#shipping debate

[sonic-debate-club]

I've seen people get annoyed at how much Rouge is flirting with Espio in the chaotix casefiles but as a shipper I'm having the best moment of my life LMAO.

"But what about Knuckles" this is a team chaotix series, of course the characters will interact more with the main characters be so fr. Though hopefully Rouge will talk to the rest of the team soon (Please make Charmy happy and let him talk to her I feel bad he keeps missing her).

And shipping aside, she's being constantly paired with Espio because his character arc is about his insecurities about his ninja abilities, being in direct contrast with another spy that can do the same things as him but without the inferiority complex IS fuel for the plot. It's not just shipping bait, she's there for a reason and being paired with Espio for a reason. Please just trust the writers for once, she's not there just to look pretty, "Oh all she does in modern Sonic is being a flirt instead of showing her as competent and capable" as she's being constantly compared to Espio as being better than him, be so fr, she's the one getting the clues.

"But it's uncomfortable because he's not interested she's making him uncomfortable" it's valid to feel uncomfortable with all the flirting Rouge is doing, but is it not clear as day that Espio is not even realizing she's flirting? He can't be uncomfortable with it because he doesn't even know that she's interested in him. All he thinks is that she's a thief and wants to distract him from his team so she can do thief stuff behind their back. He's offput by her because he thinks she has evil secret intentions, not because of the flirting.

[roomwithavoid]

“dead dove” is not a warning. it has never been a warning. if you use “dead dove” as a trigger warning you are missing the entire point. the origin of it is that if you see a bag labeled “dead dove” and open it, you should expect to see a dead dove. that’s not how so many of you assholes use it. you expect me to know whatever secret code you came up with and then have the audacity to get upset with me for stumbling across something i didn’t want to see?

putting “dead dove” and nothing else on something is like putting “trigger warning” and not elaborating. you stupid dumb fucks.

[tsbs-shipfessions]

I honestly think the ship vs hate ship debate just boils down to: Some fans see all the DCA models as related. And some fans don't. And that's fine. We can just agree to disagree. I don't know why some people see this as a huge moral debate or turn it into a huge thing. Like we all just like the silly robots from a silly RP-youtube show. "Dont spread hate, just love eachother."

Amen to this one. I still don't understand why a lot of people don't utilize the block button on this site, from both sides of this argument.

[makiruz]

You know I thought I would fall into the umbrella of “pro-shipper” because I think this think of the children arguments are stupid and people should be able to do what they like so long as they don’t harm anyone; except pro-shippers believe media doesn’t affect reality, which I absolutely hate because media absolutely affects reality, I didn’t spent 3 years reading boring media theory for some rando to tell me my entire discipline is wrong

[sonic-debate-club]

I owe Sonelise fans an apology.

I've said they have no chemistry before snd that they only worked in fan content. But after seeing a fan animation of a scene from 06, I've come to the conclusion that the problem with the ship is how the characters moved like empty puppets being moved around by a string. The moment you get Sonic to move like actual Sonic suddenly I like the dynamic and think they're cute

Sonelise is goated lowkey

[sonic-debate-club]

People who say rougamy is pedophilic are just yuriphobic

The yuri anon

Eh, 50/50, I think most people are just still attached to the old canon ages.

Speaking of that, Amy’s age was always bullshit anyways. The was NEVER supposed to be 8 in classic canon, that was a communication mistake. She was designed to be the same age as Sonic. By modern they compromised with 12 as to still have her younger than Sonic but still in the same age range. But she was never wrote as a 12 year old anyways. Characters like her are why I understand why Sega just gave up on ages.

Anyways we need more yuri ships

[sonic-debate-club]

sonic x elise is proof that sega is utterly shit at writing official romances because holy shit when i view the sonic x elise cutscenes, they really don’t come off as romantic! they comes off as more like best friends since sonic literally acts and treats elise as no different from other friends he made befriend before! like no wonder that the damn writers had clarified sonic likes elise back in an outside interview! THE GAME ITSELF DON’T EVEN SHOW THEM AS A DAMN ROMANTIC COUPLE! seriously if you show the cutscenes to non sonic fan, they’d probably think the two are just best friends

everyone wants their fav pair to be canon but quite honestly none of the pairs should be canon because honestly if sonic x elise is how sega writes an official romance pair then i do not trust sega at all and will definitely fucked up said pair

Agree and disagree. I agree that they shouldn’t make pairs canon since it’ll definitely change the character dynamics. But honestly the problem with Sonic and Elise isn’t that Sega is incapable of doing romance, they just aren’t a good couple.

This is not hate against Elise. I actually like her a lot and will defend her to death. But man does she have absolutely NO romantic chemistry with Sonic at all 💔

The writers can do some good romance (personally I find what they do with Vanilla and Vector really funny and adore it) but for the most part I’d rather they just leave shipping for the fans and not make anything canon.