#hiccami

[quiet-art-kid]

Hiccazi but make it gay

so i'm not really a Hiccami/hiccazi shipper, but I saw one post about a fem hiccup x camicazi and idk that ship being wlw just hits different so here is my trans fem hiccup x camicazi fanart. Credit to @crispy-kitten-princess for the idea.

[azuriewillow005]

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Yo guys

I really like Hiccami so I shook this fic out of my daydreaming :D

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Hiccup Series - Cressida Cowell Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Camicazi/Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III Characters: Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III, Camicazi (How to Train Your Dragon), Stoick the Vast Additional Tags: Fluff, Trapped In A Closet, But they're not actually trapped don't worry, Kissing, Gentle Kissing, Just a lot of cute lovesick idiots kissing, This is just a one-shot of my brainrot about these two lol, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III is a Mess, Camicazi has beautiful bushy blonde hair, and i love her, She's so crazy and stuff, everyone knows they are in love except for them, Camicazi and Hiccup are my pookies, Canon Compliant, Two years after book 12

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Camicazi pulled away, face flushed. “Oh gods. This is improper.”

Her fingers danced on his collar, and Hiccup felt that warm touch through the fabric. He found his face feeling rather warm. How had this week's events led up to this?

...Actually, this was a preferred outcome, but hiding from your father in a broom closet because you're kissing a girl you really, really like is a pretty weird position to be in. Not that Hiccup wanted to argue about the outcome, of course...

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[oseytorvan]

A strange paradox: every time I try to give other couples with Hiccup a chance, I stumble upon...

"Astrid was always a little rude to me, but I let her do it, mainly because she scared me, and I didn't know how to confront her about it" Mericcup

"Hiccup, Elsa's best friend, is in love with Astrid, but when he finds out that Astrid is a monster, he starts falling in love with Elsa" Hiccelsa

"And also how Astrid reacted when he rejected the idea of just SPARING the dragon. He narrowly escaped death from the thoughtless throwing of the axe " Heatcup

"Astrid and Hiccup broke up two years ago. When Astrid turned sixteen, her body became more lush than it was before. In just eighteen years, Astrid has slept with a lot of men" Ruffcup

"Astrid has never been an overly sympathetic girl; she couldn't understand that Hiccup had to slow down for a few weeks after his injury—another thing that helped drive a wedge between them. She immediately began to tap him on the shoulder and drag him along as if nothing had happened. Camicazi knew. She knew because she had the good sense to follow Hiccup in his hour of weakness. In Viking society, you hid your pain, and those who showed it soon learned not to. It was a lesson that Hiccup refused to learn. Camicazi knew that Hiccup hated being beaten; that it brought back too many memories. Pulling the hair, scratching the back, biting the shoulder — yes. But no fists. Astrid didn't know how Hiccup liked to dominate—that if he was pushed away, it would be because he chose it. Astrid didn't know how Hiccup could move his tongue like a damn snake" Hiccami  

"Why don't you want to marry me?!" Astrid angrily shouts at him, threatening him with her big axe" Hiccup and OC

I am glad that there are more shippers in the fandom who respect Astrid and her relationship with Hiccup. But there are still a lot of similar stories. Many authors just cannot write fan fiction about their favorite couple without offending Hiccstrid. And that's the real problem. I am very sorry that for a long time I lacked the determination to raise this topic.

Please stop. Let's put an end to this

[avannak]

How would Alivia's relationship with Zephyr, Nuffink and Astrid be, if the existed in the same universe?

Yooooo, this is fun!

So, Alivia, for those who don’t know, is a Hiccami fanbaby. There’s some politics involved (particularly pertaining choosing the Sire of children for Bogs) and that Camicazi, the heir to the Bogs, found Hiccup “not bad for a boy” said a lot about who she wanted the Sire to be. These are a lot of my personal headcanons that keep tribes like the Meatheads and Bogs and other heirs like Cami and Thuggory an unspoken involvement with movie!Hiccup. I still happily believe that there’s a childhood history between them all that simply wasn’t touched upon in the movies.

Anyway! Yeah, maybe there’s some situation like Crossing the Line that happens between Hiccup and Astrid in that five-year gap between HTTYD1 and HTTYD2 that results in Alivia. Break up, exploration for both parties, reuiniting afterwards. Bada bing bada boom.

