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[tzimizce]

wta commission for one of my friends of his bone gnawer :)

[belthegore]

toreador antitribu idea that took ahold of me. tortured (and torturing) artist

[vexwerewolf]

For all my problems with oWoD in general and Werewolf: The Apocalypse specifically, I love that Pentex are just the Captain Planet villains. Like they don't even get any profit from polluting, they're just the Pollution Company clocking in their shift at the Pollution Factory

[vampiremood]

time for a silly AU!!

okay folks, throw your OC in the World of Darkness wheel and let's see how they pop out. do they end up in a different game line? do they end up in a different time period? do they end up in a different genre?!

how did things turn out for your blorbo?

They're doing even better than before! 😎

It's different but interesting 👀

Somehow things have gotten worse 😨

IDEK what to do with this 🤷‍♀️

lol. lmao even 🤪

Voting ended onMar 1

please feel free to talk in the tags what results you got and how you would do it! I wanna know what folks think. and if you actually wanna dive into this AU (what kind of clan/tribe/tradition/etc would your OC switch to? what happens to their other relationships? how would they be shaped by a different time period? do they survive the End Times???) then please please do tag me! I wanna read it 😊🖤

Further notes and thoughts below:

I considered doing something like a ghoul/dhampyr/kinfolk AU, but I don't know all the lines well enough to know if there's an equivalent in each setting 😅

I tried to keep these fairly broad and stick to what's been published in WoD. I did exclude Kindred of the East for personal reasons

but that said I also hope these options don't feel fundamentally fixated on a Western perspective. the World of Darkness has a global fanbase, and includes supernatural horror stories from all over. the published books were for time periods like "the Victorian Era", but I think saying 1800s AU in your blorbo's nation works fine. I don't want this to be exclusionary or alienating, really

and ultimately my goal is for us to have fun, and hopefully inspire folks to do a little research into the other corners of the World of Darkness. who are the guilds of the arcanoi? what does the new world order want? what can you find within the umbra? I feel like I could read all these books forever, and always find something new and interesting

[madonnamadeofasphalt]

I do feel like vampires ought to be the self-important losers of the World of Darkness, TBH. Like, a lot of the worldbuilding points to it, with how little they understand about the universe they live in when compared to especially mages and demons, but even the changelings or the wraiths, and how they're by far the most concerned about their safety not just from all the other supernatural threats but even from normal mortals. Except out of universe, they happen to be the oldest and most popular part of the franchise, so White Wolf tends to chicken out from these implications and make them and their problems a bigger deal overall to make them seem cooler or whatever, even when it contradicts earlier worldbuilding.

And I think they're at their most interesting when you ignore those attempts and allow them to be just a bunch of snooty street gangsters who imagine themselves to be feudal lords. When their entire Gehenna is honestly not that important from the point of view of, like, an average Technocracy operative or Sidhe lord, and even the might of Caine himself would put him at most in the middle of top 10 biggest problems of the year.

Like, it plays better into the themes of the Masquerade, I feel like. You're a tiny fishy in a giant scary ocean, you spend your nights hunting for food and desperately trying not to attract the attention of that massive fucking shark (or to make yourself useful enough to the shark to get to the honoured position of a suckerfish), but when the fishermen come, the shark is just a bigger target. And that's not even getting into water pollution, which neither you nor the shark have any idea about, and honestly even most fishermen have at best a vague understanding of it, but it will kill you all if left unmanaged. I dunno, I got a bit too deep into the fish allegory, but y'all get what I'm saying, right?

[malky-tea]

Halfbody for @tzimizce Thanks for commissioning me!

Neberu named Constellation. I just LOVE his horns and his vibe ✨

[avavkh]

Salubri WIP

[gnost-stories]

On Continuity in Werewolf: The Apocalypse

The worst part about Werewolf: The Apocalypse 5th Edition is that little disclaimer at the start of the core rule book which claims this edition is a "re-imagining" of the game, and that elements of prior editions need not apply.

Now, I understand why they did this. The reproductive aspects of Garou in editions past were very uncomfortable, as were the heavy associations between Werewolf Tribe identity and stereotypes of real world cultures, however I think as Werewolf 5th Edition has gotten more and more source books (which have all been excellent, by the way), this "re-imagining" disclaimer has just become less and less true, especially with the return of Zhyzhak in Wyrmtide.

