#enneagram 5

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f2u enneagram subtype stamps. !! ART USED IS BY MATRIX (so3sx8lover on tiktok) !!

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[vvnill4]

Enneagram design by matrix on tiktok

[felix4v]

I’ve recently been diving deep into Naranjo’s enneagrams, so I decided to draw my own tritype. The designs for SP9 and SO4 were inspired by @MAT[R]IX ✮ THE sx8 glazer's style on TikTok.

[gigijenga]

𝔼𝕏ℙ𝕃𝔸𝕀ℕ𝕀ℕ𝔾 ℍ𝕆𝕎 𝕋𝔼 + ℕ𝕀 𝕎𝕆ℝ𝕂𝕊 𝔸ℕ𝔻 𝔻𝔼𝔹𝕌ℕ𝕂𝕀ℕ𝔾 𝕄𝕀𝕊ℂ𝕆ℕℂ𝔼ℙ𝕋𝕀𝕆ℕ𝕊 (𝕔𝕠𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕣𝕠𝕞 𝕒𝕟 𝔼ℕ𝕋𝕁)

xNTJs are often stereotyped as evil CEO billionaire masterminds, so these types are often bombarded with horrible misconceptions. First, I’ll explain how the two functions work together, then I will debunk misconceptions. I will also compare INTJ and ENTJ. This analysis will be predominatly focused on Te-Ni / Ni-Te, NOT Te-Ne or Ni-Ti, which are both ESTJ and INFJ in loop but ENTJ and INTJ in dichtomy.

*ೃ༄Extroverted Thinking*ೃ༄

Te: Extroverted thinking is the most pragmatic function of all the cognitive functions. It is only concerned with what is impersonal, objective, and truthful. It is focused on the systems, laws, and structure in the environment. It makes decisions based on how logical something is based on if it’s truthful compared to external logic. While Ti users aim to understand their logical interpretation of something, Te users are only concerned with what is universally true. Te is like deductive reasoning. It draws a conclusion based on external rules you know to be true. 

How it manifests: Te users are concerned with results because of their natural instinct to prioritize the logical connections and effects of decisions. If Ne is focused on connections between abstract ideas, Te is focused on how logical ideas connect to each other. They have less focus on internal consistency/reasoning within one idea. Te users are often blunt, strategic, organized (mentally), and good at managing. Furthermore, Te has an externalized opinion of how things should or should not be done and see everything else as bad / wrong if they don't fit into the external standards. This belief oftentimes creates rigidity in terms of morality.

Behaviors that can exist due to dominant Te:

impatience due to inefficiency. Becomes frustated when cirucmstances are not clear or nebulous

Large focus on organization. Likes to sort ideas and concepts into boxes

Pragmatic, impartial, refuses to act on impulses

Oriented towards intellectuality. Judgemental and strict with morality. Only acts when it is rational

Frequent emotional suppression, oftentimes lack of emotional introspection, represses internal emotions and desires. Oftentimes subconsciously hostile towards those subjects

Interactive with the external world. Likes to negotiate with other people to carry out plans / operations. Has a tendency to want to "fix" systems to make it more efficent, logical, effective, and right

Can be emotionally unexpressive, unperturbed, even harsh at times

Moralistic / strict in what is right or wrong

*ೃ༄Introverted Intuition*ೃ༄

Ni: Introverted intuition is focused on abstractionism, symbolism, main ideas, and trends. Rather than seeking possibilities, newness, and change, Ni is convergent, seeking one core insight or pattern than endless options. Ni users are visionaries: they are focused on one possibility and building upon it. While Ne spreads ideas outwards, Ni takes information in, distilling many inputs into a singular, synthesized insight.

How it manifests: Ni users are not very spontaneous. They are focused on predicting how the future could play out. They ask themselves: “Where is this going?” “What’s the purpose of this?” etc. They often step back from the noise of the present to analyze what is happening. Ni users often get “aha” moments where they realize the overall theme and connection of an idea, but oftentimes they glimpse over smaller details. Sometimes, they “just know” without linear reasoning and step-by-step logical build-up. Ni users can often be poetic and enjoy symbolism and metaphors in media and literature.

