#spn12x21

[drfrankensteinvsthequeerborgs]

Lady Toni Bevell: "What, your boys didn't tell you? The drunken rages, the weeks of abandonment, child abuse really. It's no wonder they're damaged."

the fact that even the villains are like wtaf j*hn

[meat-meat-baby-meat]

Dean Winchester丨SPN12x21

[crowleyshellhoundspn]

The truth behind this possible event in (12X21) Spoilers ahead

So before I explain this possible quote from Dean to Mary, I wanna say this. To all the Mary haters out there, while Dean saying this to Mary might make you happy. It really shouldn’t, due to many reasons but due to my follow explanation is the main reason. So if you do not like Mary this post is not gonna make you happy, if you are on the fence it might help you understand her better, if you like her well your gonna read this anyway. 

But please I hope I read this because its piecing together a story line people seem to keep forgetting. Let’s begin!

As for the possible confrontation coming up between Mary and Dean in episode 21 of this season, that doesn’t surprise me. 

I was at Houscon17 and we were the first convention that got Samantha Smith since her coming back on the show. Me knowing she is an avid fan of the show and wanting to see if my perceptions of Mary were on the same level as Samantha’s I got her meet and greet; I am so glad I did because it was amazing!

We all had so many questions, but I had one that I wanted her opinion on and it relates to this quote nearly exactly. I asked Samantha this, “ How much is Mary aware of when it comes to what Sam and Dean have been through?

We already saw her afraid to face Sam in episode 2 of this season ( I am adding this in as a reminder, I didn’t quote the show to her, lol!) when she told Dean ‘ And when we do find Sam... how am I gonna face him? 

Dean: What do you mean? 

Mary: That yellow-eyed thing would never have come for him that night if I... I started all of this.’

Does she know all the facts?”

Samantha said this, “ She doesn’t have all the facts. She knows that Azazel killed her and whatever he did caused a ripple affected in the boys lives, but passed that she doesn’t know anything that is not written in Johns Journal.” Also as an aside; she was about to film the episode “The Raid” at the time of this conversation.

So I would say she may or may not know more now that she has been at the BMOL; but we do not know if she decided to look up her boys history and the BMOL may have been keeping it from her; but those questions are not the point of this post.

The point of this post is to explain how what happened on November 2,1983 was not all Mary’s fault and by Dean saying this to her its affect is to hurt her emotionally. While I understand there is probably a very good reason for him to state this, I wanna show the fandom the story line of how Mary was just a pawn in a complex game of chess.

Let’s begin:

Mary is still holding on to that guilt that she started all this, hence the reason I believe Dean says it to hurt her. Dean and Mary are very much alike and she has not let go of this belief that she caused Sam and Dean to be hunters. But we are gonna go by the time line of facts!

1. Season 4 Episode 3 “In the Beginning”- what “really happened”

Dean is thrown back in time by the angels to the November 1973 where he finds out that Mary used to be a hunter. By Dean going back in time and trying to save his mother he set off a small ripple of effects. His interference and I hate doing a Kutcher reference but, “You totally Butterfly-Effected history.”-Sam (6.17). One could say that if Dean had not been sent back in time, then Mary would not have landed on Azazel’s radar, therefore she would have never been targeted. But let’s play devils advocate here.

We can go “Occam's razor” approach. Meaning the simplest solution is the right one. So let’s say that Dean going back in time doesn’t make a difference, Azazel and Mary still would have met and all events would have occurred. Which leads us to the next obvious issue.

2. The birth of Sam and Dean Winchester was top priority in Heaven

We learn in Season 5 Episode 14 “ My Bloody Valentine” we learn some back history from a Cupid.

Dean: Why does heaven care if Harry meets Sally? 

Cupid: Oh, mostly they don't. You know, certain bloodlines, certain destinies. Oh, like yours. The union of John and Mary Winchester--Very big deal upstairs, top priority arrangement. 

Dean: Are you saying that you fixed-up our parents? 

Cupid: Well, not me, but... Yeah. Well, it wasn't easy, either. Ooh, they couldn't stand each other at first. But when we were done with them--Perfect couple. I'm sorry, but... the orders were very clear. You and Sam needed to be born. Your parents were just, uh...meant to be. 

So add this to your information. Sam and Dean HAD to be born. So one can conclude that while yes on the surface you can just blame Mary, but if your willing to look deeper you see its more complicated. It wasn’t Mary’s, Dean’s, Azazel’s, Heaven, or Hell’s; it was destinies fault. 

Destiny caused the Winchesters fate. Because up until Chuck aka God decided to let free will into the picture sadly destiny was playing itself out.

Also it says that Sam is not in this scene. I am going to be completely honest here, Sam doesn’t blame Mary because he understands what its like to make bad decisions if he believes it for the ultimate good; “cough” Season 4.

