#i again

[punch-love]

conflict anon here again and im SO GLAD you agree man. i think what really gets me about it is that i was specifically searching for conflict-packed fic and that's why i was so let down. i also feel like authors are entitled to write whatever they want forever but it just FEELS to me when im reading their fics like they would be happier writing something more domestic, and i want to find something where they're more feral.

i want the ID reveal and the relationship-confirming to cause MORE problems, hell i want them to get together and blow out into a massive argument and breakup then have breakup sex and get back together and then realize the sex didn't actually fix anything and then break up again but they can't stop being obnoxiously in each others space either way

but it feels like fic im trying to find like this fights the very concept of conflict so hard and wants one singular plot point to fix everything as quickly as possible without even walking me through the characters' insight as to HOW that fixed anything other than "problem over, let's be together forever now!" let alone the level of conflict that'd be so engaging like that with a million curveballs

im so aware its a personal taste thing its just been frustrating reading fic after fic after fic and finding so little of it. its no ones fault i can't find fic perfectly tailored to my tastes specifically, i just tend to ramble about my frustration. you and oprime and sci and a couple other authors are my favorite for writing it the way you do, she's not gonna die today will always be one of my favorite fics of all time because it gave me that ever persisting conflict driven by their obsessive need to stick together even when they're fighting every step of the way. i just always get into a longwinded ramble when this comes up and i was hoping youd like to share your thoughts so thank you for answering 🙏

I think this pairing kind of presents a unique challenge to writers (at least it did for me) that action and conflict is such a huge, borderline essential part of their canonical dynamic. If you're not used to writing/utilizing both physical and emotional conflict, your stories can often fall so, so flat for these two, specifically because that's the fuel that makes the engine run. The first true action scene I ever wrote was chapter two of love-punch, and I like, now I'm an action writer for life now (editing an action sequence as we speak) but I had to get out of my comfort zone because I realized that type of stories I wanted to write about them required them to beat the shit out of each other to work.

These two are definitely not problem solvers so much as shit starters. I feel like for them, the problems they actually have to solve are the ways they perceive each other (because both of them heavily project onto the other) and what that means long-term for their relationship - every other form of conflict, to me, is up for grabs forever when it comes to their relationship. The shit talking, ass kicking, and fire starting is what makes them, them.

I've said this before, but a lot of people write fanfiction as an exploration of their own ideal relationships. (which is absolutely fine) I think spideypool is a difficult sell though, for that specific fantasy, because their relationship operates on instability and violence primarily. I think most people aren't looking for a relationship where your communication consists of name-calling, beat downs, and moral differences so severe it makes you almost kill each other a lot. That, does not make a good, a good or healthy real world relationship but SUCH a fun fictional one. People are going to write their fantasies out, though, and that fantasy is that one kiss/one fuck/one confession creates relationship fueled bliss forever because many people, hate conflict - both experiencing and reading it. It sucks, if you're a reader who likes problems. I also always say this, but I encourage you to channel that energy into writing your own work. It's what I did, and it paid off so great for me because now I have 12 works specifically catered to my own personal needs exclusively. Fandom is always going to suck, but you can be the change! (and if you don't want to write, that's cool too, sometimes it's good just to get your qualms out into the world and find people who agree)

tagging @primewritessmut again so she can read your praise straight from the source.

It's a tough fandom if you really like their canonical dynamic more than their fanon one, I feel you man. I am always holding a prayer circle that more writers who like problems more than they like easy resolutions joins in and starts writing some real fucked up shit.

[hazelmagix]

😔😔😔yeah no I will not be rewriting hoo bc I dont have like ANy ideas for hoo😐

[justsomeantifas]

OKAY BUT FOR REAL LETS TALK NARUTO. OKAY. WE GOTTA. i gotta put my foot down okay. okay.

why is it they LITERALLY in the very first episode watch him do something not even ANY OF THE HOKAGES COULD HAVE DONE EVER, producing HUNDREDS of /shadow clones/ as a CHILD who isn’t even considered a genin yet

and they’re basically like “wow neat, anyway, who cares.”

