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*eats your art*

Sorry i was a bit hungry….

It bit back ...

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Who were the *other* two children that Nancy and Francis are gonna have after they got married. I genuinely have a bad feeling that Nancy coerced Francis to have those two kids with her? Is that correct? Because if it is, fuck you again Nancy! Maybe if you weren’t such a bad mom to your kids or if you didn’t disown Cheska, then you wouldn’t have died alone in that nursing home 🙄

Speaking of, is Nancy as bad of a mother to her two other kids and how about Francis? Is he any good to them?

Also since you mentioned Cheska visited Francis at his deathbed, did they have a final moment together? Did Francis say anything to Cheska as he’s dying? Did he express any regret towards anything? If so what were they?

They're Franz and Francine! (Very original names from Nancy, I know)

On the bright side, during the marriage, Francis actually had more confidence. Since him and Nancy are living together, he doesn't really fear the prospect of her hiding his own children from him when they argue. Franz and Francine are consensual babies, believe it or not. Francis always wanted a big family for some reason, he just never got that with Nacha (except him focusing on his depressed daughter also kind of messed things up for those two).

Also EXACTLY. If Nancy hadn't disowned Cheska, neglected Franz, and enabled Francine's behavior because she acted like her, then she would at least have one of them still attend her funeral.

Nancy was as good of a mother as Francis was good at setting his boundaries in place (very rare). Again, she neglected Franz as the middle child and he ended up losing his mind as well after getting a drug addiction, even though he looked almost like an exact copy of Francis but more 'charming', she was too busy coddling her other child, Francine. Francine was the golden child of the family, and Nancy put all her effort and focus into her because she reminded her of herself. When she went crazy, Francine took her in for a couple of weeks before sending her to a nursing home because she was embarrassing her own daughter and making ungodly noises at three in the morning to grieve Francis apparently.

Francis's relationship with them is also not very good. In his dedication to Francheska, he ends up sidelining his two other kids which he willingly made with Nancy. Of course, before that, Franz and Francine were also his whole world. But when his most treasured daughter almost committed suicide so early in her life, he felt the need to commit to her more. He also just didn't really have as much say to Francine as her mother and Franz at this point have isolated himself from his family because he kept being forgotten.

Their family dynamic was always intentionally modelled after the Narcissistic Family Tree. As seen here:

Nancy is the narcissist; Francis is the enabler (sorta); Francheska is the scapegoat; Francine is the golden child; and Franz is the lost child.

At Francis's deathbed, only Francheska was allowed to be with him. At this point he could hardly talk because of all the coughing and wheezing, so he trusted his will and multiple letters to Francheska which contained his thoughts instead. In the letters, he wished for Francheska to be happy, to live with Florian ( @simminglytimeladies doorman OC who is friends with Francis ), and that he had loved her for the rest of his life, just like he said he would, and now he will continue to love her beyond life and death. He also had letters addressed to Tacha and Nacha, which she asked for Francheska to give to them at the funeral. Then his will contained instructions for them to be at his funeral as well as stuff like all his money and personal belongings go to his children, with a good portion of it going to Francheska.

Francis regretted many things. He deeply regretted that he could not talk to Nacha and Tacha himself in the letters. That for so many years, he was being a coward to them. He regretted taking his mother's life for granted and never going to college so he could start working early. He regretted giving in to Nancy's temptations. And most of all, he regretted not being able to be the best father for all of his kids.

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What do you think mclooy would look like if he was younger? Maybe in his early twenties? ((I swear this isn't just me asking for some art of a young mclooy to drool over))

I think he will look like this:

Less eyebrows, more eyes.

Here is a bonus pic of him in his thirties, when Steven is a young boy:

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Another thing I kinda remember is that Francheska is Francis’s kid but at the same time she isnt cuz she got Izaack’s genes? I’m not sure about this but she isn’t actually Francis’s illegitimate daughter but Izaack’s?

Also I’m assuming Nancy’s a terrible mom to Francheska (correct me if I’m wrong).

