Anyway here is some angsty sketches cuz my dumbass put on a sad playlist 😀
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Anyway here is some angsty sketches cuz my dumbass put on a sad playlist 😀
Okay, now whump Hiccup slowly going insane(/absolutely neg [fitting in any scenario, maybe when he's pretty young or after the third movie]) to the point of murdering/harming someone for minimal reasons/reasons that really don't justify his aggression, and when confronted about it he can't really tell what he did wrong and that happens over and over again until they have to forcefully exile him, tying him up and throwing him on a boat to die, if he bumps into Viggo's island or any other thing it's up to you
Also, I really like your fics! I wasn't much of a whump person but I kinda warmed up to it? Idk, there's just something really appealing about putting characters into situations :) (this is also Wisdom's new acc, I was kinda shy to reach out before :p)
Hello! Sorry if I'm intimidating at all. I try my best to be kind and welcoming! Thank you for sending this! Genuinely!
I don't think I have time to write this and my requests are currently closed, but I have fiddled with this idea in my head sometimes. Hiccup Haddock, we want to play with your psyche. And by "play with your psyche", I mean demolish you and turn you into more of a madman than you already were. And like, psychologically speaking, this is not out of the question to happen. This literally happens to people.
I feel like I would want to put some sort of comfort and happy ending in there. Like, maybe Viggo is someone who somehow doesn't set off his murderous irritation. It would have to probably be a "write and find out" situation.
I have accidentally dragged many people into whump! Welcome! The character has to be in situations. Horrible situations. For their enrichment. You understand.
So, again, thank you! I love sharing ideas. It's what keeps fandom going!
On a scale of one to ten how painful do you think the ninth wave would currently be at this exact moment for someone whose read ur other fics but is also like. Emotionally fragile to angsty cliffhangers. Bc oh my god I’m so scared. Esp bc u mentioned there wouldn’t be any plans of miscarriage etc in the last fic but idk if that means it would happen in this one. Just wanna get a little idea before I do that to myself if possible Ty
I feel like I am a very biased person to ask, but I would say….maybe a 6? No one is having a great time right now but things are at a slightly stable point (at least by the end of the most recent chapter). No plans for miscarriage or major character death in this fic, I can say that for sure.
I did tear up a little writing Alfred’s scene today, but that was mostly because I just love him so much. He’s so dear to this Pack, it makes me crazy sometimes.
could we all please start tagging MCD properly?
if i have to look at another post of ghost waking up to an empty bed with no warning i will combust
it only takes a few seconds to put the additional "cw mcd", "mcd" or "major character death" tag on your post, so please do it
here’s a concept: immortal jaskier with the survival rate of a pet hamster.
he sneezes and fucking passes away but no one notices him just go through 37836:8262737 deaths because, well, those things normally don’t kill anyone.
then one day something happens like he falls off a cliff or something and geralt is horrified to see what’s happened only to hear jaskier yell DAMN, GERALT, IT’S BEEN A FEW DECADES SINCE I’VE HAD SOMETHING *THIS* NASTY HAPPEN TO ME…. MY DOUBLET IS RUINED…. RUINED I TELL YOU. and he looks down to see jaskier just putting his ribs back in place like nothing’s wrong with that and just. having the general vibes of this image
There are two things I am hyperfixated on rn, MCD and Pokemon, so here is my new little yarn holder!
Now if only someone could get me the pokemon violet dlc and then may I finally know peace.
I NEED you to know that your Family reconizes Family is makeing me LOSE MY MIND. Ive been rereading it and it hit me, in the beginning, when superboy died, WAS THAT SUPERMAN DID SUPERMAN TRY AND KILL SUPERBOY PLEASE IM LOSING IT I AM CLIMBING UP THE WALLS WITH THE IMPLICATIONS AND THE FORESHADOWING
Oh man oh boy.
I’ll be touching on that more next part with Robin!! Who is the only person who has any idea what happened when Superboy was killed died.
Might have been. Might have been someone else. Or both. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So this last week was OCD Awareness Week and it got me thinking about how in TMNT 2012, Donnie was “confirmed” to have obsessive-compulsive disorder. (A writer who worked on the show confirmed it.) However, as someone with OCD I have never related to Donnie, and I’ve recently been rewatching the series with this knowledge in mind and still have not seen any good evidence of representation from him.
