#shipping grade

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Did you ever do Chlobrina for the shipping ask?

Chlobrina, Chlobrina, Chlobrina….

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Cons

Wether if any of us wants to believe it or not….Chlobrina IS toxic. And to be honest, I’m tired of people thinking it’s not toxic or thinking that a couple of nice moments between them, Chloe being nice to her sometimes, or the possibility that Sabrina has a crush on her will change that fact. It doesn’t and it shouldn’t. There, I said it.

You can care about someone, even if it is deep down, but that doesn’t mean that you should be together. It means that you care about someone, that doesn’t mean a relationship between you and that person will work out. Some people just don’t click as a couple.

They are even toxic as a friendship. Chloe treats Sabrina terribly and Sabrina enabled and follows Chloe blindly despite her treatment towards her.

Their friendship isn’t equal at all.

Chloe berates Sabrina constantly (Evillustrator, Antibug, Miraculour, Penalteam etc).

Both Sabrina and Chloe needs to work on theirselves first before getting into a relationship.

Both Chloe and Sabrina are probably better off with other people tbh.

Pros

It’s been theorized that Sabrina’s admiration for Chloe comes from the fact that she has a crush on Chloe.

If Chloe starts to change and realize her wrong doings, she could apologize for the way that she’s treated Sabrina for years and try to start over.

With what I’ve said in Cons said, they DO look cute together.

Sabrina would treat Chloe like her queen 💛

Heck, maybe a Redeemed! Chloe would treat Sabrina like HER queen, realizing that she treated such a sweet and loyal person like garbage 😌😍😁

They do already hang out together and likes/liked to cosplay.

Sabrina could be Queen Bee’s right hand girl.

They could change together? Maybe?

Some people do believe that Chloe cares for Sabrina deep down.

Grade: D (I’m neutral on it)

Conclusion

Look, do I believe Chlobrina should or could work, even if Chloe does redeem? Maybe it could, maybe it couldn’t. I DO like the potential it MIGHT could have, but I think it would be a lot better if they both work on theirselves first. However, it’s really up to the person’s preference. I just don’t like people pretending that the ship isn’t flawed or unhealthy, that’s all.

Afterthought

I’ve watched this cute video of Sabrina getting the dog miraculous and it had a bit of Chloe redemption and slight Chlobrina in it. Maybe if canon handled Chloe’s redemption and Chlobrina a little more like this video did, then MAYBE the ship would score a little bit more points from me, because I actually really enjoyed this video! 😊

Thanks for asking!

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Shipping grade meme

Sabrina/Adrien

Marc/Adrien

Already did Marc x Adrien, so one to Sabrien (Sabrina x Adrien) it is!

Cons

They barley interact (which to me is strange because they both are supposed to be Chloe’s friends?).

They both they have issues that they need to work on.

Because they are friends of Chloe’s, them having a relationship can cause more problems than one.

Pros

I guess they look pretty cute together.

Dog x Cat shipping, since Adrien’s Chat Noir and Sabrina’s Miss Hound.

I imagine Adrien being sweet to Sabrina.

I support them more as a bro ship, but them as a pair doesn’t seem TOO bad. Just have to handled good.

Grade: D (I’m neutral on it)

Conclusion

I guess Sabrien isn’t a bad ship, but it’s not exactly not my cup of tea. They are other Sabrina ships that I like much better, but if you so happen to like these two together, that’s fine! It’s just not for me.

Afterthought

I wonder why people would ship it though? (Not to be rude though)

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Hey there, if you're still doing the MLB shipping ask, how about Lukole(Luka x Chloé) and Chlolix (Chloé x Alix)

Already did Lukole, so Chlolix it is!

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Cons

Chloe is a bully.

They might drive each other insane.

Again, Chloe needs to work on her self before getting into a relationship.

Pros

Alix seems like one of the few characters who can handle Chloe.

It doesn’t seem like Chloe bullies Alix too much if not at all.

It’s a good chance that Chloe’s into assertive people.

People theorized that Chloe and Alix has a history together along with Sabrina, since in the concept, Chloe, Alix, and Sabrina were meant to be a friendship trio. 

Popular girl x Jock trope.

There’s a chance that Chloe might have a soft spot for Alix. It seems like she treats Alix a bit differently than other characters in the show. It could be possible it’s because Alix isn’t putting up with Chloe‘s bullying, but still. There are other theories.

Again, there’s a theory going around that Chloe has a crush on Alix.

My personal opinion, but I really like what @a-chlolix-blog does with the two.

Seems like Alex gets a lot of kicks from Chloe (Queen Banana, Reverser etc.).

