#mizj0ely

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It’s just funny because Sherlock only called Molly in TEH when John refused to talk to him, and he even called her John during the case. Even though he said she’s “not being John” - he still never asked her on a case again after he and John made up. And even though Sherlollians called this a “date” - he never asked again even after her engagement ended. I guess that’s what Sherlock being “down to hook back up” looks like to them. 

It’s also funny cause this implies that they only weren’t together in S3 because Molly said no (due to her engagement), even though it was her was hoping he’d ask her out to dinner, and it was Sherlock who corrected her. I might be reading into things here, but it kiiiiinda seems like one of these people is far more invested in the relationship than the other...

They claim we pull shit out of thin air, that our mountains of evidence and analysis are “reaching.” - and yet they’re "UTTERLY CONVINCED” that this happened between Sherlock and Molly and they “had a thing” despite the fact that she was basically absent for most of S4. 

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Someone is salty methinks. 

AA herself comes out and says it doesn’t make any sense for Mary to have shot Sherlock, but they still try to justify the (lack of) reasoning behind it. 

She says killed. Not shot. Not wounded. Killed. Yet Miz still wants to ignore Sherlock’s heart stopping on the monitor, Mary chasing after him when he escapes the hospital, and Sherlock having to talk her down from shooting him a second time.

To each their own, but I never want to hear their arguments of “BuT mOfTiSs SaID!! BuT BeN sAiD!! bUt MaRtIn SaId!!!” if they can’t handle it when one of their own faves destroys one of their most firmly held opinions.

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“When Sherlock or John shoot/hurt someone they go “aww cute” but when Mary or Molly do what the guys did they go “evil woman!!”

Hi there anon, could you please provide one single receipt of us saying Sherlock and John hitting/shooting people is “cute?” While we’re waiting on that, you can entertain yourself with these receipts of your fandom cheering on unwarranted violence from Molly and Mary. 

“Taken at is most basic interpretation, Mary is a threat to their ship”

Lol as if you don’t hate John for that exact reason. 

“Understanding [why Mary shot Sherlock] is NOT condoning” 

Where is that energy when it comes to John beating Sherlock in the morgue? That was just as unnecessary and pointless as Mary shooting Sherlock, but you rush to defend, excuse, and forgive one and not the other. 

“She is clearly on a redemption arc that would be embraced were it, say, John who shot Sherlock. Can you imagine how they’d rush to defend his actions if the story had gone that way?”

Well, John did beat Sherlock up... and I don’t see Johnlockers rushing to defend him for that, so I fail to see how we’d defend him for doing something far more severe, such as shooting him. 

But if John had shot Sherlock, would you be as forgiving towards him as you were for Mary? I think the fuck not. 

“There is a definite double standard when it comes to male vs female characters”

Sorry, but where are these double standards? We hated it when Molly slapped Sherlock, when Mary shot him, AND when John beat him up.

And yes, we know Sherlock, John, and Mary all shot and killed people. But Mary shoots good guys to save herself and they shoot bad guys to save other people. Don’t ignore that fact and then act like we’re sexist when we say one is more excusable than the other. 

Go reread every single one of the above points if you want to see real double standards between male and female characters. Violence and murder are not okay just because it’s coming from a woman. This shouldn’t even have to be said. 

“I don’t see [the double standards] changing even if the show ends with an R-rated scene of John and Mary making love in their flat”

I love how every time people try to diss Johnlockers, it always somehow ties back to sex, even though we’re the ones supposedly obsessed with our faves fucking

I also love the implication these “double standards” would be challenged the most if we saw Mary having straight sex, as opposed to, oh idk, her just being a better person. It’s not “Even if Mary became a literal saint, they’d still hate her!” It’s “Even if Mary fucked a man, they’d still call her evil!” As if having sex with a man automatically makes a woman morally irreproachable and more likable and erases all her past wrongdoings.

The fact that you even made this comparison shows that this has nothing to do with respecting or uplifting women - it’s just to do with with shipping.

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Here you’ll see Sherlollians doing everything from wishing John would betray Sherlock, to headcanoning about Molly taking over his role in Sherlock’s life (talk about character erasure), to wishing other characters would be violent towards him, or wishing he would DIE.

