Did you see the craziness that happened with tkkrs/jjks and the harper’s bazaar interview? The magazine even apologized and had to share another clip of that part of the interview where you can clearly see jk actually does say jimin.
I don’t understand why is such a big deal to these people that jk said he also relies on jimin when like not that long ago both rm and yoongi said the same thing, it’s basically known at this point that the guys all rely on jimin at hard times, they have all said similar things at one point or another.
its even weird i havent seen one normal working adult in tkkrs.
Maybe im generalizing but everytime i see a tkkr on tl. Either its from older generation who still treats life as telenova, 12 yr olds who are easily manipulated or ladies who are either comes from a broken family or in an unhealthy relationship which makes them project those frustration onto Jimin and his family. Ik they have women who are working as teachers etc but if you really store tkk pron in your work laptop which your elementary students plays accidentally are they really 'normal' ?
I hate that I’m chronically online enough to know who you’re referencing with that last line lmao, and the answer is no, she's definitely not normal
Yeah, I mean I think that’s why people use the whole “jobless” insult for people who are always in the middle of some dumb discourse or constantly involved in petty fanwars. I couldn’t imagine anything worse than spending all day at work and then coming home to argue about the absolute stupidest BS on that hellsite 😭(nothing but love & appreciation for the jkk defenders & misinfo clearers though 🙌).
Even worse are the people who obsessively follow and aggressively hate on someone/something they supposedly dislike. That’s just peak loser behavior and mental illness to me (eg any of those kpop-flop accounts, all snark subreddits, those wannabe mean girl accounts, most “shooter” accounts, weird accounts like sniper/jjinjins, any and all obsessive antis). There’s definitely a way to dislike something, have critical discourse, or be occasionally snarky in a normal, non toxically-obsessed way. Those people are clearly just looking for an outlet to vent their own miserable lives and insecurities.
actually I’m just going to put this under a cut because it got away from me and I dig into tkkrs again lol (I just enjoy fandom analysis)
I mean, to your point, there are absolutely a lot of tkkrs who openly admit to having really toxic, unhappy marriages — also that one tkkr obsessed with claiming JMs parents hate him. She is the perfect example of someone just projecting their own miserable, unloved life (she's jealous of JM to the point of mental illness 🥴). It would actually be quite pitiful if she wasn’t so vile.
(I also just saw that KTHs/tkkrs were having mass crash outs because the members have been loving and praising JM a lot lately lol, and isn't that just kind of pathetic? They project onto TH and have invented a fictional rivalry between him & JM, so JM being praised and (in their insecure minds, TH being “neglected” or “ignored”) is like an extremely personal attack to them. They also want to project their dislike of JM onto everyone around him to validate their irrational hatred -- when other members actually praise JM’s character instead, it shatters those narratives & exposes their own insecurities and ugliness. Also with tkkrs specifically it shatters their whole “JM evil villain” thing that they desperately need to be true to explain their ship. It’s also a good reminder to them that all of their obsessive online hatred is a meaningless waste of time because it has no real world impact.)
Anyways, I’m not trying to be an ass about any of this either. I use fandom as escapism too sometimes, I can absolutely empathize with everything that comes out of that to a degree. I also hate when people use serious topics (like bad home life situations, unemployment, etc) as petty, online drags, but my empathy entirely dries up when these people cross a certain line.
But to your point, I think the reason why you seem to find more tkkrs who fall into the demographic of “people who are desperately projecting onto an obviously fictional relationship as an escape from their real world unhappiness” is because of how particularly unhinged the tkk narrative is. Their whole ship is contingent on some absolutely batshit insane conspiracies. I can’t imagine any sort of sane adult believing any of that… which is probably why you don’t see any lol.
I’m not going to sit here and pretend like there isn't also a lot of insane, conspiracy theory, over invested jkkrs lol, but I think there’s at least a higher percentage of normal, grounded, non-toxic jkkrs because the basis for believing in jkk as a ship is mostly just believing in jkks own words and actions. It’s believing that they are being genuine and honest in what they say and do, basing our perception of their relationship on actual tangible events instead of only imagined scenarios and personal fantasies (also in understanding realistically what “fanservice” would actually be, not the unhinged tkkr definition of it).
