awake getting emo about shakespeare naming hamlet after his late son to his preserve his memory in some small way - in a story about a son mourning his father, the way the world should work - and the play going on to become The most famous piece of literature in the western canon. ‘you’re never really gone until everyone forgets your name’ and now his baby is immortal 🫠
im glad we're talking about this because i have a lot of thoughts about arrogant shane and especially him as an autistic child not understanding that it's not considered polite to say youre better than everyone else (why cant i say that??? i am factually better than all the other kids on my peewee team. i am the best at hockey why cant i say that???) and how such a big part of masking for him is putting constant effort into being more humble than he really feels
truly cannot state enough how much i enjoy how the characters in bg3 look like they’re Actual Adult people. i go wild about it. i’ve never been hornier. cannot empathize with the people who complain about the lines and wrinkles
Welcome to my desperate attempts to put Pruelle in a dress to figure out which period the fashion in Turning (manhwa) fits best.
Disclaimer that I am not at all a fashion expert.
This is all on the assumption that the Orr Empire is based on Europe (most likely Western Europe).
Military uniforms
The uniforms read 19th century to me. See for example here the Austria-Hungary 1856 and the USA General Officer (bottom row, right). More matching are these uniforms from the American Civil War (1860s).
Kishiar’s uniforms tend to have frogging (17th-19th). He also wears fringed epaulettes (17th-19th). Cavalry members wear shoulder boards or marks, which are modern (20th century).
Menswear
The menswear usually consists of a white shirt with a dark-colored vest with dark pants, and with either a jacket (dark color) or a longer coat, and usually with a white cravat—however, the cravat has traversed the ages from the 17th to the 19th century, so this doesn’t really clear up anything.
In other cases, we end up with things like this:
X marks the spot? I have no idea what I’m looking at.
Honorable mention: Count Gallon (chapter 38)
A coat with flared sleeves alongside a… robe? A white robe with a high collar. A waistband with a tassel. He either has sleeve ruffles or engageantes, which could date him as far back as the 1770s-1780s (but they were also used in the 19th century).
To be honest I didn’t look too into it, I’ll just assume Count Gallon wears outdated clothes. I just wanted to include him because he looks so out of place.
Womenswear
Apart from the generic “peasant clothes” (white shirt + dark pants / dark skirt with a white apron—you know the type; the “rofan pauper”) or the occasional maid and servant outfits, we’ve had a few instances of noble dresses.
Empress Rosa (Chapter 37)
Tight collar, puffed sleeves with flared cuffs, matching bodice and skirt. A grey shawl (popular 1850-1870). There’s no pattern or embroidery anywhere, which is either a stylistic choice from the manhwa artist or an indication of Rosa’s personality. Her hair is tied tightly in a bun with no headwear.
This particular outfit reminds me of the sportswear of the 1890s (1, 2). (As for why the empress would wear sportswear, I don’t know.)
Dermilla (Chapter 59)
Tight collar, puffed sleeves that might be gigot sleeves, most likely wearing multiple petticoats or a crinoline, and some sort of shawl tied into a bow at the waist… what? Her hair is (mostly) loose, but we should all know not to expect historical hairstyles for important characters anyway.
If anyone can tell me what is happening concerning her chemise/bodice situation, please do tell. It reminds me of jumps (18th century), but the lack of straps confuses me, and jumps usually revealed more décolleté. The lack of buttons or lacing can be explained for stylistic reasons.
Cashmere shawls became popular in Western Europe at the beginning of the 19th century. Perhaps that’s what she’s wearing at the waist?
(To note that we do see a hint of her shoes (not pictured here because I hit the limit) but I couldn’t figure out what they were…)
Background extras
Let’s go one by one.
This lady in pink wears the same kind of sleeve as the empress. She has a pink bodice and skirt, with V-shaped opening at the front that reveals a stomacher. Petticoat with (probably) a crinoline or bustle underneath (hard to tell the exact shape). The white overskirt behind her is most likely a bustle.
Bustles started getting more popular in the 1870s, but by that time, stomachers (18th century) were no longer popular.
Chokers seem to have also been popular in the 18th century (1760s).
Her friend in black has a high collar dress with a black overskirt. This type of hat seems to have become popular in the 19th century (see this hat from the Kyoto Costume Institute).
The older lady in black and gold in the back confuses me even more. Puffed sleeves that flare out slightly at the cuffs, detached but matching bodice and skirt (you can very faintly see a line separating them) with a white petticoat and… it’s not a stomacher, so what is it?
If they do not have bustles, then they at least have overskirts.
This lady has a puffed sleeve and flared cuffs jacket over a white, high-collar shirt. To me this indicates 1880s to early 20th century.
I invite you to take a look at A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.
These two ladies (Kanna’s half-sisters, chapter 38) continue the trend of bustle/crinoline and overskirt. The sister in pink seems to have either pagoda (1860s) or bell sleeves.
TL;DR
I assume that the fashion in Turning (manhwa) is inspired by 1880s to 1900s Western European fashion.
I am basing this conclusion on the high collars and the bustles/overskirts the noble ladies wear. Overall the fashion is a little all over the place and difficult to pin down. I can only assume that the designs weren’t made to fit one era in particular, but rather ‘rofan’ fashion—or at least, that 6초’s designs weren’t restricted to one era only.
If you are more knowledgeable in historical fashion, please do correct me!
Weeks into the job, Joey still hadn't been sure if it was the right move. The people were strange, the boss was an asshole, and he just couldn't seem to find his place. Despite uncertainly, there was a lot to prove - to his family, to himself, to every person here that seemed to give him shit. He could do this, and he could do this well just like his last job.
Between dry New Mexico heat and his 5th rep with an optimistic amount of weight, there's sweat pooling between his lower back and the bench below him. It drips from his forehead into wavy hair.
One last set and he'll be done, he promises himself. Will reward himself with a cigarette and a glass of wine his ma sent with him.
Until he pushes the barbell up to rack it and his arms falter, shake with exhaustion. He has enough sense to catch it before the thing topples, but the sudden movement now has it laying directly on his chest. There's a heavy realization that with every staggered breath, the weights press further into his lungs, restricting his ability to call for help even if he wanted to.
The gym’s a good place to go when you need to forget, momentary distraction coming with the repeated movements of lifting weights and doing pull ups until your muscles burn.
That’s not what Kai’s there for, but he’s well aware that that reasoning belongs to plenty of the soldiers around him. So, ‘Keeping an eye out for my fellow shadows’ is what he tells himself is why he’s been sitting on one of the mats for 10 minutes now. With his workout done, he knows he needs to keep busy somehow.
It felt like he wasn’t needed since about 9 minutes ago, however, so he’s just about to take his leave. Until theres the telltale sound of grunt more pained than the others, punched from someone’s lungs like- ah.
Like a saving grace, just as it would seem to Joey like he was done for, the weight on his chest is lifted and racked by two big burly hands. The face of Kaipo Morgan is peeking over the bar soon after, looking down at Joey with a cheerfulness not exactly fit for the situation.
“Ho brah! Got too ambitious, did you?” Kai’s cheering with a friendly smile, offering a hand down to the other. “Howzit! You all good?”
i just think it’s really fucked up that nyatchi is japan exclusive. he is so fucking cute. why can’t i have him on the english tamagotchi p2. i want him.