#negative 4

[archiewillie]

Guys, I swear I'm not crazy, but I remember watching a very old video of a Super 4 comic where Ruby was bewitched by Babacara into turning into a "Queen of Chaos" and turning against Alex, Gene, Twinkle and alien. Yes, I know Super 4 is already a kind of Lost Media, but at least it was found and even had the series repost in Youtube, but this video of evil Ruby just... disappear from Youtube. Also, I remember reading a fanfiction of Super 4 about Super 4 versus Negative 4 where the doubles capture Gene to enslave him while fighting the heroes. Do you know something about these two Lost Media? Did you watch/read it when little? Did you guys ever watch/read something of Super 4 then found it just disappear? Guys, please tell me I'm not crazy...

[dimashin]

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[numbuh]

yeah alright sure whatever

[rosetowers]

Recently got really into this show called Super 4 and a few days ago I watched “negatives”. I've been thinking about the duplicates and something occurred to me, they aren't just “bad” versions of the main four, they also seem to have different mindsets to their originals’ in them.

I first noticed this with Alex’s duplicate. Negative Alex called a disguised Gene “peasant” which is something Alex would never do. As far as he's concerned he's a knight first, prince second. Negative Alex would love the royal lifestyle, and most likely believes himself to be above others.

So then I thought about Negative Twinkle. When Twinkle tried to cast a spell, Negative Twinkle just zapped her with her wand, telling her to “cut the poetry” because she wasn't good at it. Now, Twinkle is not dumb, she is naive and has trouble with spells, but she also as a pretty good knowledge of other aspects of magic (such as when Fourchesac substituted stork song for crow song and turned everyone in Kendric’s castle into hug-zombies and she immediately identified the mistake and the solution), and she is also very powerful (she could zap away Baba Cara right after recovering from an illness). Negative Twinkle knows all of this, so as far as she’s concerned she needn't bother with trying to remember spells when she has a working knowledge of other aspects of magic and is very powerful. Twinkle, on the other hand, believes she should know her spells anyway and works hard to do them.

With Negative Gene, he called the Technopolian robots tin-cans. He believes himself and his inventions to be superior. Gene actually thinks that Doctor X is a capable scientist, in the same episode when X is showing off his latest invention (which created the duplicates) Gene remarks that, if it works, the invention is genius. In an earlier episode the main four are attempting to get Gene’s confiscated fuel back, he mentions multiple times that they won't be able to outsmart the defences. Gene has little doubt about other people’s creations, Negative Gene thinks his are the best.

There's not much to say about Negative Ruby. I imagine she's pretty disloyal, if she'd been given half a chance or a reason I guess she probably would have abandoned her “team” for her own ends.

Basically the Negative 4 are all arrogant and easily dismissive, unlike the Super 4.

[archiewillie]

Super 4 AUs

For a long time, I've been toying with ideas about different alternate universes (AUs) based on my favorite cartoon from the 2010s, Super 4, listing what I consider "silly" and "random", to "weird" to what I consider "fascinating" or "genius" (although I doubt this bombshell is the case). It's just a random list of the AUs I've created so far (and remembered I've created or adapted so far):

Silly/Random AU:

Siblings AU. I don't know, very conflicted about having them as blood-related siblings or just them having their own siblings (except for Alex, of course, she already has a pain in the neck in the form of Leonora). But I'm pretty sure I can make the Negatives their siblings, like, the classic opposite twins!

Super 4 x Miraculous AU (+ Poly4). I imagine it after the introduction of the dragon and pig miraculous that reminded me instantly of Ruby and Twinkle. I can definitively see them and Alex and Gene (maybe even Alien as a mascot or an new kwami) as great miraculous holders, but also as akumatized villains!

Super 4 with disabilities AU. Certainly not silly, but certainly random and a bit confusing, mainly because I didn't even know what a "disability" was at the time, just something "unique" and "complicated". In the case of this AU, the heroes are physically, mentally, or neurologically disabled, be it invisible disability, a disorder or obvious disability. This is it: Alex has the protagonist's syndrome and level 1 autism with ADHD symptons, Gene has level 1 autism and OCD, Ruby has Swyer Syndrome, functional illiteracy, ADHD and borderline disorder (+ blind in one eye), and Twinkle has intellectual disability and muteness (to reference Tinkerbell in Peter Pan). Alien has scent disability and is an albino (making him have bad eyesight and hypersensibility to the sunlight).

Super 4 as children AU. They're technically children/teenagers in the original series, but here they're actually, in fact, CHILDREN below their 13 (maybe, minus Gene and Alien, or I don't know, Gene is a few years older). They all have PSD- life is not easy.

Ruby as a fairy/pirate hybrid. Basically that old theory about Ruby made as an AU. I remember I added growing wings and a fairy wand along with heterochromia in Ruby.

Half-Dragon Ruby + still with a pirate mindset. The reverse of the fairy/pirate hybrid Ruby AU.

Weird AUs:

The Great Truce AU. Negative 4 and Super 4 made an ustable truce after an nearly lethal battle and after the villains "redeem" themselves. It's pure chaos, drama and dark comedy.

