#intersexphobia

[metalheadsagainstfascism]

"But only 2% of the population is intersex. It's not that common. Why should we reframe or perception of gender for intersex people?"

Completely ignoring the fact that empathy exists. You do realize that 2% of the population in the medical field is considered very common, yes?

2% of children and 0.5% of adults have a peanut allergy and that's so common that they have entire rules around in in public spaces.

0.24-1% of the population has Rheumatoid arthritis. That's an eighth to a half of the number of intersex people!

1-2% of people are estimated to have autism, and that's considered a common condition.

0.1%-2.6% of people will get melanoma in their life time, and that's considered common.

1.2% of people have epilepsy and that's considered common.

Completely ignoring statistics like 6% of women have PCOS (which is a condition that can fall under the intersex umbrella). 2% of the population in the medical field is considered a common condition, and ergo by medical terms intersex is in itself common.

I don't think you realize how big 2% is. That's 2 in 100 people. If you walk into 3 fully filled classrooms (when I was in school a full classroom was 40 students). Chances are you just saw 2 intersex kids and didn't even know it.

So yeah. I think intersex is common enough to include in our discussions around gender and how transphobic rules affects intersex people.

-fae

[native-orchid]

Why, an honest question, are there so many trans women posting sexy pics of themselves and using the term "intersex" while doing it?

Y'all, most of us who are actually intersex are looking for community, not nudes. Can you maybe not be intersexist and let us have our tags for the purpose we need them for? And before anyone calls me transphobic, I'm also trans. Yep, intersex and trans, and frustrated

A person does not become intersex by taking HRT or having surgery. Pretending that's how intersex works or whatever is harmful to non-intersex trans people as well, believe it or not. (That's because there's such widespread misinformation about intersex, oddly much of which is from social media 🙄)

And fetishizing our bodies is just gross. So, can y'all quit? Please?

[skygenders]

weirdo corners of the internet are saying most professional female athletes are intersex so that’s a yikes

[snortoborto]

Not sure if y'all know this cause it seems like y'all might not know this, but your dysphoria is not the fault of your trans siblings who experience gender differently than you do. Taking your secondhand dysphoria out on your own community will not make you feel better, and it certainly will not make you "one of the good ones."

[adversarysmile]

Are you fully against transfem intersex people who were labeled as "female" at birth and mutilated to apply but then we're raised as boys like boys, had atypical or masculinizing puberties and so on calling themselves transfem even when they're on E, have bottom surgery to have anatomy that is actually seen as "female" and so on? O

r is it more so your concern of the transmisogyny and how horrific it can be is more centered on intersex people who were labeled as "male" at birth being harmed by the intersection of transmisogyny and intersexism? (Which to be clear AMAB intersex transfems face it way more so than AFAB intersex transfems due to the privilege of having a specific gender marker accessible)

I'm guessing your thing was more about people who say they're TMA when they're on testosterone and transitioning to be seen as a man rather than people who are transitioning femininely though so this may be a dumb question but I just wanted to be sure where your feelings lay with that.

you're talking about people who were assigned a male sex-of-rearing, which is a male assignment of sex. i understand that many people do not even know that assigned sex-of-rearing is a thing that is practiced and discussed extensively by doctors as part of intersexphobic assignment practices, and may be different from the assigned "medicolegal" sex.

but i have actually heard of that before, and i think it is part of why afab (birth!) people can sometimes be transfem - IF they are rejecting a coercive male assignment.

thats what transfem means, btw, rejecting a binary male assignment. literally the person you're talking about can say they were "assigned male" and be telling the truth. im sorry many people do not understand that position.

if i did say "at birth," like you appear to be implying, can you point to me where i supposedly said "assigned at birth," so i can correct my mistake? i would appreciate that. i prefer not to accidentally imply that only assignment at birth counts, since part of intersexphobia can involve having multiple gender/sex assignments.

(nb: i use the medical terms "assigned sex/gender" and "assigned sex-of-rearing" because i think coming up with "community terms" to refer to the tools they use to harm us is gross)

(also to add: intersex trans women camab almost always face a double male assignment (both at birth and sex-of-rearing) and this is different from what intersex people afab can experience. non-intersex trans women also face this double male assignment, but do not face intersexphobia)

[dittohasadhd]

What is the appropriate term for discrimination against intersex people?

interphobia/intersexphobia

intersexism

perisexism

endosexism

dyadism

none of the above

any of the above

multiple of these, but not all.

it's complicated/nuanced

Voting ended onSep 18, 2024

[adiharper]

Does this look like I was ever a guy? Honestly.

[daughter-of-sapph0]

cis people have access to any gender affirming medicine they want

trans people have to beg and plead and get fifty notes from doctors who know nothing about trans people saying it's okay before they're allowed to do anything

and intersex people have it forced upon them, sometimes when they're as young as only a few minutes old, completely against their will and without their consent.

cis people have a monopoly on gender. they get to decide who gets to have the gender they want, and who is forced to suffer in an uncomfortable dysphoric body against their will and make it next to fix it.