LIKE.. they really play it up in boruto that fucking NO ONE can make shadow clones like naruto can, and even like very early naruto right after he learns the technique fucking no one can make shadow clones like he can

LIKE WHAT GIVES they give him this overpowered godlike bullshit, and then just fucking shrug it off. 

smh. give younger naruto the respect he deserves ... i demand retribution.

[badtoyhouseblacklists]

This one is genuinely the worst holy shit

Why is this blacklist bad?

Formatting: super clunky, all over the place, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt for poor English since ESL is a thing and sometimes translations get lost in translator apps but this is just so hard to read. A lot of misspelling.

Serious accusations, NO PROOF: I'll give it to them though at the very least there are claims for some of the scamming allegations and one screenshot of someone allegedly defending groomers which if not taken out of context somehow is fucked.

Everything else is literal hearsay. Grooming, pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia, being openly anti-lgbt, endangering minors, being ableist etc all require proof OR a file to the authorities in the case of the harmful paraphilias. If these people are actual abusers, they need to be held accountable OFFLINE.

Strange/Discourse based Criteria

"diaper fetish" "proshipping" "feral nsfw" I do not care. Is the person harming kids or animals or corpses or expressing desires to hurt them, if yes file information relevant to the police. If no, block. I find it pretty insulting and revolting to question people being anti zoo or pedo as a lie (even if you don't say it, you're implying you don't believe they are against harmful paras/predators) for the art they draw or the kinks they like. I'm not fond of any of the things mentioned but still, that shit is hurtful to people. It's disgusting. You're not even being slick about it.

The only thing reportable here is the lolisho you're alleging these people of having. I don't speak much on lolisho since it repulses me since I do not like sexualized children in fiction sorry to say but I will say that a. you can report users for it and Sudo usually takes down their accounts rather than exposing more people to artwork you find gross and b. compared to literal pedophilia allegations that should be more pressing, even if I do agree finding Jack Jack or whatever attractive is very strange and concerning. Please just learn to silently block and report people for art you don't like or that violates site TOS like underage nsfw ie cub or lolisho.

I don't care if someone's into CNC that shit is a big nothing burger I'm sorry it's one of the most common kinks out there pleaseeee just block.

"acted extremely immaturely" "personal reasons" "more stuff about artwork I don't like" this is NOT public blacklist worthy, privately blacklist people or block them. Either as.

"Freebie flipper" again not fond of people who just grab freebies to sell or trade them off but in comparison to allegations of serious crimes against children and animals this is so jarring.

A bunch of other stuff I'm probably not talking about because this was so long and took so much time to censor and just the tone of this post is making me kinda mad lmao.

Tone:

This comes off as extremely unprofessional. I do not and will not ever expect a toyhouse user to document their abuse or scams like a lawyer would. But I do 100% expect that they make an attempt to cohesively explain WHY a person is dangerous.

"Really gross" "all disgusting feral nsfw artists" "uhmmm no it's not" and other stuff. A lot of this is cluttered and quite frankly adding additional commentary is unneeded. You can find something gross. It does not merit a blacklist. You can find someone's content abhorrent, repulsive, horrid. You do not need to include this in a blacklist.

I've already addressed the weird implication that people with clear boundaries against zoos and pedos must be hypocrites because they like sparkledog dong or diapers or whatever but because allegations of this nature without proof make me upset I'll say it again do not ever subtly accuse people of being into that shit just because you find their fetishes gross. It is abhorrent and should not be tolerated by this site. I don't think people realize how fucking horrific shit like asem/csem is when they start calling weird content of furries these things. Please stop diluting what these terms mean before it ends up hurting someone.

