#leda calypso

[wainwrightjakobshammerlock]

leda calypso and margaret jakobs yuri. hit post

[scrap-brainzone]

look at my elaborate siren lore boy

[mauserfrau]

First off, I love your work. Please prepare yourself for a stream of consciousness onslaught of comments and compliments: Your Calypso Twin lore is top notch. HOLY CRAP, I love when you write Leda. Also, I need to push your Typhon off a cliff and see him pin-ball rock to rock on the way down. Your writing style is SO COOL (I wish I had the wherewithal to convey everything I appreciate about your style at the moment, but 'SO COOL' is the best I'm capable of right now, apologies.) That Siren lore of yours? Brilliant, I say, brilliant!

Now for the part of this Ask where I actually ask something; May I know more of your Siren lore? I don't have a specific set of questions, just anything and everything you want to share.

Thank you for your time and the Grand Feast of Fics on AO3 :)

OMG HI

XD

I've been watching you kudo your way through Grimeverse. I'm so happy you're enjoying it! My goodness. Did I mention I love stream-of-consciousness comments? I love them. I also loved writing Leda, and I'm a little sad that's a finite thing in Borderlands fic.

The way Typhon's written is loosely based off of my maternal grandfather (bad grandpa); the scene in Satellite with Troy asks him if he loves him actually happened to my mother. She approved including it because she loved Troy to bits, possibly a little bit because he had a dad like hers.

Now for the bad news. I can't share a lot more of the Siren lore than I've posted because parts of Grimeverse are a collaboration with someone else and I don't want to spoil them :X. IRL has delayed this a smidge, but we have plans. Terrible plans. Plans involving megafauna and chaos. And porn, but I guess that goes without saying.

However! I can defo show you the kennings for some of the other canon Sirens.

Phasecommand Efflorescence; Proof of Life

Phasewalk The Harp Eternal, Seeking-Beyond

Phaselock Broken Symmetry, The Void, The Abyss; any number of very technical quantum mechanical terms which made initial translations very difficult

Phaseshift Crystal-Fall, Matters of Logic

Phasetrance Knowledge of Self, Ever-Wondering

Sirens in general Wasteland, One Who's Crossed Over, Unknown Space, a character used similarly to X in human math problems, otherwise known as a Siren pointer mark

I want to give one to Vex from 4 too, even though she probably won't be appearing in Grimeverse. But like, how do I top "Phase Covenant"?

Thank you again for reading! You totally made my week dinging me today.

[trashiyama-fucker]

tyreen: troy’s dead.

typhon: you know what i always say; better off without ‘em!

[border-spam]

Q: Do you think Typhon was an abusive father? He says he was a 'third rate dad' but doesnt explain why. Randy said he refused to touch Tyreen after Leda died. His reaction to killing his kids could just be bad writing. Troy said he thought he was a freak, but that could be Troy's insecurity. Our only evidence is what Typhon and the Twins say, but Typhon is suspicious already and the Twins are shown to be manipulative. Was Typhon a clueless father trying his best or an abusive asshat?

Hooo boy. Been sitting on this one a while. In we go. 

Was Typhon DeLeon an abusive father: A nerd essay by me, cause I’m a sad fuck.

Yeah. He was. 100%. Absolutely.

Just not intentionally, and for reasons that were coming from good places. I can’t stand Typhon but I’m going to remain relatively unbiased in this bar insulting him as much as possible cause fuck Typhon. Eww.

Bl3 left us with shockingly little information to go on when it came to figuring out how all this went down, how Typhon’s upbringing or lack thereof of the Calypso Twins warped them into the broken monstrous Gods they became, and if he was actually really to blame or not.

We have four main players in this puzzle. Typhon, Troy, and Tyreen DeLeon, and Leda Calypso. One of these characters didn’t get a single line of dialogue and was reduced to being a fucktoy attached to a womb, so poor Leda is out of the equation.

We have a third party write up on Typhon released after the game containing a lot of content that was never in the game, including some of his logic behind the choices he made here.