These people have always hated John and felt threatened by him because Sherlock loves him more than anyone - and they know it. And in S4 they were thrilled to finally have an excuse for all that hatred. That’s why they literally can’t shut up about the morgue scene. For a group that claims to be all about love and sunshine and positivity and turning lemons into lemonade, they sure can’t seem to shut the fuck up about a character they hate so much.

But then on the flip side, no one but them is allowed to touch Molly Hooper, even if what we have to say about her is in no way hateful at all. They get so personally offended when anyone other than them has an opinion about Molly. No, not a bad opinion necessarily - just an opinion. If we dislike her, we’re misogynists. If we are totally neutral towards her, we’re erasing/discarding her. If we pity her, we’re still misogynists. Heck, we’re not even allowed to like her because then it’s obviously “fake.” We get attacked for saying literally anything at all about her, even when it’s harmless. But LORD just IMAGINE if some of those above screenshots were things johnlockers said about Molly. BOY would sherlollians be foaming at the mouth and sharpening their pitchforks. We’d be called sexist assholes for calling her story boring, blatantly replacing her with a male character, calling her a traitor, and wanting her to be beaten up or literally DIE. But they can say whatever they want about John because #doublestandards and “Sherlollians are love uwu.”

Johnlockers never say that sort of crap about Molly. Yes, we will criticize her sometimes and talk about her poorly written arc because guess what? That’s not a fucking crime! But god, if we dare make a post about her that isn’t completely worshipful, we get assaulted with cries of “Keep your filthy hands off our girl!” “Stop the character hate!”

Stop the character hate? You’re really going to say that to us? 

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It’s amazing how some people can hold a grudge for so long when they CAN’T EVEN PROVE WHY TJLCERS ARE TOXIC. For the last several years, you can’t supply a shred of evidence why Johnlockers are worse than you and your friends, except -- “Ew!! They’re so mean because they don’t like Molly!!! And they just want to see John and Sherlock buttfuck!! Ew, John is gross and abusive, just like Jlockers!!! I tried being nice to me once but they just laughed and said, ‘bye’ and honestly I was threatened, THEY’RE SO RUDE!! SHERLOLLIANS ARE LOVE BUT I HATE JLOCKERS!!!”

You can’t come up with anything to say about us that’s damning, all you can do is talk trash; just because we ship Sherlock with someone else doesn’t make us bullies.

We get it, we know you’re talking about us. Even Mizjoely didn’t join in your little dig there and you felt more inclined to talk dirt when you probably weren’t even around when “shit started flying” in the first place. Why can’t you be like your little buddies and get the fuck over whatever WE apparently did to your BNFs for the “past several years?”

You don’t have to mention US in every conversation you have with your Sherlolly friends. Are you that  o b s e s s e d with us?

Remember thegameisnow app? Yeah, your ship doesn’t have any more power than the Titanic did. In fact, you definitely sank faster. Heh.

Uh, kay. Thanks. Bye.

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What’s that? You're ashamed of any fan art involving John Watson?

You can’t stand

any fan art

of

Sherlock involving

John Watson?

Look at some

of these

amazing

fan arts

I’m sure these lovely people

would love to

hear that from you.

The truth is, it’s not like you find sexy fan art of Sherlock and John everywhere - but you don’t have to look for it either. It’s not in the Sherlolly tags, not in the Adlock tags, etc. So if you’re roaming the Sherlock tag for example and you come across fan art of John and Sherlock “rubbing” against each other, and that makes you uncomfortable, you’re the one who’s seeing it as an issue.

We don’t go around complaining of fan art of Sherlock and Molly because

95% of it is in the Sherlolly tag.

you don’t complain about people’s art, even if you don’t ship it. NEVER. That’s their baby.

And before you start responding with, “But there’s not that much Sherlolly fan art to begin with, with Johnlock being everywhere!! Blegh!!” - listen:

That’s not really our problem. People draw what they want to draw.

Your problem isn’t that you don’t want to see fan art of Sherlock and John. Your problem is you don’t want to see fan art of Sherlock WITH John.

Whining about fan art of a gay ship when we all know you’d rather Molly be in John’s place is something you should think twice about doing in the future. You know. Since uh... you all have been caught being homophobic many times in the past.