But the tkk ship? There’s not a single narrative that doesn’t hinge entirely on conspiracy theories. Their ship is entirely built on the whole “the company is hiding them” narrative specifically to explain whatever lack of content/moments throughout the years compared specifically to jkk (which is a comparison they made on their own by dragging jkk into their theories). The same narrative also serves as a catch-all to dismiss whatever specific moments that could debunk tkk, like their ITS convo.
There is literally not a single logical interpretation of that conversation that would leave room for tkk to actually be in a romantic relationship. The tkkr explanation for it has to involve it somehow being “scripted” for them to keep believing in their ship. That’s nuts. It also just opens like a thousand more questions. The more you start unraveling their theories the more insane they sound.
(whyyyyy would the company want to hide tkk when they’re the most popular duo, why would you hide a gay relationship with a fake gay relationship, why would BH take it as far as inventing fake friendship rifts, are you telling me BH actually writes full scripts for them to act out, the guys are really that good at acting, tkk are somehow cool with all this, if so then why are tkkrs hating on JM, if tkk are not okay with it then why do they keep renewing their contracts, do tkkrs actually believe tkk are spineless puppets, wouldn’t all the other members have to be in on this too, how do you explain when tkk are included in official content, why would they allow TH to join AYS if it was supposed to be jkk honeymoon, how can they use convos jkk have in company content to debunk jkk — couldn’t we also just claim it was part of the script, why would the company script or not edit out convos that would “debunk” jkk if they wanted everyone to believe they were in a romantic relationship, why is it fanservice when JM so much as mentions JKs name but not when TH hands his phone off to staff to livestream him and a sleepy JK riding in a car set to background music, explain that please because i don’t understand how they determine what is fanservice and what is an authentic moment, also what about all the JK initiated jkk moments, so is he pushing fanservice or...? etc etc etc)
Also taennie?? There’s no explanation for that which is not insane and conspiracy laden. I honestly don’t even know what their dominant explanation for that is because there’s not one that makes even a shred of sense?
And then of course it trickles further into having to involve Jikook in the conspiracy and having explanations for so many of their moments. GCF Tokyo? TH was supposed to be there. The hickey? They were lying. Enlisting together? Tattoos, JK wanted to go with TH. JK only seeing Jihope & Jin on his birthday? He’s lying. JK not knowing THs room in the recent live, JK spending all his time in JMs room in LA, “best trips of my life”? lying, lying lying, obviously the script…
How is any of that normal? Who could actually think like that and be… a sane, well adjusted adult? 😭 We could honestly keep going with this all day lol. There really is a lot to unpack with them, their narratives, and the way they think and whatnot.
I guess the simple explanation would probably be that the more unhinged the narrative for believing a ship is real, the more unhinged the person shipping it has to be. For people to cling onto something that has been so thoroughly debunked, it must be because they have a very personal investment in it, which is often to compensate for something else going on in their lives.
Definitely some leeway for much younger fans who get sucked into it through conspiracy vids and all that, tkkrs who ship it more casually bc they bias tkk or enjoy their dynamic/visuals without thinking abt it too deeply -- but the ones who take it dead ass serious to the point of pushing conspiracies, degrading Jikook’s bond, and hating on JM? Yeah… there’s no sane explanation for any of that, so of course you’re not going to find many well adjusted adults shipping it lol. That's my theory on it anyways, to give you a long serious answer to a question that probably wasn't that serious lol.
Hmm tkkrs are trying their best to pretend that jkkrs are mad at Tae's cameo in jkk show, as if his mere appearance ruins the shipp. Let me explain in a nutshell what jkkrs are really unhappy about) Jkkrs know that after Taehyung's arrival, the wave of hatred towards Jimin will again be simply gigantic. They are already trying to make him a third wheel in HIS show with Jungkook) Jkkrs for the most part do not care about Tae's presence in the show as such. We know that he himself asked to be the third one with them (+ question, can you imagine Jimin doing this during a tkk show and what tkkrs would do to him after that? 🤡) and overall, the three of them have a pretty funny puppy dynamic. That's not the problem.
The problem is with tkkrs. The cult will continue its disgusting cultist activities, spreading fake information, hate narratives and absurd glee. And jkkrs are more than justifiably unhappy with this. We are tired of the hate that is pouring out right now. Rejection in this situation is justified.
But I am more than sure that no cultist will hear my words and will not realize anything...
