#thirteenth prime

[tigressaofkanjis]

Actual canon btw

[galaxyforu]

amalgamous prime is a cool ass mf

bonus primes

would u guys like it if I posted more often?? idk lol 💀

[witchofthesouls]

I bury my teeth into the thought where Megatronus Prime calls Optimus 'little brother,' not out of mockery for the newest Champion ordained by Prima but because Optimus is supposed to be a reincarnated Thirteen -the youngest Prime.

Thirteen is not Prima. They don't have the same powers nor Aspects as the Eldest.

It's all mirrors and reflections and foils. A Champion of Prima to the true Megatronus Prime. A Prime that went through the Well to stay with Cybertron and the Prime that decidedly went away. The weakest to the most powerful. A Prime that never truly ascended to their true potential and forgot himself to the one that intimately knew exactly what he was the moment he stepped into existence. The Prime that time forgot and The Fallen.

[yinandyang1]

So if you've watched TFA you know the Prime is a military title, but what if it wasn't just a military title but the title was stolen and used as a military title to get rid of the history of the 13 Primes of Old (the 13 original)

So Primus wakes up or something and sees how shitty Cybertron's become and decides to reincarnat his first creations (with there consent of course) and he knew Alpha Trion would be extadic to have his siblings back. And of course Optimus is the reincarnation of 13, but has to hide it till the time is right. Cause due to the fact of Cybertron barring the 13 if ge revealed himself to the council he'd most likely be killed or something.

So it just goes like this

Optimus; on earth thinking: I know creator, and Alpha said to keep it a secret but it wouldn't hurt to tell them right? I mean we're not on Cybertron.

A few minutes later

Optimus: Ratchet, I really need to talk to you privately.

Ratchet: Sure kid whatcha need

Optimus: Well..... do u know about the Primes of old?

Ratchet: I've heard bits and peices why?

Optimus: ok so thus might sound crazy but I do have proof, I am the 13th prime. *Optimus reverts back to his original frame.

Ratchet: Holy scrap kid.. if anyone on Cybertron finds out you could be- be

Optimus: Killed, or imprisoned I know, but I feel like I can trust you Ratchet.... don't make me regret this please.

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Like just imagin if Megatron knew about the Primes of old and only respected then and found out the one who could defeat him has the youngest true Prime, and that Optimus/13 was possibly holding back so he didn't get discovered. It would be better if one of the Decepticons were a reincarnation of one of the 13 original Primes.

[mountaingutta]

Orpheus and Eurydice this, Hades and Persephone that...

I'm alive, and I'm back to my usual nonsense and this post was inspired by the myths of Hyacinthus and Adonis (though only the core concept survived the adaptation)

So:

Optimus|The Thirteenth Prime as the love-struck deity

Ratchet as his mortal beloved

Place and time: Cybertron, a very, very long time ago

The Thirteenth was restless. Though he had surrendered his spark to the Well of AllSparks after the deaths of his siblings, descending with their bodies to his father, he would still slip away from the realm beyond now and then.

He was his father's most beloved child, adored by his siblings, and so his mischief was always forgiven. No one knew his name, nor the face beneath the eternal radiance that surrounded him. The Thirteenth never lingered in one place — instead, he wandered among mortal beings, assuming their form.

Medicine had only just begun to evolve as a craft and a science, and this young medic stood out among his comrades. They said he could pull a spark straight from the AllSparks. He travelled across the planet in search of knowledge, but always returned to his native settlement.

And so it happened that, on one of his journeys, they met. No one knows the circumstances, or why. But from that day on, they were nearly constant companions.

Their bond grew stronger and so did the medic's skill. For, as has been said, the Thirteenth was fond of him. He pleaded with his elder siblings to teach his beloved, and he revealed secrets no mortal should ever know.

Despite his love for the divine, the medic became prideful. Whenever someone claimed his talents were a gift from Solus, he would scoff indignantly and insist they were the fruit of his own hard labor. He showed no reverence to any of the Primes, nor to Primus himself in fact, he went so far as to deny their very existence.

Yet the Thirteenth never grew angry at his proud beloved. But others — other mortals — did. Their sparks grew thick with envy and rage. How could this pitiful medic have drawn the favor of a Prime, been granted what most could only dream of and still deny it?

The fury grew. And when the Thirteenth set off on another journey, leaving his lover behind, the other medics carried out what they believed to be justice. They brutally murdered the young medic. Some claim they tore him apart while he still lived, hoping to extract from his still-warm helm the secrets gifted by the gods.

When the Thirteenth returned to his beloved, overcome with longing, he did not find him. He searched and asked every passerby, “Have you seen my beloved?” But the Prime did not know he was questioning the very ones who had murdered the one he loved. And they only replied, “He went on a journey, couldn’t wait for you, and said nothing of when he’d return.”

Upon hearing this, the Prime set out to search. He wandered across the planet, asking every passerby, “Have you seen my beloved?” But none could help him. Despair consumed his spark, and in one final flicker of hope, he returned to their home, praying his beloved would be there. He returned in secret — no one knew. And because of this, he learned the bitter truth.

In grief and fury, the Prime obliterated the entire settlement—spared no one, least of all the killers of his beloved. And when the rage passed, all that remained was a crater. Those who survived brought him the medic's remains. And at last, he declared:

“I return to my father. This world, this people, are dear to me no longer. May sorrow, death, and misfortune befall you — for I shall not return. Not until my beloved rises again from the AllSparks.”

And he vanished in a vortex of radiance, bearing the remnants of his beloved. In the wake of his departure bloomed miraculous flowers, which the survivors carried across Cybertron and named ivyatsa.

[glitch--mouse]

Found out that the thirteen Primes have canon holomatters avatars and they are based on greek and roman gods. The implications of these are really fun to think about 👀

Prima - Zeus

Vector - Hermes

Alpha Trion - Athena

Solus - Hephaestus

Micronus - Pan

Alchemist - Bacchus

Nexus - Juno

Onyx - Artemis

Amalgamous - Poseidon

Quintus - Janus

Maximo - Aphrodite

Megatronus - Ares

The Arisen - Heracles

[cherrytimemachine]

D-16 should’ve just straight up been called Dion in TFOne. Like go big or go home. It was awkward how he was the only guy in his friend group going by his serial number. Not counting B-127 whose been stuck by himself. Maybe they can explore this in future G1 adaptions. Have future!Megatron kill his younger self and have him sent into the past to be rebuilt by the Constructicons and be the Decepticons’ answer to Optimus Prime. A lot of timeline bs but that episode was crazy anyway.

That is actually a really interesting idea. I've never thought about making D-16 actually be Dion, though I understand the thought process considering he basically took the place of Dion in Transformers One.

I do wish they had Dion in there, and it would be an interesting plot idea to have him travel back to kill his past self like the Aerialbots did when they witnessed the death of Orion Pax. Or they could do it like the MTMTE comic where Megatron goes back to try and kill Orion Pax to stop him from posing a threat to his plan like Brainstorm trying to kill young Megatron. Their use of Zeta Prime as the Thirteenth Prime was definitely an interesting change to the lore, and I'm interested to see if a franchise forms from it.

[theoldspark]