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while I 1000% support crackfic writers who write about Ilya spilling about their sex life, in reality I think that shit would be locked DOWN.
like, I think the only details the internet would get would be Ilya liking posts about Shane being a god in bed, into freak sex, that things get real wild after big hockey victories and that the rivalry was foreplay, etc
only stuff that’s funny and wild, but ultimately contains exactly zero details of their actual sex.
like yes, for all the sexy possessive reasons, and all of the privacy and ‘I share the internet with my in-laws’ reasons’, but also because of how Shane would be treated if it was actually known that he was a bottom.
It’s not super explored in canon, but cmon… Shane is a half Japanese gay man in hockey. Those are both two very loaded identities for an incredibly bigoted sport, and they come with a lot of really vicious intersectional ammo.
Shane would already hear so much about how Asian men are submissive and all of the other bullshit I refuse to write out, imagine how much more brutal it would be if there was actual confirmation that the stereotypes are on some level, accurate?
in that same way that homophobia would have hit so much harder for Shane after he was outed and knew that the other player MEANT it, all of that would be even more hurtful and degrading.
And so yeah, I don’t think either Ilya or Shane would EVER reference what positions or anything they prefer in bed anywhere near the public, because the public fucking sucks :((
Shane not being able to mask after the draft is so important to me. It’s peak autistic ‘this didnt go exactly how I planned it in my mind so I don’t know how to act’. And this isn’t just a small change of plans to Shane, oh no. This is the day and the moment he’s been dreaming about since he was eight years old. And he gets beaten out by this rude Russian guy. It’s too much all at once. Shane is a fierce competitor and not only did he lose, he lost hard. He came in number two. He was supposed to be alone at the top. He’s “still in shock”. He doesn’t know what to do.
Can we talk about this part again? The whole scene is gold, but I keep focusing on the first 40 seconds. Ilya is not usually shown to be an anxious person, but he does have little tells that he repeats throughout the show. And in this scene, he does all of them. His anxiety in the beginning of this scene is palpable. At first you see him nervously scanning the bar, knowing at any second he could see Shane. He's doing his usual self-soothing behaviors like fidgeting with his thumbs (like during the interview with the all star game) and messing with his hair/ear (like on the couch with Shane).
Then the moment happens. He spots Shane. And, fuck, he's coming right for him. He takes a big deep breath, says a quiet little "okay" to get himself ready, and takes a giant chug of his beer that finishes the bottle. As soon as Shane sits down, he starts doing little head bobs to hype himself up for whatever conversation they're about to have. While he's thinking of something to say, his thumbs are rubbing the hell out of the empty beer bottle. Trying to rub that thing back into sand. After Shane orders the same beer that Ilya is having, he does a little nose sniff. The same nose sniff/nose tug move he makes throughout the series to show that he's totally definitely nonchalant about something that's happening with Shane. Ilya asks him about his ginger ale. He can't help it. The last time they spent together is probably all he can think about. So Shane skipping his typical order and getting whatever Ilya has is throwing him off. But then. Shane makes a joke. A silly little 'Shane' joke that temporarily pulls Ilya out of his spiral and gets him to crack a smile. Very similar to the situation in episode 6 when Shane is spiraling and Ilya makes his "maybe he didn't even notice" joke.
After that the scene starts to shift and Ilya becomes visibly less and less anxious and more emboldened to take the lead of the conversation and openly ogle Shane. And Shane immediately ogles Ilya in return. They're BACK
The reason why the criticism of the NHL and its many flaws falls so flat in the game changers series is because Rachel Reid refuses to examine the role that race plays in your experience of hockey and hockey culture in Canada, which is honestly very in line with the Canadian, “well, we barely have racism up here!” even though people of color, especially Black and South Asian immigrants and First Nations people of color will tell you otherwise.
You cannot criticize and examine hockey culture without the foundational understanding of the role that whiteness plays in the toxicity of hockey culture.
