#lady laurel

[kulttuurinkurittama]

Judgement

Felt like drawing these two in public to show off how differently they carry themselves when observed, interest to the dynamics yknow yknow.

Also tried shading with coloured pencils instead of markers like I would usually do. Need to play around a bit more with it.

[kamalemons]

Fanart of Lady Laurel, Flame Knight, and Frory (as ice cream) of @le-0-nid for Stargate's 4th Anniversary Art Trade!

[tboymordred]

go go laurel/aggie beam

[queer-ragnelle]

It's just that I fell in love with a war Nobody told me it ended And it left a pearl in my head And I roll it around every night Just to watch it glow Every night, baby, that's where I go —Mitski

[sir-borre]

Ladies of Orkney

Piper Perabo - Lady Awen (Princess Dioneta's daughter)

Gwendoline Christie - Lady Ragnelle, duchess of Northumberland (Sir Gawain's first wife)

Emma Hamilton - Lady Martha duchess of Perth and Northumberland (Sir Gawain's second wife)

Katherine Heigl - Lady Anna of Northumberland (Sir Gawain and Lady Martha's daughter) [OC]

Eva Green - Princess Laurel of Orkney (Prince Agravaine's wife)

Caity Lotz - Dione the selkie (Prince Gaheris's lover) [OC]

Milly Alcok - Lady Aura of Orkney (Prince Gaheris and Dione's daughter) [OC]

Sophie Turner - Princess Lynet of Orkney (Prince Gaheris's wife)

Natalie Dormer - Princess Lyonesse of Orkney (Prince Gareth's wife)

Hedy Lamarr - Queen Cwyllog of Britain (King Mordred's wife)

[mordredpendragon]

Hands you an Agravaine (for the ask meme) :3

hi ram !!!! thank you for the ask! here's an agravaine for you <3

with a bonus laurel!

ask game under the cut

favorite thing about them

tbh i was pretty neutral on him until i started reading vulgate, he's so much more fleshed out and layered there (i started reading arthuriana with le morte d'arthur and he does fuck all there lol)

i think he's an incredibly compelling character, especially with his interpersonal relationships. there's just something about gawain having a younger brother named essentially not gawain and being a huge contrast to him, and i also really like his relationship with mordred in vulgate as an older brother who raised him. he's the kind of character who's wedged in between characters that are larger than him (i'm sorry agravaine but you're related to gawain, mordred, and arthur and being someone who's related to them is kinda your whole thing) and that in itself is interesting. especially considering that he dies during the fall of camelot, arthur mourns his death

vulgate, death of arthur

rereading this for this post put a tears in my eyes IT KILLS MEEEEEE. AGRAVAINE...... but yes tl;dr my favorite thing about him is being related to gawain/arthur/mordred and him dying. its sooo so so fun (not for them but its fun for ME)

least favorite thing about them

tbh, i find him to be severely underutilized (and if not, completely done dirty) i hate the characterization in which he's just mordred's lackey and there to pretty much die to lancelot and nothing else.

i think it would be way more impactful if he was fleshed out as a legit character. adds to the tragedy that he was somebody the audience actually cares for and not just some NPC lancelot murders lol.

also, really dislike how prose tristan stuff writes him (and the orkney brothers in general) where he's an irredeemable villain but i digress. it doesn't help that i don't care for the orkney/wales blood feud. it's never done in a way that resonates with me.

also the character assassination TH White has done to agravaine PISSES ME OFFFFFFFF ALL THE SHITTY AGRAVAINES IN MODERN ARTHURIANA IS HIS FAULT I SWEAR. aka making him morgause's killer throwing in some added incest in which he lusts for her. GROSS !!!! agravaine get behind me!!!!!

favorite line

tbh i could put anything that he says in mordred, a tragedy by henry newbolt but i really love this one in particular. talking about their brothers and that they're on mordred's side.... it brings a tear to my eye i love the orkneys so much. they're BROTHERS !!!!!!!!

brOTP

obviously him and his brothers! gawain and agravaine is great. so is mordred and agravaine. among his brothers those two i think he has the most interesting dynamic with. this post is already stupidly long and i could make an entire post in general about agravaine's relationship with his brothers, so i think i'll focus on agravaine and mordred.

for one, i love agravaine and mordred in BBC Legend of King Arthur 1979. the orkney brothers in general are great in it (minus gaheris bc he isn't there RIP) but i adore how it expounds on his dynamic with mordred AND his aunt morgan. mordred and morgan are both schemers with plots against arthur and guinevere, morgan wanting revenge on her father gorlois' death and mordred having (in later episodes) vying for the throne, agravaine on the other hand is a lot more sincere and earnest. he had no ulterior motives and his undoing was his honesty. he loved his uncle arthur, and he meant well when he wanted to report guinevere and lancelot's affair to him, because he saw it as a betrayal on arthur, not an opportunity (like morgan and mordred). those two had to "corrupt" him in some way, which what happens during the guinevere apple murder trial because mordred and morgan essentially make agravaine an unwilling accomplice. its soooo so fascinating i highly recommend that show.

second, i'd love to talk about agravaine and mordred in henry newbolt's play: mordred, a tragedy 1895. genuinely has got to be one of my if not THE favorite retelling i've ever read. if anyone reading this hasn't, i'd just urge you to read it bc it's just that good. mordred is the main character as the title says, and agravaine is one of the main secondary characters, he takes on an almost paternal/guiding figure to a young yet incredibly idealistic, passionate mordred and acts as his voice of reason.