However, I feel like a character that actually displays themes of OCD well is Leo. I will say that my view of Leo’s OCD-coding is more based on his mentality, as opposed to actually showing signs of rituals or anything. This is me acknowledging that in-canon he does not exhibit Actual signs of OCD (neither does Donnie), but rather that his mentality better reflects OCD than Donnie’s does, to the point where I’ve related to Leo at times because of these themes.
There are also aspects that overlap with Leo possibly having ptsd and/or depression in the series, but I am making this analysis to educate you about how OCD works regardless, as I feel there is still something to be learned from headcanons and theories when it comes to analysis. I will also analyze how Donnie’s traits that can be skewed to represent OCD actually better fit a diagnosis of autism, using research provided to me by some friends who are autistic.
Onto the analysis! Starting with Donnie, there were a few traits I was able to identify that could work as OCD. He’s neat and organized, dislikes change, and hyperfixates on his work. He also had that chart to help him ask out April, which shows his need for preparation. However, his chart was in preparation for the sake of a goal, whereas for OCD the “preparation” is like preparing for a tragedy that will never exist. And the chart is being used to avoid social conflict as opposed to his own internal anxiety. These traits are not caused by a need to satisfy intrusive thoughts and compulsions, but are rather how he processes his environment better. Donnie would feel frustrated, off-kilter, and overwhelmed if his routines were messed with. Leo attaches more of a moral weight to the actions in his routines.
So that brings me to how Donnie shows signs of being autistic. He tends to explain things and volunteer information when the situation doesn’t call for it, and especially during dire situations. An interesting parallel is how in Rise of the TMNT, Donnie is canonically autistic; in the Rise Movie Donnie says, “Data collection calms me down.” In the season 2 finale of 2012, Donnie tells Leo that oversharing and being technical is “how I deal with stress!”
Donnie also stims, such as often sticking out his tongue when he works. He is also very particular about the layout of his stuff in his lab, and shows great distress when someone (Mikey) messes with his stuff. He doesn’t want to feel out of control of his environment in his own workspace. He also tends to take things literally, such as when Raph said “Could we pick a more cliche way to get eaten?” sarcastically, and Donnie proceed to list off actual cliches to Raph’s annoyance.
Finally, Donnie sometimes experiences sensory discomfort. When Mikey spilled “greasy popcorn” all over Donnie, Donnie was enraged, noting the fact that it was greasy in particular. Additionally, at a point where all the Turtles get sprayed with monster guts, Donnie’s initial reaction is to ask for hand sanitizer. While washing your hands and being clean is a common OCD trait, Donnie’s concern here is with because of the texture and germs associated.
Leo’s turn!
Okay so before we get to how 2012 Leo is OCD-coded, I want to point out that Leo actually definitely has OCPD in every version except for Rise and you can fight me on that. “Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and control (with no room for flexibility) that ultimately slows or interferes with completing a task;” Leo is consistently portrayed as being a controlling perfectionist. Additionally, “OCPD is a personality disorder, which means it involves personality traits that are stable, long-held, atypical, and problematic in some way. In the case of OCPD, people with this condition may find it hard to relate to others, and their devotion to perfectionism and rigid control can make it difficult to function.” This is Leo to a T. Others around him get annoyed with these traits in him, and these traits make up many of his definitive personality traits across the franchise. This side note aside, we may move on to OCD.
I am reiterating here that my purpose is to show how Leo’s themes as a character and in his story reflect those of obsessive-compulsive disorder and am seeking to analyze and educate based on that. I am not arguing that he canonically has OCD. That being said, his themes align best with the subtype of moral scrupulosity OCD, which has people obsess over the morality of their thoughts and actions and often seek outside help to distinguish the truth.
Some basics of Leo’s character that fit OCD themes: he has several episodes of panic, recurring nightmares about his worst fears, he’s controlling and a perfectionist, and thinks something bad will happen if he isn’t at his best and puts all that pressure on himself alone. People with OCD tend to believe that bad things happen because of certain things that they do or don’t do, regardless of how accurate that belief is (it is not an accurate belief). They also can seem oddly controlling to others as they try to gauge certain no-no actions from those around them. Additionally, in “Fungus Humongous,” Leo says, “I face my fear every day.” OCD is run by fear and paranoia, and we too face our fears every day. Fun fact: I like to watch “Parisitica” and “Fungus Humongous” when I’m feeling low because of how relatable I find Leo’s struggles in them.