When she said that Shane doesn’t carry grief or trauma it becomes glaringly obvious that she is missing one of the core problems of the toxicity of hockey culture in Canada. Whiteness is what enables this toxic and abusive behavior to continue. Yes, the NFL, NBA, and MLB all have them problems and issues and I’m not denying that, but those leagues all have players of color who would never be allowed to get away with what NHL players do.
I mean even when it comes to the rules of their sport, you think a 6’8, 300lb Black linebacker is getting a 5 minute penalty for shoving a ref or for getting in their face and yelling at them? You think a bunch of Black athletes could be living in billet homes in small towns with a reputation of violence against little white teenage girls and it would still be a national problem? Whiteness and racism is core and central to the problems in hockey. Look at Gavin McKenna, an indigenous man, being charged with a felony by State College police because they couldn’t wait to make an example out of him.
“Shane doesn’t carry grief or trauma.”
I’ve been reading hockey player memoirs and one of them is about an “average” player in the NHL. He was by no means a super star or prodigy, just very good at his sport and he talked about how, as a 6 or 7 year old child, he was already facing bullying by adults for how good he was at hockey. Parents of other players resented him so much for scoring they would tell their kids to target him and would scream obscenities. He was even flipped off as a child and humiliated by coaches because he was good at hockey. And this was a white man.
Add in the fact that Shane is Asian Canadian and hockey is a matter of national identity and lm willing to bet that the first time Shane remembers being called a slur, it was while he was playing hockey, and it was by an adult. Because if they already hate that a child is better at hockey than their child to the point of harassing them, how much worse does it get when the parent realizes that it is Asian child who is better at hockey than their kid? Shane would’ve been punished at every level of hockey starting at 5 years old for being good at the sport and being Asian because he would make white teammates, coaches, and fans feels “threatened” because for so long hockey has been centered around their whiteness.
Not only would Shane have been called names, parents would’ve been calling for their kids to “take him out” to take cheap shots and probably screaming slurs at Shane. And I’m willing to bet the coaches and refs did nothing unless the Hollanders threatened to sue, and not Yuna, David had to go down there and flash some legal might around and also the fact that he works for the treasury board and probably knows a thing or two about hockey Canada.
But Shane would’ve been punished for being not white and being good at hockey and it would’ve been severe because whiteness is the cornerstone of this sport.
Laila Edwards has talked about experiencing misogynoir as a hockey player and has, probably in the best interest of her PWHL draft and desire not to be harassed by racist trolls, not been as outspoken on vocal as she could be.
Look at Jason Robertson’s exclusion from the Olympics roster and the handwringing of hockey podcasters who “don’t get why the coaches made the decisions they made.” It’s because the foundation of this sport and its success is whiteness and white people feel threatened when people of color succeed so they have to knock them down a peg even to their own detriment because that’s how much they hate seeing people of color succeed.
Whiteness is the foundation of this sport and racism is so imbedded that parents will scream at their 10 year old to hit a six year old just because they’re brown and good at hockey
Like Hockey Canada is struggling to recruit and retain players of colors even as Canada gets more diverse because of the racism.
Even the big book about toxic hockey culture in Canada brushes over the racism even though whiteness and the excuses we make for white men ar front and center as to why hockey culture in Canada got to be the way it is.
You cannot address the issues in hockey Canada unless you also address the fact that the reason why it was allowed to get this bad is because of a whiteness and racism.
i love how quietly both svetlana and rose figured ilya and shane out, and how softly they both let them know they knew.