Also what’s Francis like as a dad to Francheska? Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that he’s taking responsibility as a dad for her since she’s her second chance at being a father. On the other hand he’s not perfect and he fucked up a lot since it costed him his first family to get to that point. Also isnt he an enabler of some sort? I could be wrong on this part too but let me know.

She is, as I like to call her, a combo baby LMAO.

When her design first came out, it was actually an irreversible mistake the artist made where she accidentally made Cheska's hair black and so I posted that to the TNMN Havoc server and that hilariously became a game of find the inherited genes which meant someone from the server matched up the similarities and likelihood of Francheska being Francis or Izaack's kid.

In the end, we ended up deciding that she had a quarter of both Francis and Izaack's gene and they can only find this out through testing them both for paternity because either of them will come up positive.

Nancy thinks she's actually Izaack's child and is making an effort to hide that despite the fact that Francis is her legitimate father too.

Francheska took a paternity test with Francis once and confirmed she was still related to Francis that way.

And yes, you are right on the money. Nancy is a terrible mom to Francheska. Do you know how terrible of a parent you have to be for your daughter to be already be diagnosed with depression when she turned 14 in the 1960s because she almost took her own life???

Francis is a total enabler to Nancy, however, he draws the line at Francheska. Unfortunately, he only gets to see her like, what, a few times a month? And before she turned 5 and was able to finally visit her dad, he saw her for less. A lot of what Nancy says and does to Francheska remains behind closed doors until they actually started living together and, well, that attempt happened. It was actually Francis who ended up asserting to Nancy that Francheska needed mental help.

Nancy was exceptionally bewildered when that happened. She never thought that *her* Francy would stand up to her so firmly. He was not letting it go and he even threatened to leave with Francheska if she insisted on being stubborn.

Francis did his very best to become a good father to Francheska and he did all he could with the limited visits he could get from her during the doppel era. However, this favoritism of his bled towards his interaction with his future children with Nancy and those said children do end up becoming jealous of Francis's attention towards Francheska in particular.

(EDIT: Waugh, I got some names confused.)

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do you think mclooy is proud of steven? i think he would be cuz i imagine them to have a really good relationship but i wanna know what you think too :3

I do believe that they have a good father and son relationship. Though, Steven may have some inner struggles that he can't share with his Dad because of...well, orders from the Military.

Meanwhile, Mclooy is very much proud of his son's achievements. But he can be too oblivious, much to Steven's annoyance.

Also, I wanna imagine that every time Steve comes home from work, he sees his father watching his favourite epic cowboy series, "Red Dead Redemption 2." They watch together if he has free time.

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DRAW MORE ROMAN AND ANGUS I BEG I LOVE UT ART STYLE I'M DEADDD

Roman? The Squidward guy? Sure!

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Roman, my man. Why you have scar on your face? U former soldier?

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(If the question is unpleasant to you or something like that, then you don’t have to answer) I often began to see headcanons that Teutates is a female. Do you have any opinion on this headcanon?

Oh maybe he is a woman in another universe. 🤭 I don't mind other artists if they look at him as female. If that's their type of fun, who am I to stop them?

Personally, I prefer him to be male, but I believe he is open to wearing a women's dress as long as it's inside his apartment. The reason he is wearing them is simply because it's light and comfy, in contrast to what he always wears from his 'profession'. Mr. Puch sometimes caught him wearing such clothes but he doesn't mind.

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Do you have a favorite rarepair? 🫣

Hmmm rarepairs... I do like to ship Marge Bubbles and Albertsky Peachman. They seem to be compatible.

I'd also like to think the the twins both like Robertsky and they are complimenting him non stop so he can notice them flirting. Too bad he is too oblivious and is busy working.

I know people know this but I do like shipping Nacha and Yog. (because you know, goth love story can be addictive!

And then Ishtar and Francis. Ishtar will have that "Hide Away Charlie Meme" vibe to Frank once she sees him.

Part of me likes to ship Doorwoman/Doorman with Steve and his nightmare counterpart Teutates Taranis.

And then Doorman/Doorwoman with Angus. (And no, I'll never touch his nightmare counterpart with 10ft pole. I admit the first time I saw Abducius Morail, I was horrified. Mutilation is one of my weaknesses 😣)