I'm not reading all of that shit but bruh that's A LOT 🤡🤯
No wonder one breed is crying n throwing up to this day while their head breed is dead silent about buddies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jimin did enlisted finally but took 'their man' with him LMFAO
OH PARK JIMIN YOU ARE THAT BITCH THESE UGLY HAGS WONT STOP CRYING OVER
Oh, I read all that. Every single screenshot. It gave me such satisfaction. To see so much hope, so much delusion, knowing it was crashed so severly in December 2023. They deserve all of it. The only ones still standing in that demented cult are the equivalent of roaches and they are screaming to the void till this day. It was over for them since the beginning, but to see that after 11 years, KM are still the ones who stick together in important events of their life should have ended all the debates. It's done.
i actually wanted to make a post about how taekookers, some armys, jinkookers, yoonminers are making those tweets about as to how jm and jk enlisting through buddy program means they're not dating and how gay couples can't enlist in military without exposing themselves and i actually found this thread and IT IS hillarious specially coming from taekookers out of all people.
taekookers out of all people saying it IS funny because for years like literally years they have been wanting, hoping and waiting for tae and jk to enlist together cause years ago(and Maybe recently too) taehyung said that he's planning to enlist together with jungkook. the problem is not them holding onto that promise but the problem is them suddenly making a 180degree turn to the whole "enlisting together" thing. they all were so sure about tk's enlistmemt that they used to use that thing even in arguments. i remember having arguments with tkkrs here and there and them going "shut up you don't know anything cause tk are going to do ms TOGETHER" and i was like "okay good for them". that was way before group hiatus even. They were hoping for the same, even thought that tk gonna use companion system but as soon as the news of jm and jk going together came they suddenly don't know how to cope so they went with "I'll only belive it when more media talks about it", when more media covered the same thing they were like I'm gonna wait for dispatch (one of the captain of their ship according to tkkrs), when dispatch said the same thing they went with "I'll wait for bighit" and when bighit also confirmed the same thing they went with "there's two different notices and English version of weverse doens't say companionship so I'll wait till they enlist or I'll only belive what tae and jk says" etc etc like jeez so many excuses just to admit one simple and normal thing??? They still haven't stopped mind you cause they're still on their next excuse "my korean friend or my friend who learned korean told me that jm and jk are not together in ms and media won't say it cause they already spread the lie about them going together so they can't back off now". I'm not even lying but that is what they're doing currently.
"gay couple can't do military service together cause it's banned in sk" hmmm then may i know why every single Tkkr was hoping for tk to enlist together? why none of Y'all ever thought about this thing when y'all were holding onto that thing for years? why did none of Y'all said "why is taehyung saying he's gonna enlist together with jk? it means they're not a couple" like why did none of Y'all said this before? why y'all acting woke only now? why y'all caring about sk punishing people serving in military that are gay NOW??? like i honestly want atleast one of them to explain to me WHY ONLY NOW??? what changed?
coming back to jkk being couple and enlisting together, i personally has always thought of these two as very very close friends and they gonna be close friends for me until proven otherwise. BUT to the people who says "jikook enlisting together through buddy program is a proof of them not being a couple" i wanna ask why? why would the sk government think of jkk as a gay couple and punish them? did jm and jk came out as queer? have they ever disclosed their sexuality to anyone? have they told the world that they're gay couple? so why would sk government think of them as gay couple and punish them? let me tell you one thing outside of this shipping bubble to the whole world jm and jk are het and they are only friends. jm and jk has spent half their lives in front of cam for hours a day and IF they're queer then they're doing this job of hiding their sexuality on daily basis so i promise y'all THEY GONNA BE FINE and y'all don't have to worry about them. they knows what they're doing and they are two grown ass men who knows how to behave when there's tens of people around them so they are fine.
another excuse is "jungkook wanted to go to special force with taehyung" like first things first he said"i wanted to do special force service". next is if anyone knows jungkook then you should know very well that this man is known for doing adventures things in BTS. he loves those kind of things so of course his first thought would be going for special force service but then with so many tattoes on his hands on display he might have known he would get restriction in many things. even if he didn't know about it while getting the tattos, idt it bothers him too much that he couldn't do it. now now we know jungkook can't do special force (the one where taehyung is but there's other options open for him ig) so why did taehyung didn't choose to do what jungkook is doing so he can be together with jungkook? why does none of Y'all expect anything from tae's side but always jk has to do? if jk had no options then tae had right? so why didn't he chose enlisting with jungkook?? "why would tae do that when he wants to do special force training" yeah so it's simple he chose the special force service like he wanted to (given that they had to do ms) and nothing like the delulu theories y'all made up in your head. no company is forcing two grown ass men to do anything which will affect their mental health means if being separated would have affected tk's mental health in any way (this is for the people who says "there's no sparkle in jk's eyes he's missing his taehyungie hyung", "bring back these two together", it's also funny how they think jk is unhappy without tae but they don't have any problem admitting that tae looks happy in whatever he's doing currently lol so only jk is suffering according to tkkrs) neither the company nor tk would play with their mental health if they thought being apart from e/o would take a toll on them so Accept it that both jungkook and taehyung are doing whatever they thought is best for them.
