“In this video, I’m more referring to BBC Sherlock and the use of queerbaiting as a marketing ploy, as opposed to them not making Sherlock and John a couple” . . . “While I am not as such angry that they didn’t make them a couple, what I do take issue with is using young LBGT fans”
Commenters:
“You are NOT a fan of Sherlock. You are a fan of the possibility of Johnlock”
“I don’t understand why making people think there would be an LGBTQ romance is queerbaiting.”
“As a hetero girl, I don’t feel heterobaited”
“Did someone lead you to believe that they were supposed to be in love with each other?”
“Maybe you should consider maybe they aren’s supposed to be gay because I’ve never been gay go figure also your hair is horrible”
We presume that the Johnlocker who made the tweet wasn’t really going to die, but the fact that Mark Gatiss basically told them to go ahead and die - and the amount of Sherlollians who liked and reblogged the post - was fucking disturbing.
Sherlollians - the same people who proclaim to be all about love - laughed along with a man who told us to die, and then posted pictures of graves directed at us, made fun of and belittled our hurt, and created an anonymous hate blog to collectively ridicule depressed and suicidal people.
And then they turn around and call Johnlockers toxic bullies.
FOR WHAT???
Is it because a few Johnlockers sent you anon hate? Oh that’s interesting because you guys have done that too.
Is it because of a bit of improper tagging? You’ve done that too.
Is it because of post hijacking? Ship hating? Bullying? Real people shipping? Hating on cast/crew? *checks notes* Yep, you guessed it. There’s not a single thing you can point to to claim that we’re a “toxic” fandom that YOUR side of the fandom has never done.
Johnlockers have NEVER behaved like this when you guys get thrown under the bus. Remember when Moftiss confirmed the ily wasn’t genuine by saying Molly got over it by shagging someone? Did we gloat about it? No, we just reiterated how Molly was again thrown aside and mistreated for the sake of a male character’s growth. Something you guys keep ignoring despite claiming to be all about female empowerment.
You are the immature toxic bullies of the Sherlock fandom. You are the reason people are warned not to enter the Sherlock fandom. (Remember when you tried to “warn” the YOI fandom about us and they were like “actually we haven’t had a single problem from any of the newcomers”)
We’ll listen to your complaints about Johnlockers being a “toxic fandom” when you guys stop exhibiting the exact behavior you always accuse us of. Projection sure is a powerful thing, isn’t it.
If Sherlollians really were all about “love,” they’d react more like this Johnlocker here when people inappropriately come into their tags saying rude things. We’re not saying it’s okay at all to post mean things in another ship’s tag. We’re saying that sometimes, people do things by mistake, or they don’t know any better, or they add a tag without any malicious intent behind it because they are genuinely unaware of fandom rules.
It happens. And sometimes, it happens on purpose, too. On both sides of the fandom.
But see how easy it is to just kindly but firmly remind the person to not do it again? We wish we could see more reactions like this from Sherlollians who claim to be the nicest most peaceful people in the fandom instead of only seeing them jump down people’s throats and wage a war against them whenever someone says something they disagree with - whether or not the person is staying in their lane (see our “post hijacking” tag). If the OP had been a johnlocker going in the sherlolly tag to say something like this, the BNFs would have thrown them to the wolves and left them to be torn to shreds because no matter how much they claim to be “about love,” they are the most vicious, hateful people in their fandom.
“But you guys don’t misspell your tags!”
We do it here for a reason. We don’t initiate hate. We don’t do it to get a rise out of anti-johnlockers. We collect receipts here and post the hypocrisy we’ve seen from other people. You don’t want to be called out? Don’t be an asshole. Calling someone out for their hatred is different than purposely tagging someone because you hate them. Maybe if anti-johnlockers weren’t so damn “anti” then this blog wouldn’t need to exist.
A sherlollian received this message from someone who is clearly not a johnlocker, based on the way they censor the ship name like all the antis do (as they should, if they are saying something hateful) and the way they totally misinterpret our meta and assume that we think the hug makes our ship canon, when really, no one thinks that. Any real johnlocker would know that and would never have said that.
Mouseymodesty though, of course, can’t pass up an opportunity to shit on johnlockers cause that’s basically her only hobby and she would do it for a living if she could. She reblogged the post and added this little piece:
Right. Because it’s totally not even possible for anyone in the fandom to send rude, hateful anons unless they are a johnlocker. Absolutely no one from any other ship has done this sort of thing before, ever.
When first reading this, both I and the receiver of this ask wondered if perhaps it was just a johnlocker being silly and sarcastic - because that’s just how out of line and totally random this message was. But then I thought nah, when johnlockers send sarcastic asks like that to each other it’s super obvious that it’s not real.
So here, have yet another example of the faultless, angelic sherlollians, who are supposedly only ever victims of fandom hate, coming unwarranted into a johnlocker’s inbox to force their views onto them. Something they claim they have never done and constantly criticize tjlcers for doing.
“TJLC is an angry cult of Johnlockers that go around bullying people” ---- LONG POST
Hmm...
