Just wanted to say thanks for giving a fuck and being an ally to the virago community. The hate we’ve been receiving has been fucking exhausting and soulsucking. So many assumptions are being made about us left and right and it feels like people have already made up their mind about us before even getting to know us at all. Like that our gender nonconformity or identity as a whole must be surface level or trivial or nonconsequential or even malicious. we’re just a hypothetical concept to them, not real people. And I get the feeling that a lot of the antis just go into this already with the presupposition that we’re just ‘whiny straight women who want to be oppressed so bad ‘ and that surely there couldn’t possibly be anything fundamentally different about our gender and orientation experience from other heterosexual people that we might want to have language for so we can talk about it finally (not to mention not all of us are straight anyway, some are bi.) The assumption that us being heterosexual just automatically means we’re granted the same social privilege as cishetnorm people, totally disregarding that we’re also gnc, and that we couldn’t possibly face any sort of discrimination or isolation or violence is just so confidently wrong. They haven’t seen the mountain of anon messages in our community of people thanking posters profusely for showing them they aren’t the only one in the world like them and there isn’t something wrong with them, who tell the exact same life story, where they spent their whole life being treated like a monster and a freak of nature and horrific stories of lifelong bullying and abuse just for the intersection of their gender nonconformity with their attraction to men. i say intersection because the combination of the two is a totally different experience than just being one or the other and i feel like people are missing that. The hetnorm straight people tell us we don’t belong with them and the queer community tells us we don’t belong with them… so before our community the only other option was to disappear. we’re too rare to know anyone else like us irl and finding each other online was like this insane miracle, and also a super new thing. The humble luxury and joy of having someone else to relate to and understand you was something most of us were experiencing for the first time ever. It has been fucking devastating to not be able to do anything but watch as that has all fallen apart at the seams and burned and crumbled before our eyes after we became the Latest Controversial Topic on tumblr. The people who think we’re “just straight who want a special label” don’t get it. We spend our whole lives feeling like and being treated like frankensteins monster and then we FINALLY find others like ourselves and build a precious space where we’re safe to exist and then one day people take one look at us and decide we’re evil and need to be chased out of even that space too with fire and pitchforks. And idk we’re used to that kind of reaction from heteronormative ppl but to have OTHER queer people belittling us and mocking us and sending us threats and doxing people is just so bleak and hopeless feeling. And it feels like we can’t even defend ourselves publicly because we’re outnumbered and it will only stoke the fire. So I guess what im saying is thanks for being a voice for us right now. dealing with the hate feels a bit easier when you know there’s at least one person who cares to call it out and make an actual effort to understand us
I hear you and I’m so sorry that the virago community has been going through a shitstorm of trolls, exclusionists, separatists, and bigots. Especially when there’s been so much harassment from cisheterosexual people against virago individuals already, to have queer peoples who are expected to be safe spaces for non-conformity—attack you like this…I absolutely understand the heartbreak.
It is beautiful that all of you have built this community and have resilience in one another. Never lose that. And I hope more allies show up for your community too! I know I will keep defending you beautiful folks.
From what I’ve seen, many of these critics have nothing of value to justify their hateful attacks against the virago community.
And on a side note, I believe other viragos have also brought up that calling themselves a “bi butch” had incurred so much violence and backlash online and offline, that they’ve called themselves ‘virago’ to specifically curtail this reaction.
This leads me to suspect a part of this does come from femphobia, bimisogyny, biphobia, misogyny, mascphobia and butchphobia (and other bigotries involving discrimination against GNC folks).
Such that there’s a desire to own and be entitled to the autonomous gender expressions and sexuality of another. Where it commodifies masculinity or femininity in a person for the benefit of oneself. And this leads to discrimination when say, a masculine woman is not entirely “reserved” for a specific population, but has a preference for others.
It seems to also echo the same anti-masculinity, mascphobia and butchphobia, when non-butches and non-mascs disparage butch4butch or masc4masc.
It echoes femphobia, when non-fem/mes disparage fem/mes and even butches for not presenting ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’ in the way the viewer wants. The crime apparently, is having any autonomy at all in deciding for yourself, who you are.
It is echoes how when any person has a preference that excludes a group on a non-discriminatory basis—some entitled fuckhead will crop up to bully them.
And as always, some queer separatists keep searching for a new marginalised group to pin “proximity to cisheteronormativity” on, and to disparage. It’s selfish and pathetic bullying for their own egos and for THEM to feel secure in their queerness (which says a lot about their relationship to queerness actually).
It is reheated nachos again and again, always finding a new group to hate. What sucks further is that they never bother to hold a conversation with the peoples who identify as such, center their voices, and humanise them.
This is not the virago community’s fault. Please stay safe and well all of you! And please take breaks as well. This can be so exhausting to go through and you should all know what these folks say is never a true reflection of your right to belong in the queer community.