yoonminers and taekookers are two sides of the same coin so there's no need to address them separately. about jinkookers then they all think the same that gay couple won't enlist together but at the same time they think jk chose Buddy program cause that would automatically make him serve in frontline where jin is, jm knows about it so he helped jinkook and they're happy jinkook can meet e/o in ms quite contrary if you ask me.
At some point Taehyung MIGHT have talked about the enlistment with jungkook too and we might never know about it (like I'm open for this option too) but what remains as the fact is that even if jungkook couldn't join special force like tae, tae had all the options/choices to get into Buddy program with jungkook and be together till discharge yet it's jm and jk who's in ms now and nothing anyone says can change that fact. So the "tk couldn't be together because of tattoes and they had no option" is a complete lie so get over it.
using Buddy program gives you no privilege cause you're simply gonna serve in one of the most dangerous area that is frontline so it would be helpful for everyone if they they accept that the boys know what they're doing and move along with it. y'all should be happy that atleast they have someone with them to rely on in the difficult times of their life.
anyways, here's the thread i found on twitter if anyone wants to check.
"hybe uses jikook to cover up the real ship which is taekook"
"hybe forces jk to do fanservice with jm to hide taekook"
"hybe promotes and releases jikook content on purpose to make more money"
these are all widely believed theories among taekookers.
and i think..its absolute garbage.
i was talking to an acquaintance the other day and while on the topic of bts and ships (she's an army+tkkr) she started talking abt how im "kinda dumb for being a jikooker", i asked why, she said "jikook is only used to cover up tkk's real relationship" and proceeded to carry on abt why she thinks so, and i sat and listened while suppressing my laugh bc it was so fucking funny how she wasnt able to provide a single concrete piece of evidence but continued to talk shit. knowing it would never end i got up and left. now im writing this here bc i can never think of a good response immediately lol.
"hybe uses jikook to cover up the real ship which is taekook"
suppose, you possess two gvns, one in your pocket and another at your home. but gvns are illegal w/o a license and you dont have one, the police are chasing you , so you run back home. you need to hide your gvn, you see the other gvn lying around and get a mindblowing idea.
"Let's hide this gvn behind that gvn, they'd never know!"
ofc they got to know. they found it immediately and you got your sentence.
now that you're reading this, you might think thats beyond stupid and no one would do that.
tkkrs existing: ....
bc how the fuck are you supposed to hide a gay ship with another gay ship? the backlash will be the same. the homophobia will be the same. the criticism will be the same. esp when the two ships have a common member. i have nothing else to say other than this is the most nonsensical theory ive heard.
"hybe forces jk to do fanservice with jm to hide taekook"
you guys are making out jungkook to be hybe's little puppet who cant say no to anything the company says. like are you talking about the jungkook who doesnt give a shit abt the company's orders? who will rebel when he feels like it? who will do whatever he wants, whenever he wants? the exact copy of jin? and we all know jin doesnt give a flying fuck abt the company rules lol. and neither do the other members. bts make their own rules. i thought we all established that ages ago? and what would hybe even do if they break rules? fire them? lmao, bts=hybe. hybe couldnt do anything even if they wanted to. besides yall are acting like hybe doesnt have anything better to worry about rather than getting fanservice scripts ready for jikook to follow.🙄
not to mention how yall are absolute shit at reading expressions and body language+actions.
jungkook :
*makes finger hearts and saying i love you to jimin and has done it multiple times before.*
*goes on a trip with ONLY jimin to tokyo, pays for all the expenses and makes a whole gcf abt it with "there for you" as the bgm*
*does an almost 2 hour live completely dedicated to jimin and fanboying over him*
*sucking jimins ear in front of thousands of fans to confort him*
*never forgets to reassure jimin, comfort jimin or give reassuring touches like massages and caresses*
*jungkook going all the way up to the mountain to bring snow for jimin bc he knows jimin loves snow"
*jimin travelling halfway across the world just to make it home just for jungkooks birthday* (and so much more)
yall: ITS FANSERVICE JK AND JM WERE FORCED.
like be fr rn🙄 yall only have a problem when its jikook istg.
this speaks for itself.