And finally, we have the information given to us by the three remaining characters. Typhon, and the Calypso Twins.

Breaking this down further, we have two characters at odds with each other, Typhon and Tyreen. 

Tyreen hates Typhon. Hates. It can’t be stressed enough that the only motivation the writers left in the game for poor Ty, was how much she hated her father. Tyreen however, is also a grade A dramaqueen and someone who I cannot bring myself to trust completely when it comes to her describing how Typh treated the twins. I am positive everything she says is based on a truth, but how much of it has been over exaggerated and built on after years of brooding and hatred is up to us to work out, and that’s quite hard to do.

Typhon on the other hand, is a grade A bullshitter. We learn this through his logs and through actually just *talking* to the vile little prick. He speaks in anecdotes, he relies on constantly retelling stories to communicate. I wouldn’t trust the little shit as far as I could throw him. He constantly exaggerates his accolades, his sexual prowess, likely how much his wife was infatuated with him, his skill in adventuring, everything, but he still confirms he was not a good father, so that really says a lot. 

Finally, we have the only person I actually trust when it comes to their opinion on this. Finally, we have Troy.

Something I’ve noticed after chatting with friends about this and covering old content, is how little Troy Calypso ever seems to lie or bullshit. He is shockingly honest, it’s a real surprise compared to Tyreen. He’s truthful to the vault hunters, his emotions are pretty much worn on his sleeve around Ty, and even in dialogue with the likes of Katagawa he is direct and not nearly as “flowery” in his communication as she is. 

He hates the majority of the COV followers and shows a complete lack of coddling them, and he does the same with the VH and raiders. He’s direct in his communication in general, especially when alone and out of persona.

Troy gives us more backstory about the twin’s family life than literally any other point in the game does, and he explains it genuinely, 1:1 and privately to the VH over echocom. He has no reason to lie. There is no gain in this for him, there is no grounds for me to think anything he said was false because lying in this situation wouldn’t match his established character. 

Troy does not hate Typhon. 

Troy did not want to leave Nekrotafeyo. 

Troy did not want to leave his father.

The info Troy shares with us is that Typhon couldn’t let Ty out of his sight after Leda had her “accident”, and he was overbearing in his worry for her. Troy was sidelined as a child and felt that his father just saw him as a freak while doting (unwantedly it seems) on Tyreen. This may not have been directly the case, but again, there is no reason to think Troy is making this up. He doesn’t make up things like this for pity, he actually seems quite averse to looking for pity in general.

Tyreen says Typhon kept them in a cage, that he was afraid the Bandits in the universe would tear them apart, and instead held them prisoner. This is semi factual, but definitely blown out of proportion because again, Troy doesn’t feel this way. Typhon (according to the additional info in the writeup I linked) was terrified of what corporations would do to twin Sirens -considering one is male-, and that’s a really valid concern.

They would absolutely be hunted by the likes of Hyperion if Jack hadn’t been balls deep in his mad rush for the warrior at the time. Typh wouldn’t let them leave home based on this, and while I can understand his logic, there are three main things to consider here:

Troy and Tyreen both seem to think Typhon thought Ty was a monster and that was the reason they were not allowed leave. That is fucked. There is no way they both came up with this out of the blue, and Typhon must have at some point said something or acted in a way to imply this was the reason. That is horrific. That is beyond abusive to say to children, and it was definitely a factor in how warped their mentality towards themselves over time became.

The twins were so terrified of Typhon finding the ship parts Troy was working on and destroying them, that they hid them inside their mothers grave. Again. This is horrific. This is not something young adults who aren’t abused would consider doing. Troy has never alluded to hating Typhon and still agreed with Tyreen this needed to be done. The fear there is palpable, this is not the behavior of young adults who’s relationship with a parent is healthy.