Grade: Fanficiton; A (I Love It) Canon; D (I’m neutral on it)

Conclusion

Like many Chloe pairs, they have a nice premise and potential, but it’s about the execution. 

Afterthought

Thomas has no idea how many golden opportunities that he’s throwing away. Chloe redemption, Chloe shipping, just…a lot honestly.

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Marinette x Zoe or Chloe x Marinette?

I'll do both!

First, Marinette x Zoe (Zoenette)

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Cons

-They may be too similar to each other. Sometimes, it just feels like Zoe is a Marinette 2.0 but a weaker version (no offense Zo).

-Zoe barely has any character as it is.

-Marinette likes Adrien.

Pros

-The fact that they are similar might cause them to get close.

-They already work well as friends.

-Some people (including Zoe’s voice actress) theorized that Zoe might have a crush on Marinette, as she blushed at her, they exchanged numbers, got along well and became instant friends in “Sole Crusher”. 

-Marinette seems to like and encourage Zoe a lot and is very passionate about her. 

Grade: Between A (I love it) and B (It's very cute)

Now, for Chloenette....

Cons

-Both girls are hated on a lot as it is, especially Chloe.

-It promotes the “bullies bully their crushes because they like them” idea, which in its self isn’t really a healthy mindset and makes up an excuse for the bully to be a bully.

-Also, even IF that was true (even if Chloe bullied Marinette for years because she did so happen to have a crush on her), it’s still questionable and wrong. Chloe caused pain for Marinette for YEARS. And all because of a crush? Marinette doesn’t HAVE to forgive Chloe or date her. She doesn’t have to DO anything that she doesn’t want to.

-Which also raises another point: people tend to ship it because Marinette can help Chloe redeem. Which, even though I personally think it’s nice, Marinette doesn’t HAVE to. It’s not her job to help her bully redeem, especially if she shows time and time again that she doesn’t want her help or have the need to change.

-Bullying is a form of control and abuse. Even though it would be in the past, it still happened. So Marinette and Chloe COULD have a hard time staying together because of this.

-Both girls need to work on themselves first before getting into any kind of relationship, especially Chloe.

-They both have a crush on Adrien.

-As of Miracle Queen, Chloe is no longer a fan of Ladybug nor Marinette.

Pros

-The main reason for the Chloenette ship in my opinion is for a possible Chloe redemption. Despite what I said above, I DO like this idea in a way. It could show that Marinette always gave Chloe a chance to change despite calling her out, and she always was there for her, even when she didn’t want to be.

-Marinette and Chloe ditching Adrien for each other would be SO hilarious and rich lmao! 

-Good redemption and coming of age fanfics for Chloe and even Marinette!

-Angst. Lots of angst. 

-Marinette seems to be another person who understands Chloe and what she goes through.

-Chloe has mentioned before that Marinette isn’t really a BIG problem to her.

-Chloe (at least in the past) was a HUGE Ladybug fan.

-Some good LGBTQ rep (IF Chloe redeems). 

-They got along well as Ladybug and Queen Bee.

Grade: Canon; D (I don’t really like it) Fanficition/Headcanons; between A (I love it) and B (It’s really cute)

Conclusion

Both Zoenette and Chloenette are very controversial pairs for different reasons. A lot of people love it, a lot of people don’t, and I feel like it’s mostly because of Chloe and Zoe themselves and less Marinette. Ethier way, with the proper writing, I feel like either one of these pairs COULD work out. I’m still routing for all 3 of these girls’ positive development, especially Chloe and Zoe, even if that time never comes lol

Afterthoughts 

Like I basically said above, I find it funny and ironic that both Chloe and Zoe are controversial characters and they are sisters, I guess things really do balance themselves out... 

Thanks for asking! 

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Do Marigami and Lukadrien!

Marigami? Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yessssssssss~❤

Cons:

-Marinette has problems with giving people a chance when it comes to them pursuing Adrien. Kagami also misunderstood Marinette’s true character because of her feelings for Adrien. So in a way, both of them could've been friends from the start if it wasn’t for this misconception and Adrien. 

-Marinette still has her pushy and stalkish ways.

-Kagami has her brutal honesty at times.

-They can be too different.

-Marinette likes Adrien.

Pros:

-They are passed the stage of misunderstandings now. They’re friends and I love every single minute of it ^^

-Marinette just has a crush on Adrien. Who’s to say that she can’t move on from Adrien and find someone better? Someone honest and will be there for her?

-I support the idea of Kagami being Bi or a closet Lesbian.

-Marinette can bring out compassion and a lot more from Kagami while Kagami can teach Marinette how to be more honest with herself, her feelings and be more confident. 

