Barry listening to a true crime podcast on auto play while he does lab work at the CCPD. So he isn't expecting when the podcaster says the name, "Nora Allen" and starts describing Barry's mother's murder. Biggest jumpscare + wtf moment ever
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Barry listening to a true crime podcast on auto play while he does lab work at the CCPD. So he isn't expecting when the podcaster says the name, "Nora Allen" and starts describing Barry's mother's murder. Biggest jumpscare + wtf moment ever
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Nora was Normal. She was a normal mom in a normal middle class house in a normal middle class neighborhood. She had married a normal doctor and they had had a normal, albiet occasionally hyper active, son. She drove a normal car and made normal meals and wore normal clothes.
She was normal.
Until she crossed paths with the Fentons.
It could have been anywhere, Central City, Amity Park, on the street, at the store, at a conference center. Could have been for any reason, a tech fair, comic con, road trip, vacation, running errands, answering a newspaper ad. And in 1,000 universes their paths crossed a thousand ways for a thousand reasons.
but they always crossed.
And something about they way the Fentons talk plants the tiniest of seeds in her mind.
and that seed grows.
Changes how she views the world.
And when echos of the impossible start to churn she hears them.
She teaches her little boy that anything is possible.
That the universe is vast and infinite.
And so, one little Barthalomew Henery Allen believes.
Believes in the impossible.
Long before he sees the impossible.
An eternity before he becomes it.
He believes.
Because Nora Allen was totally. irrovicably, 100%, absolutely, most assuredly, Normal.
Until she wasn't.
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i rly just cannot get over this. barry started doing his “flash facts” bc of nora’s “mom-facts” 😭💗
i love barry’s relationship w his mom, she wasn’t just part of his origin story, she was integral to his defining personality and interests. sure, he became the flash bc of her, but more importantly, SHE’S the reason he likes scifi and comic books. SHE’S the reason he has his little “flash facts”! he is his mother’s son!!
i also appreciate when male characters take after the women in their lives, esp beyond narrative checkpoints. it’s the little things that make their relationship feel more real and impacted. barry is a reflection of nora, and i like that we can see sm of her in him :”)
Someone on twt asked me how Iris was selfish when she confronted Barry about taking Nora back to the future without consulting her.
Iris defended Nora working with Thawne and stated she didn't care that she did.
She expected Barry to understand where Nora was coming from. Barry went back in time to save his mother's life, and yeah it fucked shit up in a big way but Nora working with the man who killed her grandmother & killed her father in the future is fucked in ways I can't even articulate
She constantly brings up when Barry went into the Speed Force. She gets upset with him for choosing to be a hero and saving an entire city because he left her as if he had a fucking choice.
Iris spent the entirety of that season trying to get Nora to stop hating her and that prevented her from seeing Barry's point of view because she didn't want her daughter to go back to hating her.
Iris was very self-centered and selfish in that scene, and yeah, maybe Barry should have informed her, it was a big decision, and yeah, Iris is Nora's mother, but at the same time...why? Thawne has ruined the lives of everyone on Team Flash. He killed Barry's mother and got his father sent to prison. In one timeline, he killed Cisco. He's the reason Eddie shot himself. He's the reason Ronnie died.
Barry shouldn't have to forgive or excuse Nora just because she's his daughter, and it was wrong to expect him to do so. Her refusal to understand Barry's point of view is what's selfish. I'm not calling her a bad wife or a bad person, but my god, in this scene? She definitely wasn't a good one.
I sometimes think about how Barry's mom being dead and his dad being in jail (or dead) is a fairly recent retcon that took place just before the N52 relaunch. Before the retcon, they both were very much alive and well. They appeared on a regular basis throughout the silver and bronze age, and even post-crisis they were shown to be alive.
They also knew that Barry was The Flash.
Anyway where I am getting with this is that during the entirety of the time that Bart Allen was living with Max, then Jay and Joan, he never once met them, and there was no indication that anyone even revealed to him that he had other family in the 20th century. They were not unknown characters either, they did however not know that Iris was alive (which when she published her book under her own name probably would have gotten a lot of questions).
It is an interesting detail that I haven't seen too many people bring up in the Flash fandom - that Barry's parents could have feasibly had a relationship with Bart but they never did. They also could have possibly taken him in as they were not decrepit in age, they were about Jay and Joan's age.
I feel like the whole in-universe conversation about them in regards to Iris coming back to life with Bart in tow was a missed opportunity. I realize that the main explanation why this never happened is entirely because the writers at the time simply had no desire to bring them into the picture, but it's still worth talking about.
In a more realistic setting Nora and Henry Allen would be fully entitled to feeling alienated that they were left out of the conversation entirely and were prevented from having a relationship with their great-grandson. They also would have the ability to sue for visitation rights, or even custody, if they wanted to.
It just compels me more and adds yet another layer of tragedy to Bart's sense of family and home, and his inability to live with blood family even while they were present.
Note 1: this is for the comics and the comics alone, no other form of media. Note 2: do not use this post as an invitation to hate on Iris West.
Nora was ready for anything, but probably not for this.
This dialogue was supposed to happen (
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his hairclips got lore, his bowtie got lore, it’s abt time barry’s wing wispies got some lore too 🪽
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