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”I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED IF MY KIDS EVER PULLED THAT SORT OF CRAP.”

CAN

WE

SAY

ISN’T

IT

IRONIC???

..... And case you forgot --------

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(Source)

Okay, you guys need to just breathe for a minute.

Ready? All right then.

We understand this post is a year old, but this needs to be addressed. These allegations are serious and it’s going to be taken seriously, but at the same time, none of you provided links to said behavior. These days just about anyone can exclaim they were harassed on the internet, but there’s an unlikely chance of it being bought if there’s no evidence.

First of all - you have supplied so many examples of being bullied and hated on. A very alarming number of examples, to be correct. You all agree that in one way or another, a TJLCer has abused you in a specific way. If this abuse is real, we’re concerned why you never brought up the individual’s name. Why? to protect them? From what?  If this person is indeed being abusive, they deserve to be known. And before you start coming up with sassy comebacks, know this: it’s also easy to point fingers at a specific person, but if you’re going to spout accusations like these, you better do your research and prepare to whip out your proof of when it happened, how, what, why, etc. Screen shots are your best friend in these cases, and we see none. Regardless of which ever ship or fandom or come from, abuse is not a light manner to be treated in such, and judging by the lack of damning material you aren’t providing it just shows that you’re 1) simply lazy and 2) would rather just close your eyes and point your blame at a random object.

This is just a list of people saying they were bullied. By whom? No one knows. When? No one knows. How did it happen? No one knows.

Second, there has been an immediate dislike of TJLC since the moment it was created, and steadily grew:

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/85173074611/i-have-to-askwhat-was-the-purpose-of-this-blog

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/85158441256/bottom-line-youre-just-some-of-the-most

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/85160151711/i-really-dont-understand-why-you-have-to-be-rude

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/85133792466/making-tjlc-about-topjohn-now-thats-a-massive

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/85173971951/because-i-thought-this-blog-was-going-to-actually

http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/72859155793/i-fully-understand-if-you-dont-want-to-address

http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/72856811207/tjlc-stands-for-the-johnlock-conspiracy

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/113626596076/note-to-anti-superwholocks-and-tjlr-people-and

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/106634773406/no-one-is-forcing-anybody-to-believe-in-tjlc

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/106697790781/why-do-you-keep-asking-people-to-purposefully

http://t-j-l-r.tumblr.com/post/97490362651/bennysnips

http://tjlc.tumblr.com/post/106525474411/it-just-makes-me-sad-that-so-many-people-hate-us

http://sherlockfandomguide.tumblr.com/post/102288796545/can-you-do-a-definition-on-tjlr-im-having-a-hard (this link we left for last shows that someone was so ANNOYED about TJLC that they went an created a tag that was AGAINST it and wrote out a FAQ. Wow. So mature.)

Look at those links. That wasn’t so difficult.

We note that this is not to throw back these accusations you made, but they’re to expose how quick Anti-Johnlockers are to judge TJLC. It’s clear from the get go that we have been hated. For what reason? We didn’t create TJLC to shit on other ships. It was for our own enjoyment. The only people who ever took anything bad from TJLC or made it sound as if we were trouble makers from the beginning were -- ? Anti-Johnlockers. Why were/are you so upset with us?

There seems to be a lot more of Antis talking about us than the other way around, and giving out harsh claims that we are among the rudest and worst shippers around - and then when you take a look around at TJLCers, they hardly mention the Antis, unless they send us an ask, message, etc. With this in mind, if TJLCers rarely engage with haters - seeing how we’ve been “so busy enjoying our little conspiracy” - why would Antis ever believe that we spend more of our time OBSESSING about them, when they’re the ones doing it?

Why has there been so much gnashing of teeth and talk of TJLC from Anti-Johnlockers, and .001% of hate from us? Why is there so little proof that we have been the so-called bullies?

You guys in the screenshots above and anyone else who has proclaimed to have been abused by ANYONE should really be careful about shooting out accusations without proof (because we do take shit like that seriously and it’s insulting to actual victims of harassment should these accusations be fake), and please do ask yourselves: who’s been more obsessed about who does what in their free time?