The Great Truce AU + Horror AU. Super 4 and Negative 4 made an unstable after Super 4 rescued Negative 4 from Dr. X and the villains "redeem" themselves after an villain era. Almost the same, except the Negatives are bio-animatronic, Poppy Playtime + Frankenstein style creatures. It's pure chaos, suspense, agony, drama and dark comedy.

Evil Super 4 AU. Self-explained title.

Phantom of the Opera AU (in my mind, it's already Rubinkle, but ya lot can imagine your favorite characters into the roles).

Super 4 x HTTYD.... what am I doing?

Prehistoric 4 AU.

Fascinating/Genius AUs:

Mythological AU. Super 4 reimagined as elemental gods/demigods or mythical creatures.

"Those things out there aren't just copies, they're monsters." A horror/suspense AU inspired by Poppy's Playtime, Frankenstein, and Jurassic Park. It portrays the Negative 4 as more than "defective" or "negative" clones, but rather robotic hybrid creatures of humans, proto negatives and other creatures based on a clone structure of Super 4 with gray morals and unhinged personas. Wait... what are these glowing silver eyes?

Super 4 x FNAF x Rainbow Factory AU. Super 4 as revengeful/trapped spirits in a factory that consumes and use rainbow (likely ruled by Dr. X or Sykronior) who also have an harmless mascot place as disguise. Good enough.

+18/Mature Super 4 AU.

Yandere AU.... why are you running, babe?

2000s/2010s AU. Kinda like Modern AU of those very known talented Super 4 artists, but focused exclusively on Super 4 in 2000/2010s era.

And... I think it's the end. Pretty too long for seemingly just "silly" or "fascinating" ideas, hm? Of course it wouldn't be ALL my AUs, but at very least the ones I remembered. I think... I'm really obsessed with this fuckin show!

[archiewillie]

Now I've realized something rather curious and strangely fascinating about the Super 4 team while I was making the post about grotesque Super 4 ships. They're children. It's all assumptions and theories, of course, but I firmly believe they're minors, teenagers (12-16) at most. I know I already said this in my last post, but that's when it clicked. How didn't I realize it before? I don't know either, my comrades, I don't know either.

They are literally children/teenagers fighting against supervillains who are at the very least mentally ill, psychopaths, or just insane idiots. They're losing their childhood because of this crap and, despite seeming to enjoy their adventures, I don't see why sometimes they simply DON'T want such adventures or just want a vacation. Damn, they already have a job that no adult in their worlds has taken on, and yet they're humiliated, ignored, or congratulated for sacrifices they shouldn't even have to make, even if it's honorable. This also makes me think about… the Negatives. My dawgs, my favorite villains besides Black Baron and Sharkbeard. Does that mean they're children too, being doppelgangers and all? If that's the case, technically we have minor villains who tried to conquer the world and KILL their originals simply because they were defeated in a ridiculously comical way.

If Super 4 were a children's/teen series with an adult twist, those kids would surely suffer from at least PSD or severe anxiety, not to mention the "death" or near-death situations and other aspects of their early childhood (Ruby would definitely suffer more than she already has, as would Gene, Alex, and even Twinkle) besides more entry in their psyche. I don't know, I just find it extremely interesting. It seems like some cartoons from the 2000s onwards simply come with this "if it were adult, it would definitely be darker or bloody" vibe. Like Miraculous and My Little Pony, except Super 4 was made almost exclusively for children below 10 and was canceled prematurely :(

[archiewillie]

ABOUT SUPER 4 CLONES AKA NEGATIVE 4!

I don't know, but I just like this kind of villains/antagonists (Doppelganger/Shadow Self), but what I like even more about those bad guys are their personalities and dynamic. Altough we couldn't see it in their episode debut due to their extremely short screen time (especially related to their dynamic as a villan group and as individual villains), we got to see it in their second appearence (Super Bad). Indeed, a curious case.

A somewhat toxic and strange, but certainly fascinating, relationship dynamic. I'd call them a dysfunctional family, but I'd replace "dysfuncional" with "parasite," since they seem to be together only because they shared common goals (and ultimately, they were annoying each other down and getting in each other's way). It was short and quick, but enough to give us a glimpse into their dynamics, intentions, and core personality. I don't know, but I love them as characters and as villains, and I honestly wish I'd seen more of them than those silly Sykronians or that idiot Rock Brock. They fit into the classic s1 villains squad.

I feel like there seems to be a general disinterest among fans regarding Negative 4, whether due to their strange aesthetics (after all, even this group's appearance is "broken" and their episode is OK), their story, or perhaps personal taste. I wouldn't care as much about this aspect when I want more about these guys when I want more about Ruby (besides, my favorite is Negative Ruby, obviously).

Now, here's my introduction bc why not?

Hi, I'm an enthusiastic newbie here. I may or may not stay, but at least I'll leave some mark on this platform. I like cartoons like Super 4, HTTYD and Miraculous, plus creepy stuff like FNAF and Poppy Playtime, and I don't regret writing this. It's my first post ever and my "hello, fuckers" to you all, fellow tumblr users.

[jennygogos]

im disconnected from my friends and all i do is listen to sad music and smoke weed and have anxiety because i know these are only band aid solutions to the problem and every day they are falling off and ive got to hold myself together but im too tired. its all so vast and it overcomes me