#interlopers

[toonydarling]

*screams of the tormented in the bg*

[ixmythot]

And she came home today!! I was surprised that the poncho actually spun around. Also nice to see more confirmation that Buddy's hair is LONG AS FUCK. I ABSOLUTELY WISH that they had gone with the Rando Skull mask, instead of the Joy mask, but I get it, the Joy mask is easier to craft, probably. Would have been dope as fuck though, having a mini-Rando Army skull to throw on Buddy instead, but I understand it probably would have been harder to make/craft to fit. And yes, that IS a Chara Dreemurr pin next to the pixel Buddy. My INTERLOPERS loving ass now just needs to find a Chara plush around the same size, so Buddy can have her Eternal Partner as she deserves. (Help and suggestions would be adored)

[kittypatch]

Two more interlopers eating up the food supply!!! 😬🫨🫩

[postal-ech]

Ya know what I haven't talked about it in a DAMN good bit, but given ive been seeing some interlopers stuff fly up on my feed I should add:

Much as I am to rage against Interlopers and its many, MANY plot issues, I ain't one to bash anyone who still finds some enjoyment in it.

If ya like it? More power to ya! And if you're looking to remake it or rewrite it yourself, GO FOR IT.

Sides, if there's anything I support it's people taking shit the glitchtale team fumbles the fucking bill on and make it their own.

It's still a weird undertale and LISA crossover, I'm sure plenty of LISA fans are either gonna wonder what the fuck it is, or get the thousand yard stare remembering that god damn thing, and not everyone - either pure LISA fans, Undertale fans, or mfers that like to cross shit over - will like the premise

But ey, I still think there's SOME merit to it.

As for my own little project? I have the FIRST whole damn chapter done, or at least its been done for a week or so, but I'm thinking on going back to add some things cause uh, I fucking forgot to confront the issue of the Trumpet Buddy gets at the end of Joyful.

Which, I did write it with the DE ending in mind, but it still wouldn't make much sense for Buddy - even if she is on a journey of healing in the wasteland of Olathe and beyond - to simply abandon something that makes Joy mutants null and void to her, or straight up control them.

There COULD be something interesting in her rejecting it, but it still feels like a massive step away from her character that should be rectified if anything

Do not expect this thing to come out any time soon, though. I am slowly chipping away at it, a page a day at least, though holy SHIT things like LibreOffice help massively in that department

Anyways, back to the regular schedule of reblogs, and the occasional yappery on shit, and an apology ahead of time to the Lisa mfers looking at this shit going "what the fuck is an interlopers" or "WHY the fuck is this a thing", I engage in esoteric and eldritch things with fandoms so you uh...uuuh....

Yeah I got nothing, I await my crucifixion in the coming months, mind the rube goldberg ass traps along the way.

[scented-candle04]

hiii ^^ I feel so dumb but I can't find "Lisa the determined" anywhere 😭😭 I searched in Jael's channel and couldn't find it, maybe it got re-named or deleted?

Hiii, so Lisa the Determined was actually the subtitle of what would have been season 2 of the project (which unfortunately was cancelled on an official basis </3)

But the main series is called Interlopers!! Someone compiled a playlist of the full series that you can find here, and the coinciding comic on Jael’s tumblr here!!

[myststone]

Midna. That’s it. That’s the post.

I saw someone somewhere mention the idea of Zelda actually talking to Midna when she says “Lend him your strength”

AND THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

BECAUSE AT THE END OF BOTW, ZELDA OUTRIGHT SAYS THAT SHE LOST HER SEALING POWER

AND IN TWILIGHT PRINCESS, ZELDA SACRIFICES HER HOLY POWER TO SAVE MIDNA’S LIFE

IT’S EVEN A THING ON THE WIKI

IT’S HER SOUL

WHICH WE KNOW IS HYLIA’S SOUL BECAUSE OF SKYWARD SWORD

THEREFORE POSSIBLY GIVING HER THE TRIFORCE OF WISDOM IN A SEPARATE TIMELINE

AND PLUS THE ZONAI ARE INCREDIBLY SIMILAR TO THE INTERLOPERS AND MIDNA’S RACE, NOT ONLY IN THE GAME, BUT BASED ON THE TRAILERS AS WELL

WE KNOW THEY’RE GOING TO PLAY A BIG ROLE

JUST LOOK AT THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THESE TWO THINGS

IN BOTW THEY’RE DESCRIBED AS SAVAGE, WARLIKE, AND STRONG MAGIC USERS

INTERLOPERS?

“Lanayru then describes them as a tribe of Hyrule with powerful magic, who desired control of the Sacred Realm.”

SOUNDS PRETTY SAVAGE AND WARLIKE TO ME

PLUS IF THE MASTER SWORD IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT MENDED, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE BLESSING OR POWER OF A GODDESS, AND MAYBE THAT’S WHERE MIDNA COMES IN TO PLAY. TO REPAY HER DEBT SO TO SPEAK?