The twins and Typhon had a complete lack of trust between them. A family with this level of distrust has encountered abuse at some point. Typhon was so distrusting of his near adult children ( the twins sounded very late teens - early twenties on Nekro ) that he refused to allow them to have any semblance of a life. He refused to let them be free, because he so feared they would either be incapable of caring for themselves, or would hurt others. The twins distrusted their father so much that they had to resort to hiding their escape means from him. Even Troy, who thought once the ship was complete they’d be taking Typhon with them, didn’t trust him enough to let him know what he was working on. They were afraid of what their father would do if he found out. 

This dynamic drips abuse. If it was just Tyreen telling this information to us, I’d find it hard to take as factual as I said earlier, it would feel blown out of proportion, but Troy telling us, and the echologs existing and backing it up? Well, it’s not a lie. It did happen.

The final piece for me is how Typhon responded to Troy being dead. 

He couldn’t have fucking cared less. He did not give a flying shit. 

The one person who had shown any regret towards leaving him, who had cared about him, and Typhon didn’t bat an eyelid that he was dead. He gives an “Ah well he was a monster anyway lol” response, then immediately starts trying to baby talk his wittle girl, his ickle Starlight. It’s gross. It was vile.

It really showed where his value lay and had always lay, and confirmed Troy had been telling the truth when he’d awkwardly tried to explain how Typhon had just always seen him as a freak, while overly doting on Tyreen to the point of smothering her. 

He was a terrible father, and while his abuse came from a place of concern and love, it was absolutely abuse. 

Had he so much as tried to find his kids, had he cared about them an iota more then sitting on a dead planet jacking off to memories of his wife for nearly a decade, the twins might have stood a chance. They might have been able to be happy.

Asks are open!

[allegedlyxen]

Leda being alive and typhon being dead is way more of a borderlands type twist than “oh fuck my fuckin wife died so i abused my kids”

you can’t tell me that the game teasing about typhon being alive and then you get to nekrotafeyo and Leda is there like “yo i’ve been trapped here since my kids left and also my husband has been dead for years” wouldn’t be WAY cooler than typhon just, being alive.

i’m honestly THIS close to rewriting the twins backstory to include leda living instead of typhon

[raidbossmadi]

PLU: Mama Who Bore Us

Sold to the Atlas corporation at birth, Leda spent most of her early life as a corporate Siren lapdog to the Atlas corporation. Her handlers, members of the Eridian artifact requisition team who she was raised to see as her parents gave her the last name Calypso in reference to the daughter of the titanic Atlas, whether this was them being cruel or clever is up for debate.

Always clever herself Leda gave the Atlas researchers that cared for her a run for their money with her ever inquisitive mind. She questioned even her own Siren abilities and longed to know more about the natural world that was at her beck and call.

Having read stories of what happened when you poorly socialised a siren Leda’s childhood was mostly uneventful and she was allowed to interact with the children of the Atlas employee’s the only active research being done on her being tests of her power and genetic sequencing. Atlas had wanted a Siren for war but they realized that what they had was infinitely more valuable when Leda picked up the Eridian language and ran with it.

In her teen years Leda had a rebellious streak, trying to run away from the Atlas tower and got her first reminder that while she allowed freedoms Atlas considered her property. She had her Atlas asset number tattooed on the back of her neck and was fitted with a compliance collar usually only used on penal workers. This curbed her rebellious behaviour though at the back of her mind she knew one day she would escape Atlas control.

After being allowed to pursue a college education she attended Promethea University and majored in Galactic anthropology while minoring in Xenolinguistics, at the time of her graduation she was considered the person most fluent in Eridian this side of the six galaxies. Upon graduation she was conscripted into an Atlas Eridian Artifacts research team and sent across the galaxy to acquire knowledge about the lost civilisation and the vaults they built so that Atlas might lay claim to what was inside them. Leda of course had different motivations. Guided by Hesperia, the last bearer of her siren power, Leda was guided to Athenas to meet Siren Queen Dido. Dido warned her that as long as she was under the thumb of Atlas the knowledge she sought would be lost to her, but gave her a book written in Eridian and told her to hide it amongst her things, it was for her and her alone.

