Hi I was wondering if I could get your opinion on Carlo and P(ino.) I keep going back and forth on if Pino is his own person or if he becomes Carlo. There’s a lot of other stories I’ve seen over the years about a character who died and “became a robot” Astro Boy, Nick Valentine, the replicates from the Blade Runner Universe, not robots but have memories of people, which go into the they’re their own person stuck with someone else’s memories. But in the game people like Lea refer to P as Carlo, even in the true ending Geppetto calls him son, Arelcchino is the first one to refer to him as human (I think) another is when P revives Sophia into puppet I think it’s her she’s just been placed into a puppet. But this why I go back and forth 😅
Hi hi! 👋
Sure! I’m always happy to discuss and talk about Lies of P!
For me it is hard for me to separate P from Carlo, but at the same time I don’t think P is tied to just be Carlo. P is his own experience. He has his own memories, his own understanding with the world, his own relationships with people Carlo met. P has his own story, and is his own person.
But this is where Carlo gets intertwined! Because after all, P has Carlo’s ergo. We hear from Geppetto that P inherited his personality and maybe I would be extrapolating here, but I believe both Antonia and Lea give their own nods on how they feel P’s behavior is very similar to Carlo’s.
So yeah, certainly P has a lot of traits and characteristics that Carlo had, but I would say that is where the line is drawn.
P would never be Carlo, because Carlo himself was a whole set of memories, experiences and feelings to which P don’t have access to. And even if he at any moment recovered Carlo’s memories, if he got to feel and reenact any of those experiences from his past life, that would never erase all the moments that P has already lived by himself. Like there would be no overriding of his personality at all.
On the other hand, P would represent another stage in both their lives. A combination of both, but the truth is he cannot be Carlo anymore. He’s matured, grown, taken his own path.
Carlo represented his human life and what it entailed, while P is the next stage in his existence. His heart persisted, but it’s time to walk on another path. But again, this would also not just completely erase who Carlo was. After all he is the base of who P is, he would just be in a more matured headspace to know it’s time to continue with life.
As for the people who call P Carlo like Lea for example, I think it’s just the fact that she doesn’t have any other way to call him! 😄 she just saw his cherished apprentice face and I doubt she would really be familiar with ergo phenomenons like this, so Carlo it is!
Same for Romeo when he calls us Carlo. He thinks his friends ego awoke with memories and then he realized the memories were still locked, but in my eyes he was calling the ergo directly hence why he mentions Carlo’s name. Also he doesn’t know what else to call him!
As for Geppetto I think during the whole game is more of a manipulation thing and to keep appearances with the people from the hotel, sadly only understanding that even without his memories, P loved him as much as Carlo did and that he rightfully was his son to, being a mix of Carlo and just by himself.
And yeah! For Sophia, she clearly remembers who she was before dying to in her case it would be a very direct continuation of who she was, but at the same, ready to move into a next step into her existan existence, as human Sophia is gone and she would never get to experience life just as she did in the past.
Anyways, I think I overextended a bit 😅, but I hope I was able to provide a good perspective on this! And I feel you, I’ve also been comparing P’s situations to others we see from other media! It certainly raises a lot of questions!
But yeah, for me P deserves to be treated as his own person! (While holding with him Carlo’s personality and sleeping memories with him 🥹)
And also thanks for asking!