So the majority of these were found either around the time of TFP’s airing or afterward:
Some of these screenshots were taken with the blogger’s reply because when you’re receiving anons like these then you have every right to fight back. A lot of these anons were no doubt from the same person, sending messages to a particular blog repeatedly. So we understand why some Johnlockers got fed up and told them to “shut the fuck up.”
PLEASE READ: One may look at these and ask, “Shouldn’t there be more? I thought you guys always stumble upon the motherload.” And you’re right. There ARE more. But rather than give in to gluttony and post EVERY SINGLE ANTI-TJLC RECEIPT that we find, we only gather a few from each blog and post them here. Our posts are long enough that when we make Wank Receipts, we understand that not everyone has the Time and/or Energy to slowly scroll down and read everything. Which means that some receipts would be overlooked. So sometimes we have to make cuts. Which stinks sometimes, because if we wanted to, WE’D ADD EVERY HATE RECEIPT INTO THE POST.
Our point is, we do this to show you that THEY EXIST. They’re out there. And there’s a lot of them.
The following may need an explanation for those who either forgot or who weren’t around during this time, but long story short, someone logged into Mark Gatiss’s Wikipedia page and ... well made a couple of changes. They were hardly cruel at all, and most fans found it amusing - 1) how to pronounce his name (”GAH-tiss”) and 2) adding “queerbaiter” to his list of occupations. They were changed back eventually (anyone can log into Wikipedia and edit anything) but luckily screenshots were taken:
Yeah, needless to say, there was an overreaction from the anti-TJLCers. We couldn’t do anything without an Anti breathing down our necks. Anyone who remotely talked about what happened was a suspect in their eyes.
Technically, we were terrible people for fooling around with Mark Gatiss’s Wikipedia page. It’s not like Mark and Steven ever fooled around with their fans for years and years. There’s a difference between making a small edit on how to pronounce someone’s last name, and making your fans believe that there was something going on between Sherlock and John but only to turn around and lie and say WE were the delusional ones.
Speaking as someone who’s been there from the beginning, TJLC is not to blame for the actions of some people in the past. We could run a whole separate blog on coming to the defense of TJLCers who were wronged. The Sherlock fandom is full of people who have made mistakes, just like every other fandom that exists today. Our theories never hurt anybody, only annoyed those who had problems with a few of us in the past. But to accuse TJLC of being bullies just because you had a beef with two or more people X years ago is a weak excuse. TJLC is not associated with any of those past actions. Like we said - we could run a whole separate blog on situations like this. But you can’t hate all TJLCers just because one or two persons ticked you off in the past.
99% of TJLCers are actually very nice people. We were just overly excited about a OTP we shipped, and we were hoping for representation, that’s all.
Yes,what happened during TFP was messy, but that was mainly due to Johnlockers trying to come to terms that their hopes were dashed and also having to deal with anons who were constantly kicking them while they were down. It was MESSY. But during that time, none of the TJLCers reverted to bullying, harassing or insulting anyone unless it was an Anti stirring up trouble. We defended ourselves, as any person would have the right to do so. Most TJLCers drifted away from the fandom, and those that stayed are sharing fanfiction and fan art and other matters with each other.
Meanwhile:
You had blogs like TJLCschadenfreude, sillytwatss, biiitheway, and TJLCguiltblog (to name a few) who’s sole purpose was to drag all Johnlockers. ALL. They’ve since then been either deactivated or ceased to post, but that’s kind of the case with Antis; always burning too hot with their hatred that they fizzle and die out and their blog gets left behind like a beaten up road sign that no one cares to look at anymore.
You’ve got people who are still actively hating on specific Johnlockers, whether those Johnlockers have left Tumblr or not. (For example, Sherlollians still hate Rebekah even though xe never did anything to them, other than make TJLC: Explained videos. Xe was one of the sweetest Johnlockers in the fandom, so why do people hate xer?)
People who are still addressing old complaints that have already been dealt with to death many times (because apparently beating a dead horse is popular these days) and saying that they have Dirt on us which is old news, because nowadays everyone has some Dirt on someone.
And people who are still saying that they wouldn’t inflict hate on anyone regardless of the circumstance ... and yet these are the exact same Antis that sent SO MUCH HATE to Johnlockers during TFP that we saw a lot of this:
Just to let you know - since we’re sure the Antis probably still read this while waiting for the Pizza Delivery Guy - if, for example, Adlockers were in OUR place and watched TFP hoping for their ship to become canon, only to be heartbroken, no Johnlocker would be shoveling hate into their ask boxes. Because that’s the lowest of the low.
You don’t call someone ugly and horrible and wish for them to be harassed someday.
You don’t call someone stupid and deaf.
You don’t tell someone that they don’t deserve to be represented.
You don’t tell someone that their presence makes you want to puke.
You don’t tell someone that they’re so low on the worth scale that they’re basically human garbage.
Keep in mind that while TJLCers are off writing fanfiction and contentedly going about their lives --- this kind of shit is still going on between Anti-Johnlockers.
TL;DR: Antis are cowards and they went around bullying TJLCers on anon when we didn’t do anything to deserve it.