The Short Answer? Because Minden isn't a Film character, and thus can't exist outside of the show. 😢
The Long Answer? Because Minden cannot leave the island.
Do not forget that she is a Wingmaiden. As such, she cannot leave the island for as long as the Razorwhips exist.
Since Wingmaidens spend their whole lives, or at least their entire maidenhoods (a period when a woman can marry and have kids before they get too old) caring for and protecting the Razorwhip dragon population. Since this would be a major decision and undertaking that cannot be reversed once made, let us assume that they're similar to many religious sects where newcomers have a grace period to see if this is right for them or not before they become full-fledged clergy members of a sect or congregation. As such, new Wingmaidens could have up to 6 months to learn the ropes and decide if this is for them or not.
With that logic, Minden, being Atali's right hand and obviously having been a Wingmaiden for a long time, cannot leave, as a result. Even if their customs allow for women to leave once they turn 40, it would still be a long time. However, since we're talking about an organization that exists to keep Razorwhips safe and their existence a secret, it might very well be that once a woman becomes a full-fledged Wingmaiden, she's there for life.
And since men aren't allowed to live on the island, Snotlout can't stay except for short visits. And obviously s*x is out of the question, since any man smell can affect a Wingmaiden's interactions with the female Razorwhips, who have instincts to be hostile against any male on account of their male counterparts being hostile towards their hatchlings and are even known for eating them. So it's likely that any male scent on a Wingmaiden could endanger a young Razorwhip from being accepted by their mother.
Of course, I'm just assuming due to the information we've been given by Atali. Though much is still unknown about how they operate and their rules and customs.
So, because of this, and because Minden isn't a Film character, Minlout is forever doomed to be star-crossed lovers. 😭
However, I have an article that will detail possible scenarios about how they CAN get together. (Click Here)
Hope you guys enjoyed my article on Minlout. Have a wonderful weekend!
Continuing from my previous post (here), this post will focus on how to get Minlout together while being semi-loyal to the canon.
Are you ready? Let's go!
Scenario #1: Razorwhips Leave or Are Extinct
With the Razorwhips gone, one way or the other, there is now no reason left to stay on the island. Wingmaidens can either stay on the island and form a Tribe, or they can return to their homes and families and marry into other Tribes.
Either way, this leaves Minden free to marry a certain Lout. 😏
Scenario #2: Minden Has Amnesia
In this scenario, Minden loses her memory and is separated from her Tribe, her island, and her baby Razorwhip. This is also before Snotlout and Minden even meet, so, assuming she doesn't remember that she's a Wingmaiden, Snotlout and Minden can easily get together! 🤞🏻
Scenario #3: Minden Loses a Limb and is Forced Into Retirement
What if Minden loses a limb? Well, in reality, probably wouldn't affect her much occupationally, since she just needs a prosthetic and away she goes. But what if she loses more than one? It might be likely that she would need to retire.
And Snotlout would be there to be her hands and feet. 😉
Scenario #4: Minden Becomes Blind and is Forced To Retire
Similar to Scenario #3, I'm not sure as to the requirements one must have as a Wingmaiden before one's considered "unfit for duty." But I would hazard a guess that blindness would be one thing a Wingmaiden shouldn't be, since sight is rather important in order to report dangers or intruders.
As such, it's possible Minden might have to retire and leave the Wingmaidens. If that's the case, then Snotlout will be there to be her eyes. 👀
Scenario #5: Atali Lets Minden Leave
In this scenario, Atali decides to let Minden leave Wingmaiden Island, thinking that Minden would do more good protecting dragons worldwide instead of remaining on the island. So Minden leaves with the Gang back to Berk.
Scenario #6: Minden Gets Dismissed Dishonorably
A scenario where Minden messes up enough to get discharged dishonorably, forcing her to leave the island. Here, Snotlout and the Gang can welcome her and give her some healing.
Scenario #7: Minden Becomes an Outcast
What if Atali ended up killed in the skirmish against the Dragon Flyers? The Elders might banish Minden as punishment, or Minden might banish herself.
Another option is that she does something bad enough to warrant banishment long before the events of RTTE and Snotlout meets her someplace.
Scenario #8: Snotlout Hypnotizes Minden
A Naughty/Evil! Snotlout option where Snotlout, not wanting Minden to go, hypnotizes her to make her forget about the Wingmaidens. 😵💫
In reality, though, unless Snotlout did it while separated from the Gang, I highly doubt that the others would let him get away with it. Plus, it would cause trouble with the Wingmaidens.
Scenario #9: Minden Decides Not to Join the Wingmaidens
What if Minden didn't join the Wingmaidens from the start? In this scenario, Snotlout and Minden meet each other during the Althing, where all the Tribes gather to find spouses, sell products, and make alliances.
Another option is that Snotlout meets her on one of the islands where she lives with her family.