FINALE SPOILERS: Finally, a symptom of OCD includes “Aggressive or horrific thoughts about losing control and harming yourself or others,” which I feel parallels in Mutant Apocalypse, when Leo attacks his family in a crazed state. He becomes just like the Shredder at this moment; a direct contradiction to his worst fear of losing them. He becomes double mutated because he chose to save his family over himself.
Examining now how Leo’s struggles line up with the morality theme, it’s like his brain is giving him ultimatums and black and white statements about ‘ok you have to be THIS or else THIS will happen.’ In a smaller scale, he would rather do training “right” than quickly, like in that scene where Leo’s doing his katas slower than his brothers and he makes a jab at them for their ‘poor’ form.’ Another interesting example comes with how he is consistently obsessed with finding and helping Karai throughout the series. He feels an intense sense of responsibility about it, even in situations when it really seems out of their hands, either because of wacky circumstances or because of her own actions. He says he's doing it for Splinter, but Splinter has already reassured him several times that he doesn't NEED to. His obsession conflicts with the interests of literally his entire family; it’s a situation that is linked with his morality. Leo is a very kind person who sees the best in people and wants to help them. Karai is his sister and his father’s daughter; he takes it as his personal responsibility to save her—a savior complex born from this obsession.
Now I wanna talk about Leo’s fears and where he turns to deal with them. OCD thrives off of people “Doubting and having difficulty tolerating uncertainty.” The next few sections includes major spoilers for the season 4 finale as well as talk of Main Character Death, so feel free to skip this section. Season 4’s space arc and events taking place after “Requiem” show intense examples of this for Leo. While a part of his actions here are likely due to ptsd and/or depression, it also parallels well with how OCD works.
Leo often goes to his father for advice. However, in the space arc when he’s separated from Splinter and in season 5 when Splinter is dead, Leo still has a need to seek advice and validation from his father. It is a response of grief, but it’s also his way of feeling like he’s getting guidance in a time when he doesn’t trust himself. This is similar to the reassurance-seeking compulsion, where someone with OCD goes to an outside source to entertain whatever thoughts the OCD has come up with, instead of just letting those thoughts go. Leo talking with Splinter practically every day via hologram in the space arc is his coping mechanism during that time, but even his brothers view it as excessive. It’s as if it’s the only thing tethering him during that time where he has little stability.
Additionally, ruminating is seen in the form of Leo constantly focusing on Splinter’s death, both in the space arc and post-“Requiem.” “OCD obsessions are repeated, persistent and unwanted thoughts, urges or images that are intrusive and cause distress or anxiety;” in “Trans-Dimensional Turtles” in the space arc, Leo is talking with the past version of Splinter and sees a vision of him being stabbed by the Shredder. This flashback is presented as something he is constantly thinking and worried about; very little else consumes his thoughts. The ptsd overlap once again occurs here, but I am pointing out that it is this sort of rumination that people with OCD experience often.
Finally, people with OCD “may try to ignore or stop [their] obsessions, but that only increases [their] distress and anxiety.” In the space arc, Leo is slowly being put through it, until he snaps near the end of the arc, going off on a suicide mission alone when he thinks they’ve been led astray by Fugitoid. No one in his family brought up their concerns for his mental well-being to him, and when not surrounded by his family he expressed his doubts and fears. But most of the time for those 6 months Leo spent in denial, singularly focused on their mission to save Earth and Master Splinter. It wasn’t until that vision was seemingly put in jeopardy that he finally snapped and acted reckless to the point of nearly dying. Leo simultaneously indulged in his obsessions while consciously ignoring their existence while in the presence of others, and that led to him being in great distress.
2012 Donnie is not at all a representation of obsessive-compulsive disorder past being the “smart character,” but he is a good representation of autism, whether intentional or not. Leonardo, while not explicitly being a character with OCD, does carry similar themes that make for a relatable OCD-coded character.
Here’s my contribution to OCD Awareness Week. You are now Aware.
Special Thanks:
@/sailor_the_robot on Insta for practically co-writing this with me. Much of this essay includes direct quotes from her.
@phoenixquill-art for her help as well with Donnie’s analysis!
@mej2235 for beta reading :3
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Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) - Symptoms and causes
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