#isff discourse

[i-suggest-transing-your-gender]

isff isnt a kink blog? the only transmasc hate i could see from isff isnt hate to transmascs but to a word, transmisandry, you know the word thats trying to be like transmisogyny the word that is the intersection of transphobia and misogyny, transmisandry in theory can exist but because misandry doesnt exist it cant exist, even the other word transandrophobia has issues because people are using it in a similar way to transmisandry the same people are also trying to change the meaning behind transmisogyny, overall the words, transmisandry and transandrophobia are whole clusterfucks of people seeing what transfems had and wanted what they had.

"ISFF isn't a kink blog"

Forcefem is a kink. Like even if there wasn't any of the other stuff I'm about to say, her blog is based in kink. She posts about kidnapping and manipulating boys into being girls in a way that's very clearly intended to be sexual.

Even disregarding that, she reblogs diaper kink stuff to her blog regularly. She shares kink stuff on her blog.

"The only hate I could see from ISFF isn't hate to transmascs but to a word,"

Oh okay then let me show you

All the rest of that

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, you clearly have a very eurocentric view of the world if you think all transmascs/trans men have power over transfems/trans women. You've also clearly never talked to a transmasc long enough to know the bullshit they go through. You're made to feel like you'll lose value as a person for transitioning, that nobody will love you because you'll be ugly and scary, that you're just a delusional girl going through a phase and you shouldn't have a right to make those decisions about your body.

This is going to sound outlandish to you transmascs actually DON'T want the transmisandry/transandrophobia they face, I bet they'd all love to not have to deal with that actually.

[PT: "ISFF isn't a kink blog"

Forcefem is a kink. Like even if there wasn't any of the other stuff I'm about to say, her blog is based in kink. She posts about kidnapping and manipulating boys into being girls in a way that's very clearly intended to be sexual.

Even disregarding that, she reblogs diaper kink stuff to her blog regularly. She shares kink stuff on her blog.

"The only hate I could see from ISFF isn't hate to transmascs but to a word,"

Oh okay then let me show you

All the rest of that

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, you clearly have a very eurocentric view of the world if you think all transmascs/trans men have power over transfems/trans women. You've also clearly never talked to a transmasc long enough to know the bullshit they go through. You're made to feel like you'll lose value as a person for transitioning, that nobody will love you because you'll be ugly and scary, that you're just a delusional girl going through a phase and you shouldn't have a right to make those decisions about your body.

This is going to sound outlandish to you transmascs actually DON'T want the transmisandry/transandrophobia they face, I bet they'd all love to not have to deal with that actually.]

[gayygambler]

i love how isff supporters are like " we MUST support transfems we cannot fall for this transmisogynistic hate campaign ! " and then when you mention that transfems of color have been calling out her racism from the beginning it's no no no wait it's a transmisogynistic hate campaign against this poor innocent white woman WAIT why aren't you listening !!! SUPPORT (white) TRANSFEMS (who agree with my points of view only)

like sorry i'm standing with my fellow Indigenous people over your French white Tumblr idol. there are very few times I'll listen to a non-Indigenous person's opinion on us, and those are select cases of someone raised nearby or in the culture.

i don't know how to dumb this down for you even more. statistics and dono links aren't enough because you don't care about Indigenous people. picking your token white french woman over Indigenous people is racist, point blank. you post in support of isff, you're turning your back on Indigenous and Black transfems and calling it transfeminism. it's pathetic, it's flimsy, and it's honestly just a sad excuse from mostly her friends and people who wanna be her friend lol.

once again, in all caps so you can see,

INDIGENOUS LIVES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR FRENCH WHITE FEELINGS. CALLING OUT RACISM IS NOT TRANSMISOGYNISTIC.

can't believe I'm getting rage-baited by a French woman and her orbiters but holy shit. Non natives shut the FUCK UP about your opinions on this nobody asked you put your money where your mouth is and donate to your local rez and tribal council

[zk-j]

lotta popular transfems on this site will say that hating a minority is inexcusable and then go hate "tmes" (which basically means transmascs/non-binary people). and they treat offending pedophiles better than any transmasc. and no one questions this logic.

[fleshengine]

you know looking back, ISFF Sportacus Gambit worked incredibly well. It drowned out the posts about her so most casual participants of the harassment campaign couldn't follow it and lost interest, and angered the inner circle leading to them becoming more and more unhinged as time goes on. This caused a division in the group, the casual followers no longer care, and the people leading the charge are now too obviously crazy and evil to attract more casuals. As far as I can tell the campaign is effectively dead. The people who still hate ISFF are casually calling themselves nazis and "big if true"ing fucking pizzagate. They're done, they're too radicalized to pretend to be on the side of social justice or anything. Everyone can tell exactly what kind of people they are, even if they delete all their old posts to try and hide it.

They dug their graves and now they are dying in them. Good riddance you evil cunts.

[rubyfa]

I miss when all I had to look for to check if one of my fellow queers' blogs was safe was harry potter. Now I gotta look for all these oppression bingo buzzwords like tme. Seeing where to push the block button is only getting foggier. I hate it here.

[funy-birb-man]

I just looked at one of ISFF's more recent posts on one of her alts

(link to the original post below and an Internet Archive link here)

Tumblr. Pure effervescent enrichment. Old internet energy. Home of the Reblogs. All the art you never knew you needed. All the fandoms you c

pretty standard post- hey, wait a fuckin second

WAIT JUST A FUCKIN SECOND I KNOW THAT HANDLE

(CW For physical and mental abuse. The descriptions are not particularly graphic, to be clear, but better safe than sorry)

(The Reddit link is to a video of Sophie talking further about her behavior. With other unpleasant people, like Kirachats/Badbunny, who has a history of bigoted comments)

To be charitable, she genuinely just may not have known about the accusations against Sophie. Given, to my knowledge, the fact that her entire online circle is leftist trans women, I find that to be somewhat unlikely.

Edit: I went on the blog specifically to because I was trying to be charitable and fair, and see what her arguments against all of the stuff that has been talked about these last few months were, and literally the first thing I see is her reblogging someone who abused multiple other trans women.

[jayisfromearth]

Blocklist of copy-cat ISFF Blogs

Any others brought to my attention will be added to this list, thank you.

wesuggestforcefem

iamnolongersuggesting

isuggestgirlization

iexpectforcefem

iforcefeminize

i-suggest-forcefem-en-masse

suggestingforcefem

forcefemmingagain

we-suggest-girl

estroggestion

isuggestgirlforever

secondstroggestion

iloveforcefem

iadviseforcefem

girlifier

forcefem-suggested

isuggesttranstion

idemandforcefem

ienactforcefem

missgirlmaker

forcefemisuggest

missstrogen

missgirlmaker

isuggeslove (now d4iy4n)

[problematicpeniswriting]

Getting called transandrobro for saying "literally call it anything else but Forcefem and you'll be fine" is fucking hilarious if it wasn't so damn creepy that this person likes miss "rape the two year old head mate with mama" and "I'm friends with lolicons"

Not all kink acts are sexual, but they STILL take place in ADULT spaces where they can taken advantage of. Because AGAIN Forcefem may not be ALWAYS sexual, but it's STILL SEXUAL.

Also not what reading comprehension means. I get what you're saying, I just think you're stupid as hell.

Block and report @healdrop