IF THIS IS RIGHT

IF WE SEE MIDNA ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS

I SWEAR TO GOD

[reasoningdaily]

White People - LEAVE AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGIOUS SITES ALONE

This so called Animal Rescue org is not doing what people of good character do, when they find a religious site.

LEAVE THINGS ALONE

They have no idea what they have disturbed, and their attitudes are so clearly disrespectful; that the Palo Altar will work to protect itself, and when they disappear there will be no need to ask questions.

[mango-unit]

uhhhhh the interlopers?

ok so this is kind of a crackpot theory here but just bear with me here it goes somewhere

it ties into my theory about the nature of the oocca, the zonai, and prehistoric hyrule (before skyward sword) so im gonna give a quick rundown of that just as a reminder of the key points

the golden goddesses create hyrule. din creates the land, nayru creates science and magic, and farore creates life. (the parella, the kikwi, the mogma, the gorons, and the oocca)

the golden goddesses create the triforce to sustain the land in their absence, place it under the care of the goddess hylia, and then peace out

the oocca found prehistoric hyrule. all races of the surface are united in peace.

technology develops, and the zonai evolve from the oocca.

eventually, the hylians evolve from the zonai; around this time, the oocca and the zonai build the city in the sky, the capital of prehistoric hyrule. they both go to the skies; the hylians remain on the surface.

some stuff about the lanayru province, the wind tribe, and the gerudo. ive hashed that out in two previous posts now so maybe ill refrain this time around. point is, around this time is when the lanayru province is desertified.

eventually demise attacks. hylia sends most hylians up to the sky with the triforce to keep it out of his reach, then goes to war. some hylians remain on the surface during the war, becoming the sheikah. hyrule as a kingdom falls, however - everyone who lived there is either in the skies or dying to monsters.

after (barely) successfully sealing away demise, hylia is drained of much of her power, and would be unable to defeat him again should he return. as such, she creates a twofold plan: she forges the goddess blade and imbues it with the spirit fi, sending it up to skyloft to choose a hero when the time comes, and she vows to reincarnate as a human who will be able to wish upon the triforce for the destruction of demise. (gods cannot use the triforce)

finally skyward sword happens. when the hylians descend to the surface, the zonai follow, helping them to re-establish hyrule; the oocca, however, stay in the skies.

so i kind of skipped over a few things that arent super relevant but the theory im about to present directly regards this timeline.

now lets talk about the interlopers. gonna drop a quote from lanayru

"You must know that it was the will of the goddesses that we lock away the forbidden power…

When all was chaos, the goddesses descended and gave order and life to the world. They granted power equally to all who dwelt in the light, and then returned to the heavens. The lands where the goddesses descended came to be known as the Sacred Realm. For ages, the people lived at ease, content in mind and body…

But soon, word of the Sacred Realm spread through Hyrule, and a great battle ensured…

Among those living in the light, interlopers who excelled at magic appeared. Wielding powerful sorcery, they tried to establish dominion over the Sacred Realm. It was then that the goddesses ordered us three light spirits to intervene. We sealed away the great magic those individuals had mastered.

You know this magic… It is the dark power you seek… the Fused Shadow. O hero chosen by the goddesses… Beware… Those who do not know the danger of wielding power will, before long, be ruled by it. Never forget that…

The dark power that you seek is within the sleeping Lakebed Temple in Lake Hylia…"

Lanayru, Twilight Princess

the light spirit lanayru explains here the story of the interlopers. "among those living in the light, interlopers who excelled at magic appeared." most assume the interlopers were hylian; the twili kind of look like distorted hylians. but lanayru never says hylians, it says "those living in the light."

so, just for a moment, dont assume the interlopers were exactly hylian. but dont assume they were exactly zonai, either, in spite of what im about to show you.

im gonna drop some images for you to check out as you wish.

fashion is shockingly similar. almost identical recurring patterns of thin bands of light. even the architecture itself is pretty much the same. not to mention the fact that the twili look like blue, physically deformed hylians (the deformations more than likely due to their time in the twilight realm)...

i believe theres a high chance that the interlopers, the ancestors of the twili, are the evolutionary mid-point between the zonai and the hylians (they are blue and gray). or, if not that, theyre hylians from prehistoric hyrule, who still share much of the zonai culture and design (the blue-gray skin could also be from the time spent in the twilight realm, much like the physical deformations).

when demise attacked, the hylians were sent into the sky and created their own kind of culture, much more akin to the medieval cultures of germanic tribes that is featured in arthurian myth (which zelda draws heavy inspiration from - the master sword being drawn by the one true hero is a clear parallel to excalibur being drawn by the one true king).

the interlopers didnt do that. they were sent into the twilight realm and held on to the culture they were separated from. most likely due to their intimate connection with magic - the zonai infrastructure is fundamental to their magical tech, as we see in totk. so the twili, keeping hold of their magically-oriented culture without trying to reinvent the wheel, would naturally have similar infrastructure.

