#keen2

[burdenof-dutyandwinter]

I enjoy this too much

Individually.

Ahahfhhshfhsjdhshdf nb4t keen2 <3

[sketchingpetals]

Idc about the plot, I'm a lesbian and Elizabeth Keen is thee hottest woman alive, I 100% understand Tom, I would gladly die for her if it meant I could hold her once

Like- are you kidding me?

[takadasaiko]

She’s dealing with it in a way I still haven’t figured out yet.

[thomas-keen]

To start over? Isn't that what you do for a living?

[idkimrllynerdy]

all found family tv shows have:

insp.

[hauntedheroines]

What is your ideal villain x heroine relationship?

Well first, there are Basic Rules(TM):

Must see her as a human being, not as a pretty object, disposable or replaceable. Examples of villains that don’t do this: Jabba The Hutt and Ming the Merciless

He must be clean. He doesn’t have to be pretty, just hygienic. Grima, from LotR, is ugly, but I still ship him with Eowyn, while Jabba The Hutt is just a disgusting worm.

He is powerful and talented; has to have some sort of confidence. I can pity him, sometimes it's even better when I do (like with The Phantom of the Opera) but some stalker movies make the character so realistically obsessed because he is an insecure and repressed person. This also has to do with not seeing her as an object. Most of the time they don’t even know why they want the girl, they are just searching for any replacement for the maternal love they didn’t get. They don’t think they are special, they would just take anything to fill the gap.

He can’t be willing to watch her die. This usually ruins the ship. I mean hurt her, okay, but to kill her would mean he thinks he can live without her. And if he thinks that, he better get into a deep depression and regret afterward, or be well-aware that he has dammed himself for the rest of his life. Leôncio from Isaura The Slave Girl, Bill from Kill Bill, Jack Devlin from The Net, and Frollo from NDdP do that.

Either the heroine wins or neither of them do. The villain must not triumph at the ending, keep the girl hostage and miserable at his side. Either he is redeemed or he is ass kicked. There is no evil triumph - nor in the sense that he gets everything he wants without reforming himself into a better person, neither in the sense that the heroine is corrupted and rules as mistress of darkness by his side. The most I can accept of a good character losing is that she loved him despite it all and after rejecting him, they both perish.

The ideal villain x heroine is when they are bond by their loneliness. Most authors believe the villain is always the hero's antithesis - the classic "Two sides of the same coin".

Maybe they share trauma, neglect - people think they are strange or too erratic. Maybe the heroine's willpower is walking the line of ruthlessness. Her power inspires fear in people, even in her, but the villain admires it.

Either way, they feel there are parts of them no one else would understand. That only they could know and love. That the villain, in an curious way, challenges her to become the greatest version of herself.

They would be the perfect match in different circumstances, or if the villain wasn’t so far gone. But he has hurt too many people and to forgive that would be impossible. Maybe forgiveness is not what he seeks. Maybe he just wants to be sure she will never leave him, the only way he knows how.

She hates him, but once again he is the only one who matches her. Examples of ships that do this: Steerpike x Fuchsia, Annie x the Teacher, Alina x Darkling, Reylo, Casey x Kevin...

Other interesting premises:

They have a telepathic connection. A spell was cast on them and their hearts are connected. One can only die when the other does. They could even be born from the same womb at the same time. Like, they came to this world together; their destinies are intertwined oh no Nuada/Nuala.

They were childhood friends or met when they were younger oh my gosh I love this trope.

The heroine is socially acceptable in her sexuality, meaning she is not sexually active or she is a full-on virgin. The villain is comfortable with his own and teases her.

He never loved anyone before. EVER.

He is more invested than she is, or at least he gives in and expresses his feelings more than she does, showing her the possibilities and getting frustrated when she discards them once again. He will be willing to sacrifice everything for her while she will hesitate (Lizzie from The Blacklist) or will rather kill herself later (Lady Fuchsia Groan) than to be with the man she loves because of the moral boundaries, people who depend on her, the complete absurd of saving such a despicable person and etc.

Or else, let him be tormented. Let his feelings for her confuse and scare him. Let it be against everything he is and believes. Let her be a whore or heretic and he, a devotee. Let her be his family and he, in a position of power and prestige like a king or a millionaire, wanting the only thing he can’t have and would make him a joke to those who fear and respect him now. Let him stare at her intensely, without her knowing why, trying to kill or imprison her or send her away, only to succumb and confess his feelings. Let him be disgusted with himself for wanting her, blaming her, and then coming back on his knees for crumbs of affection from the one he has disgraced. Let his power be drained from him and delivered to the hands of whom he judged unworthy, to such an extent that he is the one to make the delivery. Let his feelings consume him to the point he doesn’t even know what he is doing anymore, things he never thought he was capable of; burning a city, destroying a kingdom, enslaving a galaxy.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT IS:

They defy each other. I like it better when the heroine is not naive and passive. They can fight mano-a-mano or play his mind games and schemes. Or she just has a mind of her own and won’t bend to his.

[forevermytom]

actual representation of me watching the opening scene of Episode 4, Season 8 “Elizabeth Keen” and I see this face. 

me:

when she grabs Tom’s washer in the very same episode 

me: 

[izzythehutt]

I'm sorry but I'm curious: are you going to just... glaze over the fact that Tom was repeatedly verbally and physically abusive towards Liz? That he knowingly and intentionally hurt her, physically and emotionally, on several occasions?

The problem with Tom lies not just in the fact that Tom is a criminal (though, that, too) but in the way he behaved with Liz.

In a hyper-stylized crime/espionage/spy show, I don't consider a Mr. and Mrs. Smith style physical fight where the goal is to escape/holding someone at gunpoint "abuse." I honestly think Liz keeping Tom chained to the bottom of a ship for several months so she can pump him for information is way more effed up than anything he did to her, yes, even their marriage that was made under false pretenses (which Tom half did to protect himself and half did because he just...was in love with her.)

This is also a show that presents aforementioned boat kidnapping as being motivated by a perverse inability to let the man she loves go ("playing house"), so......applying normal person logic to the behavior and moral standards of characters on TBL is probably not super useful....

I actually like Red as the disapproving father-in-law to Tom (I find his passive-aggressive attitude hilarious) and don't really blame him for thinking the relationship is a bad idea, I just find his reasoning funny because you could pretty much apply the same logic to Red and Liz and conclude that he should never have come out of the shadows and forced her onto the task force in the first place.

Like...let's be real...they both kind of make her life worse and more dangerous by any objective metric. But Liz is attracted to psychotic criminal types so she don't care!