#grade meme

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

Marinette x Zoe or Chloe x Marinette?

I'll do both!

First, Marinette x Zoe (Zoenette)

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Cons

-They may be too similar to each other. Sometimes, it just feels like Zoe is a Marinette 2.0 but a weaker version (no offense Zo).

-Zoe barely has any character as it is.

-Marinette likes Adrien.

Pros

-The fact that they are similar might cause them to get close.

-They already work well as friends.

-Some people (including Zoe’s voice actress) theorized that Zoe might have a crush on Marinette, as she blushed at her, they exchanged numbers, got along well and became instant friends in “Sole Crusher”. 

-Marinette seems to like and encourage Zoe a lot and is very passionate about her. 

Grade: Between A (I love it) and B (It's very cute)

Now, for Chloenette....

Cons

-Both girls are hated on a lot as it is, especially Chloe.

-It promotes the “bullies bully their crushes because they like them” idea, which in its self isn’t really a healthy mindset and makes up an excuse for the bully to be a bully.

-Also, even IF that was true (even if Chloe bullied Marinette for years because she did so happen to have a crush on her), it’s still questionable and wrong. Chloe caused pain for Marinette for YEARS. And all because of a crush? Marinette doesn’t HAVE to forgive Chloe or date her. She doesn’t have to DO anything that she doesn’t want to.

-Which also raises another point: people tend to ship it because Marinette can help Chloe redeem. Which, even though I personally think it’s nice, Marinette doesn’t HAVE to. It’s not her job to help her bully redeem, especially if she shows time and time again that she doesn’t want her help or have the need to change.

-Bullying is a form of control and abuse. Even though it would be in the past, it still happened. So Marinette and Chloe COULD have a hard time staying together because of this.

-Both girls need to work on themselves first before getting into any kind of relationship, especially Chloe.

-They both have a crush on Adrien.

-As of Miracle Queen, Chloe is no longer a fan of Ladybug nor Marinette.

Pros

-The main reason for the Chloenette ship in my opinion is for a possible Chloe redemption. Despite what I said above, I DO like this idea in a way. It could show that Marinette always gave Chloe a chance to change despite calling her out, and she always was there for her, even when she didn’t want to be.

-Marinette and Chloe ditching Adrien for each other would be SO hilarious and rich lmao! 

-Good redemption and coming of age fanfics for Chloe and even Marinette!

-Angst. Lots of angst. 

-Marinette seems to be another person who understands Chloe and what she goes through.

-Chloe has mentioned before that Marinette isn’t really a BIG problem to her.

-Chloe (at least in the past) was a HUGE Ladybug fan.

-Some good LGBTQ rep (IF Chloe redeems). 

-They got along well as Ladybug and Queen Bee.

Grade: Canon; D (I don’t really like it) Fanficition/Headcanons; between A (I love it) and B (It’s really cute)

Conclusion

Both Zoenette and Chloenette are very controversial pairs for different reasons. A lot of people love it, a lot of people don’t, and I feel like it’s mostly because of Chloe and Zoe themselves and less Marinette. Ethier way, with the proper writing, I feel like either one of these pairs COULD work out. I’m still routing for all 3 of these girls’ positive development, especially Chloe and Zoe, even if that time never comes lol

Afterthoughts 

Like I basically said above, I find it funny and ironic that both Chloe and Zoe are controversial characters and they are sisters, I guess things really do balance themselves out... 

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What do you think of FlashSpruce??

Ok, FlashSpruce...let’s see....

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Flash Sentry x Timber Spruce

Pros:

-When you really think about it, Their personalities compliment each other.

-They look cute together.

-It’s a mlm pair. We need more representation!

-They can make for a funny dynamic. 

-They generally look cute together. 

-A friendship and relationship between them could be interesting.

-It goes against what others try to do: pin the boys against each other. 

-If Sci and Sunny can get together, then why not Flashy and Tim Tim?

-Both boys need more love!

Cons:

-It’s pair the spares, just to get the two away from Sci-Twi and Sunset.

-They can clash due to their personalities.

-They barely interact. 

-We don’t know of their relationship in the show, despite showing them interacting.

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Grade: B (It’s really cute)

Conclusion:

Another pairing with a lot of potential! It’s indeed a cute ship. 

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[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

Do Marigami and Lukadrien!

Marigami? Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yessssssssss~❤

Cons:

-Marinette has problems with giving people a chance when it comes to them pursuing Adrien. Kagami also misunderstood Marinette’s true character because of her feelings for Adrien. So in a way, both of them could've been friends from the start if it wasn’t for this misconception and Adrien. 

-Marinette still has her pushy and stalkish ways.

-Kagami has her brutal honesty at times.

-They can be too different.

-Marinette likes Adrien.

Pros:

-They are passed the stage of misunderstandings now. They’re friends and I love every single minute of it ^^

-Marinette just has a crush on Adrien. Who’s to say that she can’t move on from Adrien and find someone better? Someone honest and will be there for her?

-I support the idea of Kagami being Bi or a closet Lesbian.

-Marinette can bring out compassion and a lot more from Kagami while Kagami can teach Marinette how to be more honest with herself, her feelings and be more confident. 

-They are just amazing together in my opinion.

-Jock x Nerd/Dork trope

-Andre the ice cream guy basically hint at it in Love Eater. There was also some Marigami hints/moments in the same episode.

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Grade: A+ (OTP) 

Now Lukadrien!

Cons: 

-Adrien’s father. Whether if Gabriel supports their relationship or not, there’s going to be problems, one way or another.