So take the clues I have pointed out and either accept them or ignore them; you are entitled to your own opinion. I have been rewatching S12 and I liked Mary from the start. I like that the writers did not make her this perfect mother that Dean always remembered. That she is human. She has flaws and just like Sam and Dean sometimes it takes someone some time to realize what decisions are the right ones and which are the wrong. 

I can already here people going, but she joined the BMOL! They tortured Sam, they put Sam and Dean in danger, she left them, this was a bad choice. I saw this to you.

If you woke up tomorrow morning and it was 33 years later and you were now talking to your older children, everyone including your husband is dead and gone. Would you be ok? You say you wouldn’t walk out of your kids lives, but your not in her position. To me she didn’t leave them, she need time to adjust.

As for putting Sam and Dean and Castiel in danger in Season 12 Episode 12 “Stuck in the Middle (With you); she made her point to Ketch very clear.

Mary: Anything like that happens again -- anything -- and I will burn you down. All of you.

Ketch: Is that a threat?

Mary: It's a promise.

Lastly, everyone seems to forget what she told Sam in front of the BMOL set up in Season 12 episode 14 “The Raid”- this scene right here told me all I needed to know.

Mary to Sam: “A world where you and Dean don't have to hunt, where you can have normal lives. I chose this life. I know. But you were going to school, to college. And I get why you gave it up. But what if you didn't have to? What if there was a different future for you, for us? That's why I'm doing this. That is what I'm fighting for.”

[sinditia]

Supernatural 12x21

I came into this episode knowing that (spoiler alert) Eileen dies, but I didn’t expect it to happen in literally the first two minutes of the episode like some no-name case of the week victim.  It’s not so much the fact that she dies that I hate, it’s more on how it’s presented, like it’s not a big deal.  In fact, I hate how pretty much all deaths are presented this way in Supernatural. But I suppose that’s to do with the basic structure of this show, how it’s not an ensemble cast and we just have a core few characters who we know will NEVER die (and if they do, they’ll just come back in some way) and a sprinkling of recurring characters who we don’t see very often and doesn’t get much in the way of character development.  

In terms of screentime and storyline, Eileen Leahy isn’t a major character at all.  But as an audience member, it’s so refreshing for me to see this strong, deaf, female hunter who could be a possible love interest for Sam.  Like, I want to see that fleshed out so bad.  And if you must kill her off, please for the love of God give her the death she deserves and not just leave her on a slab in the morgue as a plot device.  There’s just so many deaths in this show, which fine, makes sense in the canon, but like everyone seems so desensitized now that whenever someone dies, the boys just make sad faces and say hollow words of comfort and move on.  I hate that death is not a big deal anymore.

I’m so done with the BMOL storyline, to be honest.  I don’t find it intriguing or compelling.  It’s like season 4 of Buffy, there’s just something off about trying to institutionalize the supernatural and it’s hard to make that work because it loses that visceral, raw quality of “things that go bump in the night”.  I dunno.  And I’m so sick of hearing that generic, posh, British accent, like, I don’t think the actors actually talk like that in real life.  And for God’s sake why do they keep reminding us that Lady Bevell and Ketch fucked?  It grosses me out.  Like I don’t think I’m a prude, sex jokes are fine, but somehow these BMOL people makes it sound so gross and sleazy.

Okay, so good things about the episode.  I thought the scene with Mary and Ketch in the BMOL HQ was the best part of the episode. Sam and David played out that scene really well.  I was like, yess, Mary play those Ketchy strings, and David subtly showed us just enough cracks into Ketch that I hope will be unraveled a bit more.  I also thought the exchange between Crowley and Doctor Hess was kind of interesting, but I doubt they will explore that any further, which is a shame.  I wished the action scene at the end was a bit longer.  The bunker is the Winchesters’ home turf so I wished they could have used that to their advantage against the BMOL’s more sophisticated weaponry. I also like it when Lucifer flexed his wings and his eyes get glowy.  Like that’s just so my aesthetic.  

Okay and finally, I’m going to leave my neutral territory and say how much it broke my heart to see Dean running up the bunker stairs after his mom.  He just watched two of the people he cares about most get brainwashed and not recognize him and go against him and my heart just fuckin breaks for him.  

[jesterofalltrades]

Just kill her now boys. just kill her now. If you two don’t I will gladly do it for you. 

[legosandanarmyman]

What I liked about There’s Something about Mary...

The letter from Eileen and Sam’s reaction to it :’(

...

                                                       QUOTES

Crowley:  The Winchester’s love slave...Castiel.

Eileen: Can I bunk with you for a few days while I sort this out?

Notes:    So the  thing is… because of the writers we pretty much knew this was happening.  We really, really hope they wouldn’t..but we knew it was a very real probability.   They cannot say that it was to surprise us or keep it alive.  It only made us angry and disappointed.

[meat-meat-baby-meat]

Dean Winchester丨SPN12x21

[meat-meat-baby-meat]

Dean Winchester丨SPN12x21