Astrid is, of course, aware of Aliva and that her existance will always tether Hiccup to Cami and the Bogs. Hiccup and Cami will always care for each other but there’s no intention at all to pursue a more concrete relationship beyond deep friendship and a shared child. It’s Astrid’s own knowledge of Bog Culture--more than her trust of Camicazi---that gives her a small peace of mind over the matter.

Still, that doesn’t stop her from being a bit cold towards Alivia, no matter what her rational mind tells her. Alivia is unbothered by this, and with monthly visits to her father ADORES her siblings. Astrid isn’t so petty as to poison her children against their half-sibling, so the relationship is healthy. Especially as Zeph and Fink, as Nordic princess and prince, as far more versed in neighboring cultures than their peers and understand their father’s relationship to the Bogs. In fact, they understand the honor in it.

So Alivia is about 5 years older than Zephyr and she’s SUPER EXCITED to have a SISTER. Like, her enthusiasm is so much that even Astrid is endeared to her. She insists to visit New Berk at least 3 times a month, even if it is a four day further sail (she gets twice a month for half the year). When Alivia is grown enough (i.e. 15) she is allowed to visit whenever she pleases... given the crew she has recently inherited is amenable to it. ;)

Alivia wants to teach Zephyr everything. Three years later, she gets a brother.

Nuffink... well she was disappointed that it was a boy. But, she supposed, he would be OK if he was from her father. 

Turns out... she grew to adore Nuffink. In fact, Zephyr turned out to have the quirkiness that Alivia could always get along with and shared the same humor and intelligence that she admired in her father. But Nuffink? Nuffink had that spice of crazy that she loved. He was the one she ended up taking on half-cocked adventures (avoiding the churlish eye of his mother). He was the one she ended up teaching to braid hair (because her sister cut all of hers off, but Nuffink? He was growing his for every style she yearned to try!). He was the one who she could introduce the tradition of smashing rocks against the head (as her grandfather would do... not her father, or even his wife). He was the one she would wing-man for in port-villages on neighboring islands, and whisper nay-or-yay on whomever his eye fell on.

Alivia adored Nuffink and wanted to cultivate every crazy inborn red-headed viking instinct their lineage wrought.

You know, now that I’ve spoken about this I am kinda all for it :D

[kingofthewilderwest]

I’m curious to know who you think book!Hiccup will have married. He and Camicazi seem to be just friends and she even makes it clear that he’s not her boyfriend, but I can’t think of anyone else Hiccup might have married. Do you think it’s a character Cressida is saving for another book/story that we don’t know yet?

One of my favorite things about the HTTYD books is that Hiccup, Fishlegs, and Camicazi are strictly platonic with one another. The series focuses on the power of friendship and family. That focus is powerful and means so much to me. 

Personally, I want Hiccup and Camicazi to stay as they are now. I much, much, much prefer them as friends. We need more stories where the main male protagonist and the main woman character don’t develop romance. We need more stories showing that close relationships between people of different genders doesn’t require heterosexual romance. And it’s a worn-out default trope that I... don’t like when I see it. Seriously, it’s SUCH a trope, and everyone ALWAYS expects that to happen... that I just don’t want it. 

That said, what I want and what I think will happen are two different things.

I’m suspicious Cowell will hook Hiccup and Cami up.

This isn’t to speak ill of Cowell! I’m just saying I’m suspicious she’ll hook them up!

At the very end of the last book, I feel like Cressida Cowell does make a suggestion Hiccup and Camicazi could develop something romantic in their future. I also suspect that Cressida Cowell isn’t telling us who Hiccup marries for a reason. She’s refused to answer that question when fans have asked her. That means I’m suspicious that if/when she returns to writing the HTTYD world, she’ll show us what’s in store for Hiccup’s future. It makes me feel like Cowell’s hiding information about a Hiccami hookup.

If I had my way with the story, I’d rather have Hiccup marry someone else, such as out of a political marriage, than get together with Cami. But. Even though I say I wouldn’t prefer it, I probably won’t dislike it if/when Cowell does it. Cowell has written many tropes I usually dislike with great effect and I’ve loved her stories' results. I just think that it’d be a better opportunity to not go with the trope this time.

[mrsnaildood]

I'm a huge sucker for platonic HicCami as King and Queen of the Wilderwest though I'm afraid his crown isn't gonna fit on her head any day soon

[incorrect-httyd-book-quotes-blog]

Camicazi: Alright, listen up you limpet-minded losers.

Camicazi: Not you, Hiccup. You’re an angel and we’re thrilled you’re here.