The book turned out to be the diary of Demeter, the Firstborn Nature Siren and in it detailed the life of the firstborn Siren and after Leda’s interest in the content she had written, Demeter came forth from the aether to speak to Leda directly. Demeter told her of their missing sister, whom she had loved beyond words and the treachery of the other firstborns that saw her love sealed away forever.

Leda knew what she was destined to do. This would be the push she needed to break her chains, she knew who she had to find to get her where she needed to be. It was too easy to crash the drop pod on Pandora and make her crewmates disappear never to be heard of again. She sought the one civilian Atlas had a file on that was as detailed as the one they had kept for her, Typhon Deleon, the man who found the vaults.

Her intent had been to use him to get what she wanted, a stepping stone in her plans that would be cast off when she no longer needed him. What she did not plan for however, was that this strange little man who saw the world so differently than the cold and calculated handlers she’d known her whole life behind Atlas walls. She scarcely knew what love was and yet she found herself falling head over heels in it. They were an odd couple, everyone who met them could attest to that but they worked. The vault hunter and the siren, none of their friends could disagree that they were a perfect match. They would talk for hours about topics even their most scholarly friends would end up losing the point on. When it was all said and done, they married after finishing their map to Nekrotafeyo said their goodbyes and took off into the great dark beyond.

The Centurion was an older transport class ship, nowhere near as impressive as the likes of Montgomery Jakobs “Family Jewel”  but it had a class 2 laboratory and medbay on board so it suited the needs of the couple just nicely. Typhon had said the ship had been in his family for decades and Leda could believe that.

As populated space disappeared behind them and travel continued they discussed the one thing Leda had never thought would be on the table: starting a family. They had never intended to stay on Nekrotafeyo, the plan was to go, explore, and see if the vault of the serpent truly held the lost siren. So the idea of escaping into the vast expanse of space after that, raising children among the stars, it was quickly becoming a goal Leda realized she wanted so they began to try for children.

What they did not expect was Nekrotafeyo’s gravity to be as strong as it was, the miscalculation combined with the Centurions age led to a rough landing destroying the landing gear and several important navigation tools as well as damaging the left engine. The reactor still worked so they had access to all the amenities of the starship but they were stranded unless they could set aside time for the dedicated repairs. There was much to explore on the planet though so they set it aside for a future problem.

Before long Leda was travelling from ruin to ruin translating the Eridian runes that survived all this time and examining their complex crystalline machinery that responded to her powers if she tried hard enough. Typhon built them a suitable home in the shadow of the Centurion out of scrap metal he had in the cargo hold and before long they realized they liked life away from the people who would use them for their specialized abilities and talents. Furthermore, though they had still not located the vault of the serpent they had a new discovery that was equally as exciting; Leda was pregnant.

Typhon had hoped that his wife would settle down in pregnancy worried for the safety of their unborn children however it only spurred Leda to continue her search for the missing vault. They found it and went to battle with the Serpent, a seven headed vault monster (demigod) that was ultimately defeated. In opening the vault released the spirit of Nyriad, the lost siren so frightened she latched to the first unclaimed female presence she felt, the unborn Tyreen.  Unaware that her daughter being the bearer of the siren power would have adverse effects on her unborn son Leda assumed that things would be fine from here on out, she had done what she had set out to do. Everything else was icing on the cake.

Of course it would not be the easy ‘retirement’ the twins were discovered to be conjoined close to their due date and Tern opted to perform an emergency C-section then and there to prevent losing them both. When the twins were delivered no one expected Troy to make it more than a few days. He was struggling to survive outside an isolette and despite being fed he wasn’t gaining weight.  As if guided by an instinct Leda desperate to keep her son alive offered a tiny bit of her power to her son and when his little red marked fingers crossed the glowing blue of her markings her offered power flowed into her son and his little red marking flared to life for the first time since he’d been cut from his sister.

She was so relieved, her children would make and she would give them the world. In the end of course she gave them so much more than that.

[norppalia]

No new content from me for now but, colored in that sketch i did a while back :’)