JAW DROP..... LIKE THIS SCENE WAS CRAZY. the earlier conversation where it was just them is top notch, and this kind of dynamic between agravaine and mordred is something i'd love to see more often.

BIG fan of agravaine essentially being the logical/reasonable one between his brothers. i've compared him to dinadan because i think they're similar characters (except obviously agravaine isn't a jester/bard like he is) but they function similarly, in my opinion.

OTP

AGRAVAINE AND LAUREL 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖 i love them so so soso much it drives me insane. they're so perfect. i don't care that laurel is basically just a name in malory, i also love the HC that she's his lady love who (alongside a young mordred) takes care of him when he was suffering from a curse in vulgate.

admittedly i am biased to how i write them and how my peers write them (shoutout to @queer-ragnelle AGAIN lmao this is literally your fault)

nOTP

anything incestuous. looking at you TH White.

random headcanon

my favorite headcanon is that he's got some sort of facial scarring and he's blind in one eye. for me personally it's no reason just vibes, in my project he's got some kinda magic sigil under his eye (he can't see through it though obviously)

and like, obviously as a disability it affects how he fights. one of my favorite things about him in vulgate is comparing how he navigates battle and combat in comparison to his brother gawain, he's a lot more careful and discerning in his encounters rather than just going berserker mode. you can see this in agravaine vs druas the cruel, i think

vulgate lancelot part v

he knows his limits, lol

since i made him blind in one eye, he knows his blind spot and his weaknesses. (in my lore he's referred to as sir agravaine the one eyed swordsman for this reason) and he's a lot more calculating and cunning in his fighting style, more relying on wits + terrain (funny the guy with one eye is more observant than most people)

unpopular opinion

nothing i haven't said earlier. for whatever reason he has this reputation for being a crazy misogynist (likely thanks to Fate/grand order because of his infamous over meme'd to the oblivion line about hating women) and also again because of T.H White's depiction of him. and whatever the hell BBC Merlin did to him.

i just really hate that kind of depiction of him and honestly? there's worse characters. breuse sans pite's whole thing is being a rapist, and geraint/erec spends the entire time in his respective romances brutalizing his wife enid.

free my man agravaine he doesn't deserve this slander 😭or at the very least, i would like to have more nuanced portrayals of him for variety.

favorite picture of them

really love this image of him from the short story by P.G Wodehouse. really cute short story about agravaine!!

[oneshoulderangel]

Gareth and Lynette is quite the emotional rollercoaster ride. Brace yourself Laurel.

[winter-at-himring]

Alright. Tell me of your retelling

Well, I’ve decided to pull bits and pieces that I like from other stories and tweak some things as it suits me. Here’s a list of things:

- Mordred will be more of a hero, as he was characterized in some of the earliest stories.

- For the Arthur-Guenevere-Launcelot love triangle, I’m making Guenevere the bad guy.

- Sir Ector fought with Aurelius Ambrosius to help put him back on the throne.

- Arthur’s first wife will be Lyonors, the daughter of Earl Sanam. A few years into their marriage, she bears him a son, named Borre. A year or so after that, she dies, leaving Arthur to struggle with raising his son and being king. At the urging of the older, more pretentious knights, he gets engaged to Guenevere. This causes a lot of other things.

- Laurel will be the cousin of Lynette and Lyonesse.

- Uther is “friends” with Merlin. It starts with Uther just pretending to be friends with him, needing his powers, but then it becomes genuine. However, he’s possessive of him, needing him to be his friend.

- Sir Bors has Autism Spectrum Disorder.

- The order of the Orkney siblings goes like this: Gawain, Soredamors, Agravaine and Clarissant (twins), Gaheris, Gareth, and Mordred. (There may be one more sibling added, Elayne.)

- Sir Gawain’s squire, Yvonet, is incredibly loyal to him, and, even after Yvonet becomes a knight himself, if it comes down to it, he will act as Gawain’s squire rather than a knight.

- Dinadan had a lover who was a Leanan Sidhe, an Irish vampire who gives inspiration to poets and musicians. Usually, a Leanan Sidhe shares with their lovers their intelligence, magic, and creativity, and when the Leanan Sidhe leaves, their lover dies from grief. The Leanan Sidhe then took their lover’s body to their lair and puts their blood in a cauldron, which is the source of their inspiration and beauty. So, when Dinadan ran away from home, he travelled a bit and met one. He was in a relationship with her, but he discovered the cauldron. His admiration turned to disgust as he learned what she was. He managed to get away and never went back to Ireland.

- Guenevere was the reason Dinadan died. She wanted to make Launcelot believe in her, so she told him that Dinadan was going to die. He didn’t believe her, but she used her powers to possess Agravaine, who was on a quest with Dinadan to end the previously mentioned Leanan Sidhe’s rein in Ireland. They were heading back when Agravaine attacked the already injured Dinadan. When Agravine awoke from the possession, he rushed Dinadan back to Camelot, where he died in Launcelot’s arms.

That’s about all I can think of for now. Thanks for asking; have a great day!