-They are just amazing together in my opinion.

-Jock x Nerd/Dork trope

-Andre the ice cream guy basically hint at it in Love Eater. There was also some Marigami hints/moments in the same episode.

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Grade: A+ (OTP) 

Now Lukadrien!

Cons: 

-Adrien’s father. Whether if Gabriel supports their relationship or not, there’s going to be problems, one way or another.

-Luka has feelings for Marinette, but Marinette has feelings for Adrien. Also, Luka’s more their wingman now.

-They barely interact. 

Pros:

-Luka would be so good at consoling Adrien.

-From the interactions that they did have, they work real well together.

-Like with Marigami, Lukadrien can be like Korrasami.

-I just find them really appealing. It’s cute.

-Adrien’s like another big brother to Juleka! He’s also a good friend to Rose, Juleka’s girlfriend. So yeah, welcome to the family, buddy! lol

Grade: B (It’s really cute)

Conclusion

Both Marigami and Lukadrien are very cute and I honestly wouldn’t mind either or both of them happening over the love sqaure honestly!

Afterthoughts 

It’s SO FUNNY how we are meant to route for the love sqaure, but Marigami and Lukadrien are far more compatible in my opinion. It’s also funny how Luka and Kagami are supposed to be alternative love interest for Marinette and Adrien respectively too lol 

Also, is it just me, or Lukadrien kind of gives me Sean x Finn vibes from Life is Strange? 🤔

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I’ll do MariChat First! :)

Cons:

-They barley have any real romantic moments together due to being the part of the love sqaure where neither one has any real feelings for each other. Chat Noir loves Ladybug while Marinette loves Adrien. We know that Marinette IS Ladybug and Chat Noir IS Adrien, but the characters don’t know that.

-Not REALLY a con per say, but I think it’s part of the love square that’s the most sinful fandom wise.

-Chat’s inability to accept no and that Ladybug doesn‘t love him in the same way that he loves her.

-Marinette’s borderline stalkerish ways. 

-In story, her relationship with a hero can be hard.

Pros:

-I feel that this part of the love sqaure that has the most flaws from both characters, leaving both characters to accept each other with flaws and all. Yes, I do believe in the “true selves” theory. 

-Marinette can be herself around Chat and isn’t a nervous wreak around him. Meanwhile, Chat isn’t really that much of a “nice guy” around Marinette (not that he is around Ladybug but...he kind of is borderline (borderline “nice guy” isn’t the same as IS “nice guy”). 

-Chat Noir can learn that Ladybug isn’t prefect and Marinette can learn that Chat Noir has been the one who has truly been by her side, her hero, in and out of Ladybug. 

-They can be buddies too, eating Marinette’s bakery goods, watching Netflix and chill🙂

-Marinette has stated that if it wasn’t for having feelings for Adrien, she would consider Chat Noir as a possible love interest. 

-Augst. LOTS of augst. 

-It’s just very cute and appealing to me ^^

Grade: Between A (I Love It) and B (It’s really cute)

Now DJWifi...

Cons: 

-Them getting together was kind of rushed.

-Them knowing each other’s identities COULD put them in danger in many ways. 

Pros:

-They get along VERY well.

-They can defeat any evil with the power of love 🥰🥰🥰

Grade: C (Not a Bad Ship)

Conclusions:

MariChat is probably my favorite part of the Love Sqaure and even though I’m not a BIG fan DJWifi, it’s still not a bad ship to me!

Afterthoughts:

Can’t really think of any right now lol

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Send me a Miraculous Ladybug ship and I’ll grade it...

A+: OTP

A: I love it

B: It’s really cute

C: Not a bad ship

D: I’m neutral on it

E: I don’t really like it

F: NOTP

N/A: I don’t know it well enough.

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Alix x sabrina ship

Sabrina x Alix? Interesting...

Cons:

-They barley interact or have any moments together.

-Sabrina has helped bully the whole class alongside Chloe, possibly Alix as well.

Pros:

-Alix could help Sabrina grow a spine, stand up to Chloe and leave her. It can also help Sabrina break that “servant role”.

-It’s possible that Sabrina supports Alix on the sidelines.

-Nice Girl/Guy x Bad Boy/Girl trope.

-I feel that the two can have nice times together, as friends or/and as a couple.

-They do look cute together.

-Both strong small beans 🥺

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Grade: C (Not a bad ship)

Conclusion:

Sabrina x Alix is...cute. I wish they at least have some more moments together to get more invested in it.

Afterthought:

Anything for Sabrina is good honestly...