#fandom problem 12276

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Fandom Problem #12,276:

I get we're all frustrated by hack dubs, but some cases of altering the dub AREN'T actually a big deal. Take the complaints about the Disney dub of Kiki's Delivery Service for example

"OH NOOOO! THEY REPLACED THE COFFEE WITH HOT COCO!" Ok, does that affect the plot? No? Move on. Coco is the superior drink, anyway.

"Gigi is voiced by a man in the dub!" he's stated to be male in the original Japanese version of the film. They just had a lady voice him to sound "cute." When I pointed this out, I got sexists claiming women's voices fit cats better and cats should always be girls...what?!

"They changed the opening song!" What, did you expect them to translate the song about a girl finding out her new groom already cheated on her, and she's going to tell his whole family, even though it had nothing to do with the story? Even most fans of the film are baffled that Ghibli chose that song.

There are dubs that actually BUTCHER the source material and censor major themes, and you're busy nit picking a dub that only changed minor details.

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Localisation changes bother me because if I'm watching a movie from a different country, culture, etc, I don't want them to change the media to try to make elements of that country or culture more like mine.

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"People can complain about unnecessary changes" (I don't remember the exact context in the movie) for those who don't know, with Dubbing the lines usually have to be rewritten in order to match up with mouth movements and maintain the same context. "Hot coco" probably kept the same amount of syllables, and obviously isn't insanely different. I don't understand why that specifically is a complaint?

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All of this! Another nice thing about keeping the og stuff is it presents a nice opportunity to educate kids who watch it. They can see how not homogenous the world is. Like, "wow, kids drink coffee in x place?". It helps open their minds. Tiny thing, but I think a big part of the reason I didn't wind up closed-minded growing up was because I had so many chances to see things in unexpected ways.

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"(I don’t remember the exact context in the movie) for those who don’t know, with Dubbing the lines usually have to be rewritten in order to match up with mouth movements and maintain the same context. “Hot coco” probably kept the same amount of syllables, and obviously isn’t insanely different. I don’t understand why that specifically is a complaint?"

Nothing about being able to easily make the syllables, mouth movements, etc match up means the change was any less unnecessary though. That's the point.

Tbh, I'm in the same boat as the other person who said they want the media unchanged re localization. I don't want them to try to make it more "palatable" to me. Keep the subtle cultural differences in. None of these, yes, unnecessary changes. If it offends sensibilities or whatever, tough shit. It's just coffee. I've seen far, far more devious stuff in kid's cartoons and nobody had a bird when that media was released.

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Honestly- if a child is young enough, whether the drink is coffee or hot cocoa will go over their heads in the sense they won't internalize the deeper meaning, anyways. I played with so many food items made out of lego that I saw in movies, and I didn't grow up addicted to them, thinking those were normal foods, etc. So I say leave the coffee in.

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