"hybe promotes and releases jikook content on purpose to make more money."
this is overwhelmingly stupid. okay so obviously a company would want to make more money, i mean its basically the whole purpose. and a company would choose the most efficient way to make money.
if we bring capitalising on ships into the equation, jikook is not the ship that would make them the most money. why? bc most of the shippers in this fandom are tkkrs. but in recent years, jikook has become the 2nd most popular ship in bangtan. but even so, its still the second best option, if hybe really wanted to take advantage of a ship, then they wouldve promoted taekook as a ship more than jikook bc then more fans would buy official content, there would be more engagements and more attention in general.
clearly these mfs decided to prioritize their ship over bangtan. if there were more taekook moments these mfs would've flocked to stores. also "why couldnt hobi get carried?" . bro. jungkook has literally kissed hobi on the neck/cheek and so has hobi. jungkook said "i never thought id fall for a man" while talking abt hobi in CNS. jungkook and hobi engage in lots of skinship. but i dont see yall calling that fanservice?? simply bc yall dont find koobi a threat to your ship and your fantasies lmao.
Anyways.
so why would hybe force out jikook content to make more money when they can make so much more money out of taekook content? the answer is they dont.
in conclusion, all ships have a lil bit of fanservice in them, be it jikook or taekook. but you cannot call an entire bond fanservice in order to fit your delusions. hiding a gay ship with another gay ship is plain stupidity and you know it. yet you will continue to make yourself believe it bc you dont wanna get your perfect little bubble popped. hybe doesnt control bts. bts are not hybe's puppets, they make their own goddamn rules.
i hope this was helpful in breaking down your delusions, have a good day now👋
edit: i cant believe im having to clarify this but this is not a post dismissing taekook's bond😭😭 i love taekook themselves, i just despise the ones who use the above narratives to "prove" their ship. im a jikooker and this is a jikook centric account, ofc im gonna mention mainly jikook moments here😭 please dont come into my asks fighting me on which ship is real PLEASE. yall only see the members for their ships god.
Hating Jimin won't make your favourite ship real. Hating Jimin won't make Jungkook and Taehyung hate him too. Hating Jimin will not end his interactions with Jungkook. Hating Jimin will not end his interactions with Taehyung. Hating Jimin doesn't make you a good fan. Hating Jimin will not make Jikook stop being Jikook. Hating Jimin will not earn you a medal for doing something good.
Hating Jimin will only show how rotten your heart, mind and soul are. Or perhaps it will show that you lack all of those things. Hating Jimin will only show how empty and bitter your life is. Hating Jimin will only make you more unhappy. Hating Jimin only shows how extremely stupid you are. Hating Jimin will only make it so that when karma hits you, it will hit you very hard.
Hating Jimin will only make millions of people love him even more. Hating Jimin will only make millions of people go feral to defend him. Hating Jimin will only make him shine even brighter while you succumb to darkness.
Hating a person you don't really know is stupid. Hating a person like Jimin is also stupid. Hating a person just because you want your toxic fantasy to be real is even more so.
The two people you think you're defending by hating Jimin would hate you. Jungkook and Taehyung would choose Jimin over you countless times.
Your stupidity started when you thought that your opinion, your fantasies, what you want to happen or not, influence the lives and relationships of these men. Your stupidity got even worse when you thought that hating Jimin would achieve anything.
You, who hates Jimin are nothing but a pathetic person. And your worst punishment will always be to see Jimin being happy with the people you want to keep him away from.
Jungkook and Tae would be ASHAMED that you would do and say something against Jimin on their behalf. That will be your karma.
taekookers thinking jungkook is in paris with taehyung meanwhile he's at a concert in seoul supporting his friend. i love seeing them cry lmao
And then the theories that came out of it lmao
Jungkook and his brother do nawtttt look alike lmaoo. And then these other fools. Its like...how is this causing you to be upset? If tk are in a relationship as you claim, why is it so bad that they're hanging out with friends?
Anyway I hope my baby is having fun.
And jimin too! Who's at Sungwoons play. Its so sweet seeing how supportive jikook are of their friends🥰