so if theres a connection between the zonai and the interlopers (who eventually become the twili), and the zonai werent really present by the time of the hyrulian civil wars (which the interloper battle is widely considered to have been a part of), then whats the deal?

i believe the interloper event happened much earlier than previously thought.

much earlier.

as in, before skyward sword. in prehistoric hyrule.

im going to provide one more account of the creation of the world, just for some additional context:

"Before time began, before spirits and life existed…

Three golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule…

Din, the goddess of power…

Nayru, the goddess of wisdom…

Farore, the goddess of courage…

Din…

With her strong flaming arms, she cultivated the land and created the red earth.

Nayru…

Poured her wisdom onto the earth and gave the spirit of law to the world.

Farore…

With her rich soul, produced all life forms who would uphold the law.

The three great goddesses, their labors completed, departed for the heavens.

And golden sacred triangles remained at the point where the goddesses left the world.

Since then, the sacred triangles have become the basis of our world’s providence.

And, the resulting place of the triangles has become the Sacred Realm."

Great Deku Tree, Ocarina of Time

the key takeaway here is the fact that the location where the triforce was created became the entryway to the sacred realm. i will be incorporating this into the theory to make it cleaner.

with all this in mind, let me adjust that timeline from earlier:

the golden goddesses create hyrule. din creates the land, nayru creates science and magic, and farore creates life. (the parella, the kikwi, the mogma, the gorons, and the oocca)

the golden goddesses create the triforce to sustain the land in their absence; the place where it is created becomes the entryway into the sacred realm, where the triforce is initially stored. the goddess hylia is tasked with watching over the world in their absence.

the oocca found prehistoric hyrule. all races of the surface are united in peace.

technology develops, and the zonai evolve from the oocca. as time passes, the interlopers evolve from the zonai; they are more hylian in shape, but keep the blue and gray skin.

eventually, the hylians evolve from the interlopers; around this time, the oocca and the zonai build the city in the sky, the capital of prehistoric hyrule. they both go to the skies; the hylians and the interlopers remain on the surface. the zonai and the oocca rule the kingdom, and the hylians are the favorite of the goddess hylia; the interlopers are widely considered irrelevant, and are treated as just that: interlopers.

some stuff about the lanayru province, the wind tribe, and the gerudo. ive hashed that out in two previous posts now so maybe ill refrain this time around. point is, around this time is when the lanayru province is desertified.

the interlopers begin setting a plan in motion. they develop a mastery over powerful magic, as detailed by lanayru, and attempt to establish dominion over the sacred realm. if the zonai were to be worshipped and the hylians were to be coddled, the interlopers were to be respected as the ultimate arbiters of divine power.

the golden goddesses take notice. the light spirits intervene under their direction. they chase the interlopers across hyrule into the desertified lanayru province, sealing them away in the twilight realm. they consider the matter dealt with.

worried about this close brush with the interlopers, the golden goddesses take the triforce out of the sacred realm and place it under the care of the goddess hylia. finally, they leave the world again, this time permanently.

eventually demise attacks. hylia sends most hylians up to the sky with the triforce to keep it out of his reach, then goes to war. some hylians remain on the surface during the war, becoming the sheikah. hyrule as a kingdom falls, however - everyone who lived there is either in the skies or dying to monsters.

after (barely) successfully sealing away demise, hylia is drained of much of her power, and would be unable to defeat him again should he return. as such, she creates a twofold plan: she forges the goddess blade and imbues it with the spirit fi, sending it up to skyloft to choose a hero when the time comes, and she vows to reincarnate as a human who will be able to wish upon the triforce for the destruction of demise. (gods cannot use the triforce)

finally skyward sword happens. when the hylians descend to the surface, the zonai follow, helping them to re-establish hyrule; the oocca, however, stay in the skies.

thats pretty much how it fits into the timeline. one thing i can see being a problem is how the interlopers lost their absolutely massive ears from the zonai, but theres a perfectly reasonable explanation for that. a quote from the alttp manual (literal translation from japanese):

これらの記録書を書き残したハイリア民族は、神の声を聞くことができる選ばれた民でした。

The Hylian people, who left behind these written records, were an elected (chosen) people able to hear the voices of gods.

それゆえ、高い耳を持ち、感覚に優れ、魔法を使いました。

For that reason they were in possession of tall ears, excelled senses, and the use of magic/sorcery.

the hylians (or the zonai, as thats who they inherited the trait from) developed their large ears in order to hear the voices of the goddesses. the interlopers were sealed in the twilight realm, far from the goddesses; as such, the need for such ears vanished. as the twilight altered their forms, the unnecessary trait was dropped.

and yeah, thats basically it. to be perfectly honest im not sure if im on to something here or if this is just another crackpot theory with no weight to it that are all over the internet