[kingofthewilderwest]

I know you're not big on HTTYD ships, but what are your opinions on Hiccami and Hiccstrid? P. S. I've yet to read the books and I'm trying to avoid spoilers!

Also perhaps relevant:

Comparing Astrid and Camicazi

Does Hiccup marry Camicazi? (involves commentary of the final books)

Thanks for letting me know you’re my anon friend who’s been watching spoilers for the books! Your P.S. makes it slightly harder to talk about Hiccami at all, to be honest, but I’ll respond without any spoiler references, discussion of the end of the book series, or talk of where Cowell may be headed with a potential new HTTYD series.

I think I’ll plop in this post to give my quick overarching perspective of Hiccstrid. Don’t worry, it’s not just an answer “Do you or don’t you ship Hiccstrid” - I give some explanation of my perspective about the ship as a whole.

As far as Hiccami is concerned, it’s honestly something I’d rather do without. It’s not that it’s a bad ship, but what’s so refreshing about the How to Train Your Dragon books is that they’re written with an emphasis on platonic and familial love. It’s not about the main protagonist male falling in love with the lead female character. The adults - Stoick and Valhallarama, for instance - are written with romantic emotions, but the children in the series interact with one another through friendships. And I absolutely adore the fact that the HTTYD books are about a friendship trio - Hiccup, Fishlegs, Camicazi - and I prefer the trio to be the platonic triangle they are. It’s just so nice to have an adventure without some sort of romantic entanglement between the lead characters.

And that’s really the biggest critical difference between Hiccstrid and Hiccami for me. Hiccstrid is written to be a romance from the start; the filmmakers even talk in the commentary about the “get the girl” trope they realize. But Hiccami is something that is firmly established as a friendship, and which is written through the lens of a friendship, and which consequently I so far much prefer to be a friendship. I will be honest... I would HUGELY prefer if Hiccup and Camicazi never hooked up. Not saying where my suspicions are with Cowell (and I do have my suspicions), but I’d be slightly disappointed if Cowell hooked them up as a couple in any future books she could write. XD As I said in the Hiccami marriage analysis from three years ago:

In a world where girls expect to see the main supporting female hook up with the main protagonist, it’s healthy to see that does not have to be the case. Even in action movies, after all, the action-oriented female character is often very romantically involved in the plot.

A little variety would be nice, and I hope that the author of the HTTYD novels realizes that making Camicazi purely platonic with Hiccup brings out something too frequently forgotten in modern society.

I consequently believe it is critically important that there are more female characters in literature and other media who have zero romantic roles in stories - not because romance is bad - but because female characters are too quickly mentally reduced in readers’ mind as the character central to the romantic part of a plot. The fact she and Hiccup are purely platonic is glorious, fun, and refreshing. A story where none of the main characters enter into a romance *IS* refreshing, after all, and important to readers.

I personally believe we need more stories that purely focus on the meaningfulness of platonic friendships. How platonic relationships are just as important and just as meaningful without ever, ever, ever turning into something romantic later down the road. Thus far, How to Train Your Dragon has done that by keeping Camicazi, Fishlegs, and Hiccup clear from any sort of serious romances. They are shown to be content with the relationships we have. I honestly feel, then, that Camicazi and Hiccup coming together at a later time reduces that message HTTYD thus far has given. Literarily, it is a bad idea to hook them up.

So I’m someone who isn’t invested in Hiccami, but is actually someone who wishes it doesn’t happen - regardless of the direction Cowell would choose to take it. However, I’m also not in some sort of NOTP zone with this, and if Cowell chooses to take that route and hook them up, I’ll give enormous respect to the author’s desires, too. There’s nothing about it I hate. I just have my preferences that these two remain friends. I like their friendship.

Because Hiccstrid was always written to be a canonical romance, I look at it very differently. I am someone who almost always prefers, supports, and gives credit to the canonical ships in a story. Therefore, you’ll notice that I’ll talk about Hiccstrid from the positive analytical lens of someone who’s fully accepted that romantic Hiccstrid is integral to the DreamWorks Dragons universe, and talk about the good elements that their relationship inspires. The casual closeness they have in HTTYD 2 is special and rare, for instance - we’re beyond the butterflies stage and into something cemented, which is so cool to see on screen. 

So essentially, I see Hiccstrid as “They’re supposed to be together in a romance” but Hiccami as “They’re so great together as friends!”