Behaviors that can exist due to dominant Ni:

Lacks touch with reality. Lives in their head and is not attached to the present

Finds self-expression difficult. Vague with ideas. Has a liking for subjectivity, symbolism, and interpretations of life

Insightful and reflective, may be mistaken for Fi

Sticks to a singular vision of the future. Be certain of such insights and has a hard time not commiting, unlike Ne

not focused on objectivity, but rather its own personal subjective view of life, which is not related to the concreate reality

Like what I've said before, their arguments often lack reasoning due to the vagueness in their perception of the world. Intuition can be hard to back up with practical evidence

*ೃ༄How Te + Ni work together*ೃ༄

I call the Te + Ni combination “the visionary” or "the truth finder" because not only are these types constantly building upon an idea, but they are also consistently focused on the overall structure and main idea of everything. xNTJs are concerned with putting everything into boxes based on the overall framework and ensuring it all connects logically. The Te + Ni combo is a truth seeker, always focused on finding the meaning behind everything. Te takes Ni’s insight and translates it into concrete plans, systems, and structures that can be applied in the external world. The two functions create a mindset that is always refining and building upon ideas for long-term impact and efficiency.

*ೃ༄Misconceptions*ೃ༄

I blame 16personalities, my nemesis, for most of the misconceptions

Te is controlling and bossy -> False. That is a BEHAVIORAL trait. Te = / = bossy, it is simply a cognitive function that focuses on external logic. Controlling the environment is not Te, that is more related to socionics Se. However, Te is inherently focused on making systems and operations more rational and effective, which can manifest into a "controlling" behavior, but none of these behavior suggests that the person is physically aggressive, controlling / possessive, etc.

Te lacks empathy -> low Fi does not mean someone lacks morals or emotions. None of the cognitive functions stand for feeling emotions. Fi is simply a function that evaluates and interprets internal feelings and is focused on subjective interpretations/meaning. A Te user usually pushes their feelings aside to seek the impersonal truth, but that does not mean they are heartless.

ENTJs are explosive and impatient -> unless you’re dealing with an unhealthy ENTJs, typically, Te doms tend to put emotional needs aside to act impartial. But it is true than ENTJs may be unaware of how their emotions build up and may become explosive under stress.

Emotional manipulative character, are they Te or Fe dominant? -> if someone emotionally manipulates but chooses not to dive into other people’s feelings usually, then they are probably a Te user. Te users would rather focus on logical manipulation as they lack concern for the emotional atmosphere, but speaking from a socionics perspective, dominant Te users may be capable of adapting to the emotional atmosphere, but this effort is lowkey and of short duration. If someone is focused on constantly adjusting to other people’s moods and emotions, then they are an Fe user. An evil and controlling character is not always a Te user.

Controlling, action-oriented character, ESTP or ENTJ?: Generally speaking, many stern, bossy, power-hungry ESTPs are mistyped as ENTJs (cough cough Sukuna), but it is never the other way around. Remember, ENTJs still have auxiliary Ni, so they would rather step away from the environment and evaluate before jumping into action (unless they are in Te-Se loop). ENTJs are judgers, meaning they need to analyze where the situation is heading before acting. ESTPs focus on living in the moment. If this archetype does not value abstractionism, structure, logical connections, or hidden meanings, then chances are they are not a true ENTJ.

Ni is about having hunches and being able to predict the future -> that’s a superpower, silly. I mean I wish I had that ability, but no, Ni is not about literally predicting the future. Ni will try to predict how situations will enroll.

Ni is detail-oriented and good at planning things out -> while aux Te can help INTJs be exceptional at planning, Ni is not step-by-step itself. It usually jumps to conclusions due to the prioritization of main ideas and overall structure. Intuition functions are not rational, and they focus on ideas that are not pragmatic or concrete.

Quiet, mysterious, stoic character, INTJ or ISTP?: a lot of ISTPs get mistyped as INTJs (Wednesday Addams). ISTPs analyze and see themselves as being in the moment, while also focusing on their logical perception of the whole situation. INTJs see themselves as being apart from what is going on around them and analyze the situation from afar, looking for main ideas and structure. 

INTJs are cold and emotionless -> this, again, is a behavioral trait. There’s probably no need for an explanation

xNTJs can’t be impulsive -> this statement is half true. xNTJs would rather not jump into action without thinking, but they tend to focus on main ideas over details, which means they may be careless when evaluating situations.

xNTJs are unaccommodating -> not always, being a nice person has nothing to do with cognitive functions. I’m an ENTJ who scored SCOAI in big five soo.

*ೃ༄Differences between ENTJ and INTJ*ೃ༄

ENTJs value taking action efficiently and quickly, INTJs value fully analyzing the situation before acting

ENTJs are more impersonal and logic-oriented, while INTJs tend to me a bit more attuned to their feelings and focus more on symbolism and abstractionism (Tertiary Fi)

ENTJs are objective and good at explaining their ideas to be more efficienct. INTJs struggle with explaining their ideas in a concise and coherent way as they value intuition over logic

ENTJs push against the idea of making decisions based on their personal needs, emotions, or subjective interpretation (Te against Fi), while INTJs push against the idea of making decisions in the moment or simply evaluating the situation as it is (Ni against Se. Ni favors hidden meanings and intuition, while Se values realism). 