svetlana knows ilya is comfortable with his sexuality, but she also knows how he feels about love and his capabilities when it comes to it, she knows what it means to him and also for him. so she pokes delicately, but in a language ilya is used to, letting him know she knows about jane while always mentioning men in tandem - sasha says hi - and then that doesn't work so she starts discussing shane in general and subtly highlighting that ilya's reaction is weird, it's not how he reacts to other players. you know he's good and you know he's handsome has the connotation of you would be able to admit it if there wasn't something more here, and if it wasn't serious you'd tell me
and THEN - it's very clear that ilya imagined his life with svetlana, when he pictured a future and some form of love that would be bearable and safe, it's clear that she is that soft place to land for him and it's clear that he could be in love with her, he just isn't. and when his grief and self loathing is at his highest he looks at her and says "i don't deserve you" and she doesn't only reassure him but she just so kindly says:
i hope jane knows how lucky He is
saying, not only do you deserve me and not only will i always be here, but you deserve the love you won't allow yourself, you deserve to have what you want, in the only way ilya can hear it in that moment
and it means so much that ilya reaches for shane
AND THEN ROSE - she's known shane for a very short period of time and when she figures out he might be gay and very uncomfortable with it she approaches it in the best possible way, in a way that makes him feel so accepted and normal that he can't even deny it and we watch in real time as her acceptance makes him accept it more and more.
and the big moment there honestly isn't her saying it's okay it's:
are there gay hockey players? i mean obviously there are but, are there any that are out?
and we see that register with shane, the thought that other people may be going through what he's gone through just never occurred to him and as soon as it does he opens up just a touch and rose just asks him all the right questions so softly "have you ever been with a man before?" "have you ever told anyone that" "was it different?"
and as soon as shane can conceptualize that this isn't some terrible thing that's just happening to him, it's actually a very normal, common experience - 80% of my boyfriends left me for men, not everyone in hollywood is out - he melts and shifts into something that is more himself and it's so beautiful because there's so much unspoken self acceptance like a dam broke - and as soon as he has that self acceptance he immediately starts joking about it
and then he leaves the conversation and starts showing ilya he loves him and talking about it relentlessly because he knows how to do this now and he wants ilya, even when ilya can't fully tell him he feels the same, he's now accepted that it isn't just men it's ilya and he no longer see's a reason to deprive himself of his instinct to care for him
their interactions with both women really are so incredibly beautiful and in their different ways they both are just continually telling them "you don't just deserve fine, you deserve the love you want, the love that is different"
and it's so moving i get choked up every time i think about it because it's such a big deal - especially when both ilya and shane seemed to be bracing themselves for svetlana and rose to be the most upset by this but instead they just embrace them
Ilya Rozanov’s Impact As Representation of Queer Russians
alright here we go
this isn’t really structured as an essay, but is a detailed analysis
first of all, i need to establish that a lot of my points come directly from personal experience — i am a mixed race kid born in kazakhstan, half-russian and half-kazakh, raised primarily in russia. i am also queer myself, although i was raised as a woman (i am now agender). this analysis will heavily focus on cultural elements, because they are crucial for understanding the depth of ilya’s character and why he acts the way he does.
i was quite apprehensive about ilya initially — western film loves to portray russian people as a caricature and use them for tasteless gags without really examining anything in depth (I’m looking at you stranger things, yes, you). i was concerned heated rivalry would remain surface-level about ilya’s background and portray him as a stereotypical, cold-hearted russian dude. i was also concerned about his accent being too caricatural, concerned about the potential dialogue in russian (as a linguist, russian dialogue in western film is infamously stiff and unnatural. looking at you again, stranger things), so you can imagine my surprise and delight when all of those concerns ended up being unfounded.
It's so interesting how the costume design resembles perfectly what is happening in this scene.
Ilya - the nonchalant, I don't give a fuck-guy, showed up to the press conference in a suit and tie, very formal, very approriate. And it unravels during this scene how uncomfortable he is, how much he struggles with the language barrier and even though he tries to play the part, he fails.
Shane on the other hand - the guy who folds his clothes before sex and is always very on guard and socially awkward - rolls up to this press conference without a tie and his shirt unbottoned, not a care in the world, he is in his element. He senses Ilya's discomfort right away and jumps to his aide because he does take control when he is comfortable, when he is sure of himself and we do continue to see this dynamic between them further on.