#enfp analysis

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13 reasons why & Jungian Psychology & MBTI

Hannah personality type seems to be ENFP, not INFP. 

Her goal is to reach her idea Ne and the auxiliary function Fi is supporting the Ne vision making it coming from heart and creating an idea of romantic, true love. Whether the person is ENTP or ENFP can be distinguished by (among others) exactly how idea is created, what supports that. Is it heart and feelings (values etc.) or thinking and interest (wow that is cool, let’s go and test it out). Another way would be to say that Ti makes Ne dominant user being interested in something, and Fi makes him fascinated about something / placing hopes into something / having expectations from something as beliefs that that Ne vision will come true. ENTP user will not be disappointed with reality when trying to implement idea. ENTP goes and finds the way to make Ne true against difficulties. ENFP fights demanding, sharing feelings and leaves with heart broken if nobody cares. It can be love. ENTP will try to fix relationship, and will realize easier it is time to go if fixing isn’t working. ENFP will understand others motives, will see that a person does not want to meet his expectations, will see the nature of the person. This is why it is harder (as talking about feelings and love) to move on and forget, throwing experience into Si - possibly  becoming fixating over it as it is inferior (which we can see in the show, Hannah brought up things and recorded ‘everything’ on tapes. why not EVERYTHING? Well, that is because of Fi. She gave HER truth Te coming from Fi (Te 3d, after Fi)). ENFP will see what is behind actions of another person not in logical sense, but what is coming from heart. If that is something that is against Ne + Fi imagination (Fi makes reality skewed), ENFP looses spark, gets more and more broken.

In Hannah’s case we definitely see Fi associated with Ne. Why not INFP though? INFP’s goal would be to create Ne from Fi that is already there (although often not well understood). Hannah was looking for Fi  with her Ne, was using Fi to get Ne. INFP will use Ne as mean of expression for their Fi. They don’t produce Fi reality. They produce Ne (expression) for Fi. The problem that INFPs often have is that they can’t define what form of expression they want, so they shift between different forms, different Ne. Fi stays the same, it is a hero. Hannah’s Ne was the same. She wanted love and connection. She knew what she wanted. She just didn’t know how to get that. So she was allocating her Fi in different ways: different people, poetry. 

Parent function is what can be unstable. ENFP will be changing how he feels about things, all to get Ne met (love in Hannah’s case). ENTP will be changing how he thinks about things to solve problem in a creative way. INFP will be coming up with different forms of expression Ne to make Fi satisfied. INFJ will be shifting between people (? this I don’t understand) to get their own personal long term vision met (e.g. understand better with Ti to help them Fe somehow in long run Ni, or to just create long term community with them). ISTJ will be working to feel safe, have stability and gain skills Si, INTJ will be working to grow and develop himself in long term etc etc. That would lead to inspirational 4th function making him fulfilled. Or shadow functions making him (ideally) wiser.

About Hannah it seems clear now. Si use when carefully recalling painful memories wishing to not be forgot and wanting others to know her life story Fi + Si. INFP would like to achieve something big Te giving others rules / solutions on something that was important and came from various Ne knowledge (Robert Greene perfect example). 

I don’t quite get XNXJs. Do they want being famous / widely known  because of Te or Fe? It is like doing a lot so that eventually someone would notice them / make room for them?

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Should you trust MBTI compatibility?

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE reading analyses of how different relationships between the types work out.

But when I see things like this:

I die on the inside.

SORRY GUYS TIME TO RANT

In order to explain myself a bit, lets say we take two ENTPs. One is outgoing, confident and slightly crazy. The other is judgemental, independent and uncaring of other people’s opinions about them. They’re two completely different types of people, how come they both type as ENTPs?

Well, the answer to that is that contrary to popular belief, MBTI isn’t actually about your personality, it’s about how your mind functions.

The reason why these two ENTPs with such similar minds are so different is because they’re two different people. They’ve grown up in different environments, had different experiences, had different people they look up to, the list goes on.

A friend one ENTP may call a blessing, another ENTP may call toxic and a chore to be around. You CAN’T just highlight a blue box saying that INFJs and INTJs are the ideal match for ALL ENTPs because they’re not.

MBTI is great because it’s a decently reliable method that allows YOU to categorise who YOU get along with. However, to look at a table like the one shown above, done by some random individual who hasn’t even experienced the majority of those relationships, and judge whether or not you should pursue a relationship based on the coloured box they associated with that type is frankly ridiculous.

By all means, use the MBTI typing system to your advantage. Type your friends and try to find patterns in those who you get along with. For example, I’ve found that although I have a lot of NF friends, being around them too much drains me. It’s the NTs who I tend to like more genuinely. However, for many other ENTPs it’s the complete opposite. And that’s fine!

Hell, I have an ENFP friend who’s in a relationship with an ISFJ and even though on this compatibility chart there was a red square saying that that relationship wouldn’t work, those two individuals HAVE made it work. And honestly, it’s a brilliant relationship.

So to sum up, any type can get along with any type and any type can full out despise any type. Some people have done amazingly accurate analyses of how relationships between types play out and they can give you incredible insight making you scream YES THAT’S US!

However, charts like these do not. They just make you doubt yourself if the relationship you’re in does not have a blue box associated with it. So yeah, just do yourself a favour and don't bother with these compatibility charts because they help no one.

Cheers.

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Do you have any insight on the differences between an ENTP and ENFP? My friend says they're both and I get the cognitive functions are the same in different orders but do you know any other differences? Thanks!

No problem! Basically, on the outside they’re really similar: loveable, imaginative and huge procrastinators. There are quite a few differences though.

One way to tell who’s who is that in an argument, ENFPs are going to get frustrated with the insensitive and rude one. ENTPs on the other hand will get irritated by emotional and illogical one.

Also, ENFPs tend to be a lot more heart driven and sincere people. They have the capacity to trust and love people close to them so much that it’s crazy. ENTPs look almost completely heartless in comparison but they don’t mind. The idea of being so vulnerable kind of freaks them out tbh.