ENTJs focus on the environment around them more, while INTJs tend to live in their head

INTJs are better at evaluating their own emotions and personal views on situations, while Fi being inferior puts ENTJs in a more vulnerable position when it comes to dealing with such matters. Hence, ENTJs either don’t care about evaluating their own feelings, or they feel insecure when it comes to controlling their emotions (Te suppresses Fi)

Similarly, ENTJs are better at acting in the moment when needed, while INTJs are not as quick to adjust to external systems/environments. Se being inferior puts INTJs in a more vulnerable position when it comes to dealing with fast-moving situations. INTJs either don’t care about living in the present/being present in the moment, or they feel insecure when it comes to not being able to take decisive action when needed (Ni suppresses Se)

ENTJs may aspire to be more connected with their emotions, while INTJs may aspire to be more focused on the present (Fi suggestive and Se suggestive in socionics)

ENTJs become more focused on themselves, emotionally explosive, biased (in terms of their subjective views), etc. when they are stressed, while INTJs feel the need to act/focus in the moment, may become more impulsive and reckless 

Most common ENTJ enneagram = Social 1, sexual 1. Last one I would associate ENTJ with is social 3. Wings include 1w2, 3w4.

Most common INTJ enneagram = all enneagram 5 subtypes (primarily social 5)

Most common ENTJ trifixes = 137, 358 135, 136

Most common INTJ trifixes = 135, 145, 458, 358

Rarer combos (ranked from most to least common): ENTJ Sp3, ENTJ Sp1, ENTJ Sx6, INTJ So6 (I haven't looked too much into So6 but I assume it can exist), INTJ Sp3 / e1, ENTJ social 7

Anyways hope this helps :)

[needserotonindealer]

According to Naranjo's teachings, every subtype of the Enneagram has "irrational ideas": these are the unspoken creeds that shape the neurosis of each type. Following/acting on these ideas intensifies your neurosis, making it worse and preventing a type from moving to a healthier place.

All of this is extracted from Naranjo's books on each type.

E1.

From: Psicología de los Eneatipos, Eneatipo 1, Ira.

E2.

From: Orgullo: Caprichosos, histriónicos y conquistadores.

E3.

From: Vanidad: Psicología de los eneatipos.

E4.

From: Envidia (Eneatipo 4): Abnegados, odiadores y melancólicos.

E5.

From: Avaricia: Mezquinos, arrogantes e indiferentes.

E6.

From: Cobardes, desafiantes y fanáticos: Las formas del Miedo.

E7

From: Golosos, tramposos, soñadores y charlatanes: Psicología de los eneatipos.

E8 - not out yet.

E9.

From: Acedia: Psychospiritual laziness.

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DOCTOR MICHAEL “ROBBY” ROBINAVITCH: ENNEANALYSIS

i identify robby as being a type five, wing six. i disagree with interpretations of six being his core type— sixes are deferent and responsive to direction from authority. robby resists authority, as in his mind, his authority reigns supreme.

claudio naranjo describes type fives as exhibiting avarice and pathological detachment; avarice refers to greed, but this doesn’t mean gluttony. this combination of greed and detachment expresses a sense of scarcity and reservation as a response to the fear of one’s essential self being lost or permanently depleted.

the type five is highly vulnerable and even hypersensitive, reacting to their fear of imminent loss by attempting to remain apathetic or distant from anything that could leech off of their attention.

i think people interpret robby as being a core six rather than a core five because he’s in such a senior leadership role. however, i think so much of his internal torment exists because of these conflicting elements of his character. he’s extremely reticent to develop legitimate closeness with anyone for fear that he could irrevocably lose the scarcity of his being that he must protect— conversely, he cannot remain isolated completely or else he loses all sense of purpose.

robby has no reference point for himself without his work. i imagine him as being a satellite with an irregular orbital path around a star. his path dips closer to the star, then retreats. he swings between extremes of desolation and crushing pressure; either exerted to the point of explosion, or devoid of any external friction to the point of implosion.

now, to defend my position with assessment criteria for type five:

lastly, some interpretations of how a type five restricts interaction with the world.

robby was my first choice for analysis because his struggles are so well understood as the main character. i’ve also identified by mom as being type five so i already have a familiarity with that pattern of behavior. i hope this was comprehensive and shed some light on what makes robby tick. he is my favorite character by miles and very precious to me.

please let me know your thoughts, and which character i should assess next! abbott, whitaker, and santos are on the lisdt already.

thank you for reading ^D^

[meowinyourface]

being sx4 in the typology community is so exhausting you get dogged on left and right while your neighbor e5 gets all the glaze

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Enneahuman art dump because I haven't been posting any slop💔🥹✌️