#manipulation mention

[fictionfolk-safehaven]

Shout out to the fictives from "cringe" sources by the way. Particularly those who have genuine moral issues with their source, when their source was seemingly mostly silly, badly written, or somehow a source that you wouldn't expect to have moral issues with.

My source was Minecraft Diaries. A silly little Minecraft roleplay that, as far as I know, was mostly geared towards a younger audience. We barely remember canon, it was an old fandom of ours in childhood, but what we do remember was mostly unserious or very trope-y. I was a villain. I don't remember my motives or actions in canon, but I do remember my personal canon. In my personal canon, I was terrible. I broke into people's minds to change their memories to manipulate them. I committed what would undeniably be considered crimes against the laws of nature, and I did so gleefully. My worldview was shaped by my home, and my home taught me that everyone was a horrible person and I acted accordingly. I viewed the world as a threat, so I became one.

Generally, I was a sort of "eldritch horror" in the sense that I was powerful in ways one should not be. In my source media, however, I was probably more like a cartoon villain. Once again; poor memory, just guessing.

So shout out to fictives who have similar experiences. There are others out there.

-Zane

[solardontcare]

HYBRIDHEALTH THEORIES

Lalala mfw Mae UGGHHYESSSS THE SUFFERER

Fuckass hidden text okay

"for once I was not seen as an aggressor, but as a victim" : I believe this is related to Maes (assumed) Candycraze, or other-related need for blood, before the hospital this "disease" as it was called, this problem was fearful, making Mae seem violent, unpredictable, dangerous.

I believe Mae was admitted to the hospital, whether it be by family (if he has any), forcibly, or by his own accord (was he afraid of himself? His urges?) as a patient, but whoever runs the hospital took pity on him, he wasn't a monster, he didn't need help, "I was not shamed, but praised." Gifted with acceptance, grace, and love. Something his "issue" doesn't allow for in the normal society. He was praised for being able to identify and diagnose patients without criteria, he was praised for his resilience, his apathy of patients as people but also enthusiasm at having a steady supply of blood.

"Forever indebted and grateful" this is something many victims of abuse believe when someone less harmful, or more manipulative believe. Mae was saved from being treated as a rabid animal, sure. But this hospital isn't good, and I doubt the owner of it is either. Mae is a tool, an asset. He's been told he's important and irreplaceable, and now he's dependent

Something something uhhhh it's all a metaphor for NPD Mae has NPD and also everyone has NPD a- (gets shot)

[diabotsis]

My wiiife had the audacity (all jokes) to ask me whether this was blaise debeste or ghetsis and I was like "ghetsis literally talks like this in Pokémon evolutions"

The video is just some guy finding a girl in a garden and calmly explaining to her how, because she broke his sons heart, he found every one of her ancestors descendants and everyone she ever interacted with in her life and implied that he killed them all. And then threw her in jail without ever showing her proof.

[moths-wc-aus]

R U KIDDING ME

"i was groomed and manipulated by my mother almost since birth."

"well thats your own fault because you decided to be manipulated and groomed."

BITE BITE BITE KILL KILL KILL

[cadetterrified]

Ok, genuine question mutuals and followers and misc freaks:

What's a feature about a character (personality trait, methods, dynamic, etc.) that you love in fiction and hate irl?

Tag anyone you think would be interested, my irl friends were talking about this earlier and I'm curious: @greythewulf @demonicchicken1121 @dxrkvibez @connectionterminated13 @lajohrawraef @wonderful-bellies (anyone can join I'm just too intimidated by most of my mutuals to tag them)

[borderline-culture-is]

Manipulation ment //

BPD + psychosis culture is being unsure if your fp's joyfriend is manipulative or if you're just unsubconciously having an episode of bpd and jealousy because every time they do something you try to flirt with your fp or something.

(It doesn't help that your other fp and partner also see red flag with the joyfriend)

The bonus BPD culture is that matches, if thats true then i need to protect them!!!! My fp!! But i know its a situation where its better to do nothing.

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[dear-shaun]

So, I saw a Tiktok recently of a young person who had been in a relationship with a much older person and I wanted to talk about it.

According to their story, they were homeless at 18 and suffering from some medical issues when a person who was 90 met them. The older person offered them a home, stating they didn't want to be alone and they ended up getting married to them.

They, by their own admission, consummated the marriage and that they had "grown to love" this person.

They also then defended this person by saying they were not a groomer. However, it was followed up by talking about all the things this person gave them that they needed.

And to be clear. This person was a groomer. Or at the very least, incredibly manipulative.

This person was 18 years old, homeless, suffering. And an older person took advantage of that. I doubt this 18 year old would have married and slept with a 90 year old had they had a home and security. I doubt this 18 year old would have married a 90 year old and had to "grow to love" them if they had a home and security.

Grooming and manipulative relationships can look like all kinds of things. They're not always the typical "older man is using a younger woman for sex."

Sometimes, they can be a seemingly just lonely woman putting a young man in a position where he has to be in a relationship with her to avoid being back out on the street.

He talks about her as though she's his savior, which is understandable. He was experiencing something horrific that she took away from him. But these actions were not selfless. This was not an act of charity. This was someone using someone's situation to get what they wanted, intentionally or not.

[ghostonly]

9 times out of 10, if someone accuses you of being ungrateful, it has nothing to do with you showing gratitude wrong and everything to do with them never wanting to help in the first place.

More often than not, "you're ungrateful," is literally just code for one of these:

"I did something for you because I felt obligated to and I now blame you for my past inability to set my own boundaries."

"I did something for you and expected you to do something of equal value for me immediately after, without ever stating that expectation, and you didn't hold up your end of the deal I decided we made."

"I did something for you because I felt morally obligated to and, because the entire situation you're in that caused me to feel that way wasn't immediately resolved by my act of charity, I've decided that you're actually doing this on purpose to extort people's time, energy, and resources."

"I did something for you because I'm a good person and you didn't adequately sing my praises and boost my ego to everyone we know, which is what any normal person would do if they were gifted with my invaluable services."

"I did something for you and expected you to do things for me in return, but your lower class and lack of resources means you have nothing of value to offer me in return, so you're therefore unable to pay your debts for my services, regardless of if you've wasted your time doing things for me that I deem worthless."

"I did something for you and expected this to mean undying loyalty and subservience, but you've dared to disagree with something I said, refuse one of my demands, or treat me as an equal when you needing my help made me superior."

So basically, if someone calls you ungrateful when you've actually put in an effort to show gratitude (like saying Thank You, expressing appreciation, etc.), they were never looking for gratitude to begin with. They're simply using gratitude as a way of making their sour feelings your fault when what they're actually upset about is that their attempt at insincere help didn't gain them anything.

In simpler terms: they're selfish.

People who genuinely care and genuinely want to help don't do so expecting something in return.

If someone wants something in return, they should state that right away, making the entire thing transactional and not an act of help, charity, or assistance.

The same goes for people who say you took advantage of them when you only accepted what was offered.

It is your responsibility, when you offer something (time, energy, money, resources), to make sure that what you're offering is something you actually want to share out of the goodness of your heart.

If you don't put down any boundaries regarding your offered help or resources, it is not the fault of the person you offered them to for not determining your boundaries for you.