David and Goliath by Guillaume Courtois
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David and Goliath by Guillaume Courtois
And, contrary to modern day Palestinians, they did have a P letter in their language.
Are the Philistines in Samson and Delilah same as the Palestinian people?
No. The Philistines were long-gone when the Romans renamed the land "Palestine" after an ancient, defeated enemy.
In Ottoman and Mandate Palestine, "Palestinians" more referred to Jews living in the region than anybody else.
The Arab nationalist movement wouldn't take the name "Palestinian" until much later.
Lots of details here.
Disclaimer, me and my girlfriend (99% my girlfriend) wrote this, my girlfriend is from the US and knows her stuff so dont bash me for being british and talking about US involved politics! Same goes for Middle Eastern politics HUGE RANT ON ISRAEL V PALESTINE (PT 2)
This war garnered traction on TikTok of all places, which is never a good place to learn or research (it's a music app, no duh), and people decided to go with it without even asking what was really up with it all. This has caused so much misinformation to fly around willy nilly, and has placed hatred and bigotry into the hearts of many "pro Palestinians". I have seen the comments of Jewish people's videos which had NOTHING to do with the war, and you know what most of the comments said? "It was more like 160k but ok" in reference to WW2, "we can tell w/ ur beaked nose self" over someone showing off an ethnicity test, "bring back the funny austrian painter mustache man" because someone asked for the Israeli music station on an app that shows you what music is currently playing in whatever country you pick, and SO much more. Hell, when this first started, i joined a debate discord server only to find it had been overrun by antisemitic pro pali's who would scream the n word at Jewish people and call them . When i tried to tell them the history, my messages were deleted and a LITERAL 15 year old started sending me gore of the war asking if that was what i wanted.
This is NOT siding with the civilians like they claim they are, these people are clumping together any Jewish person with corrupt government leaders like Netanyahu and being extremely Antisemitic. If you live in America, you know that your 'leaders' do not define you. On siding with the civilians, pro Palestinians have shown time and time again they're absolutely absent minded. While it's true a majority of civilians are innocents, they're completely ignorant to the ones who purposefully antagonize occupying soldiers in an attempts to get them to shoot them to start even more of a discussion. They throw rocks, bricks, they shove their own children at soldiers screaming for them to kill them, they break windows, etc. And on top of this, most pro Palestinians are pro Hamas and don't even realize how awful of a thing that is to be. Hamas is not the civilians saviour, they purposefully hide under civilian structures, making it harder to stop them when they attack Israel without accidentally nabbing a civilian and getting called evil. They steal supplies and hoard it, they wear civilian clothing, they keep their own people hostage and as human shields, and they keep Israeli people hostage and kill them painfully.
You could argue Israeli soldiers "Do the same", but the IDF has shown multiple times that they aren't out to go to war for the sake of causing casualties, unlike Hamas. There were countless leaflets dropped for days warning civilians of Gaza to evacuate, the IDF has constantly administered medical treatment on wounded civilians whether Israeli or Palestinian, and tried to limit their strikes to as little collateral damage as possible. In war, bad things happen, people get hurt and civilians die, and in no way does that justify the small minority of the IDF that has shot at civilians, but just like every military there will always be extremists. Just like America, just like Europe, there are bad people everywhere, and they hide among each other waiting for a chance to strike. You really have no idea what happens in the American military if you think this is the worst of the worst. Women get raped by other male members, people go crazy from the atrocities and will lash out and kill their own platoon members, they rape civilians where they're occupied, they're loud, and they're ugly inside and out. And its hard admittedly to keep track of every single person ever in a military especially if they have a clean record and nobody speaks up about the corrupt people who commit such evils. Do you really think any one would keep those people around if they knew what they were up to? Do you think they even have a choice when they're under attack? During ww2 when men were getting drafted across each country, they didn't have time to think about the personality of who they were picking, they didn't have time to check when their people were being murdered. They picked based on physical fitness, because people, more arms, were scarce. Those disgusting people are a liability, they make the movement look awful the same way some protestors here will break into local businesses and steal from them instead of stealing from actual greedy businesses like Walmart or Target. You get the point. And to those talking about Greta and how she was "kidnapped" and how "awful" it was of them to show her footage of what happened, they showed her that footage because she didn't come there to understand, she didn't come there to think critically or help, she got her information from social media platforms where misinformation spreads like wildfire, and people who believe AI videos and scams begging for money, obviously aren't going to care what the other party has to say since they've already decided they're right. They wanted to show her why she was wrong, challenge her views. Of course, she turned it into "They are forcefully keeping me here i will die and they are showing us gore" despite literally being able to leave just fine afterwards and use TWITTER. During it all. A broken clock is right at least once a day. You can acknowledge she's great for speaking out against climate change, but you don't have to agree with everything just for that. I feel like leftism has diluted itself to "believe what every other person says" out of fear of wanting to be morally right and good people.