[changeling-droneco]

Honestly taking my course about conflict and peace has given me more faith in the stability of the US, looking into the causes for some of the biggest civil wars and the like of the past century, we're nowhere close to those conditions.

We're a somewhat isolated country, and i don't mean that in the sense of us being like wary of outsiders thats a whole other thing. Like look at the amount of countries in any other continent outside of australia, then look at the ones in the north american continent. Conflicts can easily spread through borders, and instability in one country can cause instability in a neighboring country, and that's not going into militias crossing borders or other countries purposefully trying to destabilize a region We simply are too far away for outside forces to easily or have a real reason to try and cause things to destabilize. Not to say outside forces never manipulate, but when they do it tends to be more subtle and precise over specific people or laws, and less about territory that another group wants. This also means when we go to war, 9/10 we are going to another continent and failure overseas is less likely to follow back to our continent. Not that they never do of course, but just that it's rare and often limited in scope.

While government brutality is definitely present, it isn't overwhelming, especially when it comes to violence against organized protests I know I know that sounds stupid, but think about it, even if they are using lethal forces, when it comes to large demonstrations, officers tend to lean towards injuries and maiming. The lethal forces they use tend to be lethal force thats been softened to purposefully be less lethal even if the possibility is still there (rubber bullets for instance) When you go to a protest, you know there's a chance you can get hurt, and badly, but getting killed? Odds are very low. We haven't yet reached a point where our government has an official shoot to kill policy on peaceful protestors. We haven't reached an extreme crush down of that degree towards dissent which can be a crucial part of why people create militias. Obviously any police brutality is bad, and this isn't me defending cops in any way, it's me pointing out why despite police brutality being very present, it hasn't been a breaking point of the country and is unlikely to become one. Oppression isn't a contest, any amount of police brutality is inexcusable, it just has nuances to what the exact kind of police brutality you might be facing is and what are the effects of that kind.

While the economy kinda sucks, the American Dollar is still essentially the gold standard y'know? (and i dont say that as a compliment its an economic thing). Our money isn't overly devalued and while groceries are too fucking expensive, it's not like a hundred dollars for a thing of bread levels of inflation and poverty. USD is the global reserve currency (blame world war 2). Poverty is an issue, but it isn't extreme yet, and really it would be a huge problem for basically everyone globally if it did because that would like mean mass inflation to a point of risking it's status as reserve currency, so no one really wants that.

We haven't really had any massive destruction, we aren't a country ravaged by war, torn apart by earthquakes, or completely decimated in fire. While small parts of the US have been heavily impacted, overall, we're pretty damage free. Instability or distrust after major devastation can be a pretty big factor. War can very much be a cycle of a traumatized population going through war, being failed to help recover from the government, which causes unrest, which wouldn't you know it, causes fighting, which can lead to more war! This is something we don't really experience much in the US because again, no wars really happen on our own soil. We rarely ever get a sense of immense national loss.

Discrimination and all that stuff is really complicated and I'm def not the best person to talk about it but the basics is while we definitely have discrimination, any sort of inherent even if subconscious caste system around discrimination is rather loose and fragmented these days. This makes it harder for people to band together over a shared caste injustice, and we have channels to direct that energy when we do band together without resorting to violence or feel like violence is the only way to be heard. As such, protests tend to stay peaceful. This along with religious diversity means the biggest powder keg of oppression between religions is mostly avoided. Not completely, there's definitely some religious groups more worse off or at risk, especially in recent years, but overall, at least the idea of freedom of religion does a lot of heavily lifting to reduce conflict, even if sometimes we suck at actually enforcing it.

So all and all? The odds of the US falling apart? Pretty damn low, shit might suck for awhile, but it's just not at all the right kind of mix of conflict and unrest needed for civil war to be more then a faint possibility.

If I got anything wrong though or if anyone has something to add feel free to add it though!

[dreamlnder]

im back at my bs more men in slutty outfits

[myangelscrimson]

My brother just referred to Cutthroat as a wild boy