Here’s Part Two of my look at Sanders Sides Couples.
This will cover the Deceit/Janus ships. These are looking at them in the eyes of the cannon and seeing if they were work or not. These could be taken as my personal opinions, but given I’ll be talking shit about my favorite couples... yeah...
Roceit (Roman/Janus) - Now this is one of my favorite Janus’s ships if I’m honest. But, honesty, they wouldn’t work at all for each other. As we’ve established, Roman has a problem with putting people down to boost his own ego. We saw this at the end of SvS Redux with him making fun of Janus’s name after the others started to trust him. And Janus lashed back, which wasn’t the smartest thing to do, but made sense as I’d have done the same thing.
Then, turning to SvS itself, the court room, Janus had used Roman’s role against him. Janus was trying to gain ground by proving to the others that going to the callback was better, but, as we saw, this ended badly. He felt bad for it, using Roman, but it didn’t change that he did it.
(I often see this is a sign that Janus is ‘Unsympathetic’ but I don’t see that. Janus did admit in SvS Redux that he applauded Roman for being selfless, even if it didn’t serve any purpose in the end. Which, he was right.)
This couple would need to work hard at understanding each other to work. Again Roman would need to work on his need to insult people to feel validation. And Janus needs to understand where the line is before he could do anything.
Loceit (Logan/Janus) - I tend to be impartial to this one, on the one hand, it’s cute, on the other, it’s eye rolling. But, cannon wise, I’d say that Logan and Janus are the only ones that I haven’t seen at each other throats. As we aren’t sure if at the end of SvS redux if Janus had harmed Logan in any way before taking his place, if he was Logan the entire time, or if Logan is upset at Janus.
I’d say no, as Logan seemed more upset at the others that they didn’t seem concern about him after the climax was over. Actually, out of all the time Janus has impersonated Logan, I’ve never seen Logan be angry at Janus. Just either disappointed or slightly annoyed. Casually calling him out, or just rolling his eyes. But, unlike with the others, I’ve only seen once where Janus has been openly mean or hateful to Logan.
The only thing that could be taken as that is when he puts Logan on the bench in SvS, courtroom scene. But, given Logic wasn’t apart of the conversations, as this was about Thomas’s feelings more than anything else, it made sense. But he still did call Logan to the stand and got his opinion and let him speak. And granted he did say this is ‘benched trial for you’ putting him in the far back. As yeah, Logic had no part. Again, Logan asks like he’s mildly annoyed at this, and not angry angry.
Though, out of all the Janus ships, I’d say Loceit is the most stable. They seem to listen to each other, and through out the series each interaction seems to be mild annoyance, to, dare I say it ‘fondness’? Not sure there, this couple confuses me to no end.
You’re guys thoughts?
Anxceit (Virgil/Janus) - Ohohoh boy, this pairing. Toxic as hell! Granted we don’t know much about Virgil and Janus’s past, but what we do see. They would NOT make it as a couple at all. Virgil is constantly putting Janus down, not wanting to talk to him, or even let him be heard to Thomas.
Even going as far as to say in SvS that Janus and ‘his friends’ (ie Remus, and maybe Orange (not confirmed yet).) shouldn’t be allowed to do things like what Janus did in that episode. Aka be heard or allowed control of a situation.
And Janus is openly manipulative, putting down, and sarcastic in a mean way to Virgil. Clearly seen in SvS where he riles up Virgil, Virgil calls him a liar, and he riels him up again. (We know with Roman, Janus felt bad, but we don’t know if he does with Virgil just yet.)
Then again in Can Lying Be Good with them pretty much just undermining each other with some insults and such.
These two CLEARLY have some issues in the past. And until that resolved, I don’t think as a couple they’d work in cannon. Because insulting each other the way they do, it’d be bad.
The only instant I can think of any ‘fondness’ used was when Janus lost his cool at the end of SvS and Virgil was smirking at that. If you an call that ‘fondness’ really I think Virgil was just enjoying Janus’s melt down (granted all were.)
Moceit (Patton/Janus) - This is one I don’t pair alot myself, as I don’t particularly like it. I’ve always seen them as the divorced couple who are having to wrangle their kids together.
That being said, I’d see this i a fence couple. Unlike with Logan and Janus, I can find a few instances were Janus was manipulative and a little rude to Patton. Such as in SvS where he was implying Patton was being immoral and among other things. Or in Can Lying Be Good as he was impersonating Patton to be heard to Thomas. Unlike where he impersonated Logan to be logical, he was impersonating Morality to put Thomas in a morally compromising situation. Granted, Janus had a point in the situation, but still.
But as there are these there are fond moments too. At the end of SvS Redux, where they share a smile, where Patton trusts Janus to take care of Thomas, or where Janus didn’t call Morality/Patton misleading Thomas on purpose. Even stating that he think Patton didn’t do it on purpose.
He’s not trying to make Patton the bad guy, even if in past Eps it seemed like this. We don’t know if he feels bad for these moments or not, we’ll see.
But for now, this couple could work, if even time to understand each other and have equal footing in Thomas’s life. Right now, it’s heading there, but it’s rocky at best. Until Thomas allows them equal footing, they will be at odds with each other, as Morality can be quiet dominating in Thomas’s life.
I’ve already over Dukceit on the other one. But next time I’ll be looking at the Remus ships and dissecting them?
Do you agree with me, disagree? I love to debate it, if you think I missed anything let me know!