-Luka has feelings for Marinette, but Marinette has feelings for Adrien. Also, Luka’s more their wingman now.

-They barely interact. 

Pros:

-Luka would be so good at consoling Adrien.

-From the interactions that they did have, they work real well together.

-Like with Marigami, Lukadrien can be like Korrasami.

-I just find them really appealing. It’s cute.

-Adrien’s like another big brother to Juleka! He’s also a good friend to Rose, Juleka’s girlfriend. So yeah, welcome to the family, buddy! lol

Grade: B (It’s really cute)

Conclusion

Both Marigami and Lukadrien are very cute and I honestly wouldn’t mind either or both of them happening over the love sqaure honestly!

Afterthoughts 

It’s SO FUNNY how we are meant to route for the love sqaure, but Marigami and Lukadrien are far more compatible in my opinion. It’s also funny how Luka and Kagami are supposed to be alternative love interest for Marinette and Adrien respectively too lol 

Also, is it just me, or Lukadrien kind of gives me Sean x Finn vibes from Life is Strange? 🤔

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

Here's a ship.

Sabrina and Delmar (Delbrina)?

I didn't like the New York Special that much, but their scenes were cute.

Same here, anon. I didn't like the special too much neither, but mostly because I feel like it was pointless.

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Now, if Sabrina x Delmar. Hmmm....

Cons:

-They live in completely different countries.

-Delmar looks like a college student to me (yes I know he's a middle school/high school student, but still).

-Delmar has no real depth nor personality other than being a love interest for Sabrina. He doesn't feel like a real character (I think the reason for this was because there wasn't enough time in the movie, but it still sucks).

-Sabrina didn't NEED a love interest to get screentime and development.

-I feel there are other cute pairs for Sabrina.

Pros:

-I admit, they DO seem cute. At least a little.

-They both are pretty undeveloped, so maybe they deserve each other?

-It's something NICE for Sabrina and ONLY her, not Chloe or anyone else.

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Grade: D (I’m neutral on it)

Conclusion:

Not really my cup of tea, but if i's something for Sabrina, then I'm for it!

Afterthought:

If I had to really think about a way for them to be together, even Delmar should move to France or Sabrina would move to New York.

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TimberTwi and SunAria?

Hmmm...I’ll do both! Why not?

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TimberTwi

Pros:

-They get along pretty well.

-They’re both a pair of goofy intelligent dorky dorks! ^^

-They are adorable together.

-It’s a nice change from popular pairs like Flashlight and SciSet.

-Fankids for them is interesting.

-The pair and Timber himself is often hated for unjustified reasons. Makes me feel sorry for him and the pair sometimes.

-They have fun being together.

-It shows that Sci-Twi has a type and she’s different from Princess Twilight. 

Cons:

-They are the same in some ways, but also different.

-They can clash due to their different personalities and interest. 

-They are probably together for now just to have fun. The relationship probably won’t last (not that it’s a bad thing or anything).

-Some say it’s rushed/forced (which I once believed, but it’s not that simple now).

-Some may don’t like Timber with Sci-Twi because he’s a “flirt/slacker” and he replaces Flash Sentry (which I once did believe, but not anymore). 

-Sometimes, it seems like Sci-Twi is OOC when around Timber.

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Grade: C (Not a bad ship)

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SunAria

Pros:

-Both badass biker chicks? Why not?

-They both could bring the best out of each other.

-The sass and smoothness are strong for both of them.

-I feel like they could really have fun with each other.

-There’s so much potential within them both, that neither one knows what to expect from each other.

-Aria probably can see Sunset’s feistiness as a turn on lol

-They generally look good together.

-They could make some interesting fankids.

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Cons:

-They are enemies in canon.

-Things probably won’t work out.

-It’s hard to change what someone’s been about for years, especially in Aria’s (possible) case. If Aria (and the other two Dazzlings) really lived for thousands of years in the human world like many think, then redemption/reformation for Aria Blaze could be hard. 

-Relationships are built on trust. Can Sunset really trust Aria? Maybe even vice-versa?

-They barely have any interaction in canon, so it’s really hard to tell if they would truly be a perfect match. Their relationship dynamic is mostly built entirely on people’s interpretation of it. 

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Grade: Between A (I Love It) and B (It’s Really Cute)

Conclusion:

TimberTwi is a cute and interesting pair. In the past, I liked it, but then it was neutral, then I disliked it, but then I was neutral on it again. Even though I prefer other pairs being canon over it, I don’t really mind TimberTwi that much anymore.

As for SunAria, It’s an interesting pair that has a lot of potential to be good.

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[whoson1st]

Rose x Clara

F: NOTP

There is no way in any universe that I could see that happening ever.  First of all, Rose has never given ANY SORT of evidence pointing to her being bi.  Second of all...just no.  All the no.

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What do you think about the Gwen/Jack OTP?

ehhhhh...E, I guess.

I seem to be answering that a lot.

I know people ship it, and I guess I see why, but I'm not at all a fan.  And the ship seems largely based on the forced sexual tension in the chaotic mess that was season 1 of Torchwood, and I tend to pretend that never happened, so yeah.  Definitely not a ship I enjoy.

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Romeo and Juliet.

I don't even know.  E, I guess?

They're just SO STUPID.  And there's precious few people around them that aren't.  And everyone died.

Like.

Why do people still think this is a love story?

It's a tragedy involving stupid people being stupid and pulling everyone around them down with them.

IT'S NOT A LOVE STORY.