Scenario #10: Snotlout Meets Minden in the Fighting Arenas
What if Minden was abducted and forced to fight in the Fighting Arenas? What if Snotlout was taken, too? What would happen? And would they be able to escape?
Scenario #11: Minden Lives on Berk
What if Minden ended up on Berk, whether as a baby, or if she was part of a shipwreck? But she ends up living in Berk and grows up with the others. And Snotlout grows up with Minden. And Minden has to deal with Snotlout's antics and crappy pickup lines. 😂
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That's all the scenarios I can think of. There's a lot, isn't there?
What do you guys think? If you guys have any scenarios you'd like to share, let me know.
Minlout Name Meanings by Minlout3Heathlegs3RuffthrokFan
Part 1 of the “What’s In A Name” collection for Minlout, Heathlegs, and Ruffthrok.
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(Heathlegs | Ruffthrok)
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Special thanks to @imaginativemind29 for finding the origins and meaning of Minden’s name. Greatly appreciate it. ^_^
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So I decided to make a little edit/photo that went into the definitions of Snotlout and Minden’s names. And I have to say that I wasn’t disappointed. ^_^
So I discovered that part of Snotlout’s name was actually historically accurate (whether DreamWorks knew of it or not). Snot- comes from the Old Norse word, Snotr, which means “clever, wise, or prudent,” which I thought was so ironic, considering Snotlout’s entire character arch. But it’s also great foreshadowing because it hints at what Snotlout’s meant to become and will be... in time (which we get to see in isolated episodes but we definitely start seeing by Season 4, when Snotlout decides to be his own man).
The meaning of Minden’s name is just... it’s so beautiful... I can’t even. XD :’)
I mean... look at it! I don’t believe it’s a coincidence that she was named that. It’s as if she was named that to signify that Minlout was always meant to be. I mean, “Mine-Yours”? Every time Snotlout or Minden says her name, it’s almost like a declaration of love and devotion. As if they’re saying, “You are mine; I am yours. To halves to one heart.” It’s just so precious, I can’t even... GAH! XD :’)
But there’s also another deeper message behind saying “Minden” (Mine-Yours):
The names come from a statement made by a Saxon duke after he converted to Christianity and made peace with King Karl the Great (aka Charlemagne) in the 8th century. After forming and signing the peace treaty at his castle at the river Weser, he said:
"Diese Burg soll nun min und din sein." (This castle shall now be mine and yours.)
So it got the name Min-Din (Mine-Yours) that was later written Minden (the town).
But seriously: “This CASTLE shall now be mine and yours.” Does anyone realize just how significant this is?
This reminds me of the scene at the beginning of the “Alvin and the Outcasts” episode in Riders of Berk, when Snotlout makes a Viking version of a ‘sandcastle’ and calls it “Snotlout Manor”. He then says this, afterwards:
Manors were fortified houses (also were sometimes synonymous with keeps) or even a simple keep with a wall during the entire middle ages — and many have existed, survived, and are still maintained throughout human history into the modern era. Anyone from aristocrats to nobles of various rank — even among the members of royalty — had them with the fief system. They were little mini-castles in their own right.
And I’m sure you’re aware of the old proverb: “A man’s home is his castle”?
Well, think about it... “This castle shall now be mine and yours,”... “A man’s home is his castle.”...
If a man’s home is his castle... and if his castle shall be "mine and yours”... Can you guess where I’m going with this? ,’:-)
“A man’s home is his castle. And his castle shall now be Min-Din.” Or ‘Minden,’ in this case.
Huh? Huh? How COOL is that?!
And we can do this backwards as well! Check this out...
“Minden shall now be his castle. And his castle is his home.”
Are you a puddle of feels right now? Because I certainly am! XD
So essentially, if Snotlout were to say this, he’d be saying: “Minden is my castle; and my castle is my home,” or “My castle shall now be Minden’s,” or “My castle is my home, and my home is Minden.” This is just really hitting me in the feels right now!
Another way to see this that’s of great significance would be if Snotlout created Snotlout Manor (like in preparation for marriage or something) and said: “This castle (or manor) shall now be mine and yours,” or “This castle (or manor) shall now be Minden.” That would be so powerful and amazing and the way he would look at her when he said it and the way she’d start tearing up... I just... I’m seriously gushing and fanboying over this.
Honestly, a minor pairing shouldn’t be turning me into a giant puddle of fluffy feels, but it is. And I’m loving every bit of it! ^_^
But can you imagine the scene that I’ve just shown above where Snotlout says, “This is Snotlout Manor — and all I need now is a queen.” and does that with Minden? And the deep meanings and symbolism by using Minden’s name, on top of his “castle” Snotlout Manor, would just be so lethally potent that it should be illegal! lol XD
Also, the fanon definitions/meanings of Minden’s name I gleaning just from the town and fortress by itself by what they represent. Which, in my opinion, fits Minden perfectly.
