way to get stuff you canât find anywhere else. Iâve done this for some Thai and Japanese stuff.
I find the leads for these sources here on Tumblr. If someone is giffing and talking about a show and I donât know how they are getting hold of it, I simply ask.
DramaCool (USA) & Dailymotion (France) & Bilibili (China) and others - AKA the grey space. You SHOULD feel guilty using these sites, youâre stealing, but itâs where many of us go for BL we canât find anywhere else (in defiance of what few morals we have left). These are BLs that originally sold to very odd platforms or never got international distribution. Unfortunately, some of my favorites are in this category like Great Men Academy or Seven Days. Itâs a nightmare. The ads are terrible and the virus/bug risk is high. They get taken down all the time. Or the leads are faked. I use an old computer to access and suggest you take all necessary precautions yourself.
PâABL SOAP BOX TIME
Look I work tangential to the entertainment industry, so if you thought I wasnât going to learn you a little on this subject, you got another think coming.Â
HEREâS THE THING:Â
You watch a show on one of the grey platforms, ESPECIALLY if it actually has distribution on Gaga or Viki - you better review that shit. You spread the word and advocate for that content here, on MDL, on social media, with fan art, I donât care. You steal it, you find a way to pay back in your time and/or creativity.Â
I get it if youâre poor, but donât be a goddamn scab. Find a way to reward content creators with non-monetary support. If you had the time to watch the thing you stole, you have time to pay it forward in some substantial way. Do this even if you didnât steal it but got it for free. Do this if you read fanfic. Do this with articles, blogs, books. Do this with podcasts.Â
It isnât hard to be a decent human and support creators. Donât you dare just TAKE. If youâre that kind of person stop reading this blog immediately. I donât want anything to do with you and you donât deserve my words or my spreadsheet of Doom.Â
/rantÂ
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