David and Goliath
1 The Philistines gathered their forces for war at Socoh in Judah and camped between Socoh and Azekah in Ephes-dammim. 2 Saul and the men of Israel gathered and camped in the Valley of Elah; then they lined up in battle formation to face the Philistines.
3 The Philistines were standing on one hill, and the Israelites were standing on another hill with a ravine between them. 4 Then a champion named Goliath, from Gath, came out from the Philistine camp. He was nine feet, nine inches tall 5 and wore a bronze helmet and bronze scale armor that weighed one hundred twenty-five pounds. 6 There was bronze armor on his shins, and a bronze javelin was slung between his shoulders. 7 His spear shaft was like a weaver’s beam, and the iron point of his spear weighed fifteen pounds. In addition, a shield-bearer was walking in front of him.
8 He stood and shouted to the Israelite battle formations, “Why do you come out to line up in battle formation?” He asked them, “Am I not a Philistine and are you not servants of Saul? Choose one of your men and have him come down against me. 9 If he wins in a fight against me and kills me, we will be your servants. But if I win against him and kill him, then you will be our servants and serve us.” 10 Then the Philistine said, “I defy the ranks of Israel today. Send me a man so we can fight each other!” 11 When Saul and all Israel heard these words from the Philistine, they lost their courage and were terrified.
12 Now David was the son of the Ephrathite from Bethlehem of Judah named Jesse. Jesse had eight sons and during Saul’s reign was already an old man. 13 Jesse’s three oldest sons had followed Saul to the war, and their names were Eliab, the firstborn, Abinadab, the next, and Shammah, the third, 14 and David was the youngest. The three oldest had followed Saul, 15 but David kept going back and forth from Saul to tend his father’s flock in Bethlehem.
16 Every morning and evening for forty days the Philistine came forward and took his stand. 17 One day Jesse had told his son David, “Take this half-bushel of roasted grain along with these ten loaves of bread for your brothers and hurry to their camp. 18 Also take these ten portions of cheese to the field commander. Check on the well-being of your brothers and bring a confirmation from them. 19 They are with Saul and all the men of Israel in the Valley of Elah fighting with the Philistines.”
20 So David got up early in the morning, left the flock with someone to keep it, loaded up, and set out as Jesse had charged him.
He arrived at the perimeter of the camp as the army was marching out to its battle formation shouting their battle cry. 21 Israel and the Philistines lined up in battle formation facing each other. 22 David left his supplies in the care of the quartermaster and ran to the battle line. When he arrived, he asked his brothers how they were. 23 While he was speaking with them, suddenly the champion named Goliath, the Philistine from Gath, came forward from the Philistine battle line and shouted his usual words, which David heard. 24 When all the Israelite men saw Goliath, they retreated from him terrified.
25 Previously, an Israelite man had declared, “Do you see this man who keeps coming out? He comes to defy Israel. The king will make the man who kills him very rich and will give him his daughter. The king will also make the family of that man’s father exempt from paying taxes in Israel.”
26 David spoke to the men who were standing with him: “What will be done for the man who kills that Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Just who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?”
27 The troops told him about the offer, concluding, “That is what will be done for the man who kills him.”
28 David’s oldest brother Eliab listened as he spoke to the men, and he became angry with him. “Why did you come down here?” he asked. “Who did you leave those few sheep with in the wilderness? I know your arrogance and your evil heart—you came down to see the battle!”
29 “What have I done now?” protested David. “It was just a question.” 30 Then he turned from those beside him to others in front of him and asked about the offer. The people gave him the same answer as before.
31 What David said was overheard and reported to Saul, so he had David brought to him. 32 David said to Saul, “Don’t let anyone be discouraged by him; your servant will go and fight this Philistine!”
33 But Saul replied, “You can’t go fight this Philistine. You’re just a youth, and he’s been a warrior since he was young.”