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Conclusion
So in conclusion, here’s the summary of this article for you to glean from:
Snotlout DOES, in fact, have a historical element to his name, surprisingly enough.
Snot- is from the Old Norse, meaning “wise, prudent, or clever.” (Clearly his mother’s doing, I’m sure of it.)
It fits him more when he learns to stop fighting it and accept his character arc.
Minden is a historical name of German origin.
Minden comes from the phrase “min-din”, meaning “mine-yours”, and originated from the Charlemagne Period.
It’s a name given to the castle of the same name where the peace treaty was signed between Charlemagne and the Saxons in the 700s AD.
The message behind it is just so beautiful, I could cry. :’)
If this doesn’t get you to ship Minlout, nothing will.
Minlout was obviously meant to be. This is Fate, has to be!
Anyway, this is my article — and Part 1 of the mini-series — concerning Minlout’s name meanings. I really hope that this has not only been an educating experience, but also gives you inspiration and a new-found love for the Minlout pairing. I, for one, am in love all over again, and am now an even bigger fan of the pairing. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they were meant to be! No way they could NOT be S.O.s with THOSE names!
Their name meanings just bring a whole new entire layer of depth into their relationship dynamic, their pairing, and their character archs. I’m just so hyped right now! You can be certain that bits and pieces of this will most definitely end up becoming one-shots, one way or the other! ^_^
I know this was a little long, but this really was worth it. I hope, at least, you’ve enjoyed reading this as much as I’ve enjoyed writing this. I’m not even sure that I’ll be able to sleep now! lol XD
Thank you for taking some time out of your busy schedules to come and read this. Please spread this around and make it viral. This pairing deserves it! And please keep an eye out for Part 2 of my “What’s In A Name” mini-series — next pairing shall be Heathlegs. So be on the lookout, fellow shippers!
Hello, everyone. Today, I want to talk about the one HUGE thing that made “Ruff Transition” (Season 6/Episode 7) such a disappointment for me — something that I’m sure many of you might’ve noticed as well.
Minden and Nadia aren’t in this episode.
You have NO idea how disappointed I was to notice that they were absent from the episode. I mean, Nadia, I didn’t really care about. It was really Minden that I wanted to see.
Why? Well... I wanted to see more Minlout interactions, you know? They really hit it off in “Chain of Command” and I wanted more of that — like the greedy glutton that I am. lol XD
I realize that they weren’t in the episode because their voice actresses weren’t there, probably, but still. I wanted more Minlout interactions! Is that so bad?
Okay, so let’s just ignore that particular tidbit and wonder what Minden and Nadia could be doing if Atali is here. I mean, they’re usually joined with her at the hip, being her subordinates and all.
But then I realized something.
It’s the Grand Transition — a time when the older hatchlings return to the nest, while new ones come to “vill the void”. And Atali mentions this as being one of the busiest times for them. Which causes me to think of a few reasons as to why Minden and Nadia aren’t there:
1. They, like Atali, are also training the new recruits in caring for their Razorwhip hatchlings. Or they’re leading the other groups (not newbies) in caring for the hatchlings.
2. They’re busy taking care of the day-to-day tasks of the Tribe while Atali is busy training the new recruits. Which is a great possibility. After all, this would be a time that would make both the Razorwhips and the Wingmaidens highly vulnerable (as we see later on in the episode when Krogan and the Hunters attack Wingmaiden Island), so it would make sense for them to make sure everything’s running smoothly and organizing the patrols and defenses (per Atali’s orders via Hiccup’s suggestion).
3. They’re off doing a census of the Razorwhip population on the north side of the island (where the nests are located). I’m not sure if they’d do it at THIS time of year, but what do I know about Wingmaiden culture? It’s all speculation at this point.
4. All of the above.
These reasons could easily explain why they weren’t around when the Hunters attacked Atali and the others if they were busy doing other tasks on other parts of the island. Nothing else makes sense (that I could see, anyway).
However, I’m holding out on the hope — and am fact making it my headcanon/canon — that Snotlout and Minden were able to spend some time together one night and playing catch-up. I mean, the Gang WERE there for a couple of days and nights. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they met in-between scenes in the episode.
In fact, it’s probable that Minden and Nadia WERE with the others during the feast before Atali led the Gang to the chamber where the ceremony began. I mean, feasts are usually customary in a celebration, right?
I’m shipping it as canon. Minden and Snotlout DID meet behind the scenes in the episode, but just wasn’t shown. I need to believe that, or else I’m going to go crazy. lol XD
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed my random article on the sketchy likelihood that Snotlout and Minden reunited in the episode without us knowing about it. This just shows how much I love Minlout. lol XD