I also think that claiming a re-imagining wasn't totally necessary. The World of Darkness is a place of deep surreality, and Werewolves are closer to that surreality than anyone, being partially of Spirit. The writers could have found a way of altering the essence of the Garou to no longer be predicated on predatory breeding practices and a forbidden pairing of Garou and Garou that reeks of subtextual homophobia and eugenics advocacy. I think it would have been really interesting if the writers had taken the birth of the Perfect Crinosborn (I decline to use the prior editions' term for them out of respect for the Métis people) as an event which ripples throughout the physical and spiritual worlds and fundamentally alters the way Garou work. The World of Darkness functions often on world-bending events that heavily alter the status quo.

All this being said, I think ignoring that Re-Imagining disclaimer has no real negative impact on the game as you play it - in fact, I think treating 5th Edition as a continuation enhances the feeling of growing terror and establishes what it means to exist in the Age of Apocalypse. Allow me to demonstrate:

Take, for instance, the Umbra; once, it was a place of serenity and spiritual harmony, the Garou could travel there as an innate ability in and of themselves, and remain there for as long as they liked, provided they mind their manners around the Spirits they meet there. Moon Bridges would criss-cross through the Umbra, connecting Caerns from far flung corners of the world and allowing the Garou to mobilize rapidly to any front in the War against the Wyrm on a global scale.

Now, the Umbra is a place of utter destruction and devastation. The Gauntlet has calcified, rendering the Garou ability to Step Sideways inert, leaving it up to the Theurges to develop a new Rite to cross into the Umbra. It takes longer, and has greater risks. The Umbra itself is hostile to the half-spirit Garou; staying in the Umbra for more than a scene takes its toll on your Willpower and eventually your Health. The Moon Bridges are destroyed, rendering each Caern weaker, more isolated.

This extends into other changes in 5th Edition as well. The Crinos form, formerly stable and relatively comfortable to maintain, is now constantly on the very edge of Frenzy, needing constant expenditure of Willpower to maintain. All of these changes 'nerf' the Garou and their capabilities, yes, but I think it has the effect of increasing the dramatic tension of the setting, and reflecting the ever-worsening climate apocalypse the Garou (and we in the real world) inhabit.

There are also even cases where treating 5th Edition as a continuation enhances the Tribes too. Not to even mention that at time of writing there is very little new lore on the Tribes most heavily altered between editions, I would like to take the Black Furies as an example here. In prior editions, the Tribe once associated with Pegasus had a strict membership policy of "female only". This reflects the outdated but of the time more popular bioessentialist theory of Women's sovereignty, using things like having a womb and the ability to become pregnant as core, essential signifiers of women's identity. I am a Trans Woman and do not have the time right now to get fully into why this mode of thought sucks and is inoperable. Returning to my point, The Black Furies once held this as part of their Tribe identity, but in the new Edition, have shed this policy. If taken in continuity, this tells of a Tribe once wrapped up in an archaic and bioessentialist mode of thought growing and undergoing Tribe-wide character development. This to me is more compelling than if the Black Furies had always been as they are.

The inter-edition changes demonstrate an aspect of the Garou Nation and its constituent Tribes as being in motion, introduces dynamism to the setting and Garou social structures that makes the setting richer for it.

I'm gonna take this even further. If you're a fan of the old Get of Fenris, I do not automatically think you're a Nazi or fascist (your behaviour otherwise will tell that tale), however, even you must be aware of Camps such as the Sword of Heimdall which exemplify the absolute worst aspects of the Tribe even in Classic Werewolf. The way this story goes if taken into continuity (even though even now Werewolf 5th Edition still calls the predecessor to the Cult of Fenris "Wolf's Tribe", the Cult of Fenris being so named is an obvious and probably deliberate reference), is that the Get of Fenris, for yes all of its genuinely good aspects, was infiltrated, appropriated, and taken over my malicious actors, and their presence became so dominant in the Tribe that the only options for everyone else was to convert, die, or Renounce Fenris. The Renunciates of Fenris thus far only have the one Loresheet in the Core Rulebook at time of writing, but they're one of the most compelling elements of the new edition in my opinion. Now, speaking to Get of Fenris fans, does it suck that your favorite Tribe got aped by Hauglosk and radicals and bad actors? Yes, absolutely. I would have it too, but, hear me out: The Renunciates of Fenris know that, and are there to give voice to that grief. Their Tribe, the group and Patron Spirit they've invested their whole purpose and worldview into, has become lost to its Hauglosk, and there's resonance in that that I think is incredibly valuable as something to explore in storytelling.

The Garou Nation has become the Shattered Nation, the Tribes dwindle and evolve (or devolve, depending on your perspective), the Umbra and its inhabitants have become hostile to you, and even the War Form is haunted by the biting flame of Frenzy. This is the Age of Apocalypse, the Wyrm and its agents are stronger than ever, but the Garou are still here, and the fight must go on.

When Will You Rage?