34 David answered Saul, “Your servant has been tending his father’s sheep. Whenever a lion or a bear came and carried off a lamb from the flock, 35 I went after it, struck it down, and rescued the lamb from its mouth. If it reared up against me, I would grab it by its fur, strike it down, and kill it. 36 Your servant has killed lions and bears; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.” 37 Then David said, “The Lord who rescued me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will rescue me from the hand of this Philistine.”
Saul said to David, “Go, and may the Lord be with you.”
38 Then Saul had his own military clothes put on David. He put a bronze helmet on David’s head and had him put on armor. 39 David strapped his sword on over the military clothes and tried to walk, but he was not used to them. “I can’t walk in these,” David said to Saul, “I’m not used to them.” So David took them off. 40 Instead, he took his staff in his hand and chose five smooth stones from the wadi and put them in the pouch, in his shepherd’s bag. Then, with his sling in his hand, he approached the Philistine.
41 The Philistine came closer and closer to David, with the shield-bearer in front of him. 42 When the Philistine looked and saw David, he despised him because he was just a youth, healthy and handsome. 43 He said to David, “Am I a dog that you come against me with sticks?” Then he cursed David by his gods. 44 “Come here,” the Philistine called to David, “and I’ll give your flesh to the birds of the sky and the wild beasts!”
45 David said to the Philistine, “You come against me with a sword, spear, and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord of Armies, the God of the ranks of Israel—you have defied him. 46 Today, the Lord will hand you over to me. Today, I’ll strike you down, remove your head, and give the corpses of the Philistine camp to the birds of the sky and the wild creatures of the earth. Then all the world will know that Israel has a God, 47 and this whole assembly will know that it is not by sword or by spear that the Lord saves, for the battle is the Lord’s. He will hand you over to us.”
48 When the Philistine started forward to attack him, David ran quickly to the battle line to meet the Philistine. 49 David put his hand in the bag, took out a stone, slung it, and hit the Philistine on his forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown to the ground. 50 David defeated the Philistine with a sling and a stone. David overpowered the Philistine and killed him without having a sword. 51 David ran and stood over him. He grabbed the Philistine’s sword, pulled it from its sheath, and used it to kill him. Then he cut off his head. When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they fled. 52 The men of Israel and Judah rallied, shouting their battle cry, and chased the Philistines to the entrance of the valley and to the gates of Ekron. Philistine bodies were strewn all along the Shaaraim road to Gath and Ekron.
53 When the Israelites returned from the pursuit of the Philistines, they plundered their camps. 54 David took Goliath’s head and brought it to Jerusalem, but he put Goliath’s weapons in his own tent.
55 When Saul had seen David going out to confront the Philistine, he asked Abner the commander of the army, “Whose son is this youth, Abner?”
“Your Majesty, as surely as you live, I don’t know,” Abner replied.
56 The king said, “Find out whose son this young man is!”
57 When David returned from killing the Philistine, Abner took him and brought him before Saul with the Philistine’s head still in his hand. 58 Saul said to him, “Whose son are you, young man?”
“The son of your servant Jesse of Bethlehem,” David answered. — 1 Samuel 17 | Christian Standard Bible (CSB) The Christian Standard Bible. Copyright © 2017 by Holman Bible Publishers. All rights reserved. Cross References: Genesis 35:19; Genesis 37:13-14; Genesis 42:15; Numbers 13:31; Deuteronomy 5:26; Deuteronomy 20:1; Deuteronomy 28:26; Joshua 10:10; Joshua 11:22; Joshua 15:11; Joshua 15:16; Judges 18:21; 1 Samuel 7:7; 1 Samuel 8:17; 1 Samuel 14:6; 1 Samuel 14:12; 1 Samuel 16:6; 1 Samuel 16:11-12; 1 Samuel 16:19; 1 Samuel 18:4; 1 Samuel 18:17; 1 Samuel 19:5; 1 Samuel 20:6; 1 Samuel 21:9; 1 Samuel 25:18; 1 Samuel 26:5; 2 Samuel 2:12; 2 Samuel 21:19; 2 Samuel 21:21; 2 Samuel 23:21; Psalm 27:3; Jeremiah 46:4; Amos 3:12; Matthew 10:10; Matthew 10:36; 2 Corinthians 1:10; Hebrews 11:32-33; Revelation 19:17
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Samson and Delilah (c. 1609-1610) by Peter Paul Rubens (Flemish, 1577–1640), oil on panel, 185 × 205 cm, National Gallery, London
oh fuck off "vodka with a splash of vodka" was funny