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Concept art for Jack’s weapons in Forever is My Tomorrow on ao3.
Second one canonically crafted by buddy boi Hiccup.
Rating ROTG/GOC characters!
I have so many opinions about these guys so I decided to rate them. Starting from the bottom to the top, these are my opinions on each character of this world.
Superhero Setup
WE DID A NEW THING WE COULDN'T HELP IT 😂
Rating: T
Fandom: Rise of the Guardians
Relationship: Jack Frost/Pitch Black
Characters: Jack Frost, Pitch Black, Jamie Bennett, Twinetender | Jack Frost's Staff
Additional Tags: superhero au, Bad Matchmaking, Enemies to Lovers, Possible side ships in later chapters, superheros and supervillains, Humor, Jamie Bennet is Oblivious, so much sass, some mentions of book characters, Aged up characters
Summary: Jamie Bennet just wants what's best for his small group of friends. What could possibly go wrong with a little matchmaking?
Based on a Very Specific Trope prompt from Tumblr.
PLS ENJOY THESE IDIOTS
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Working title of new WIP: A Dance of Frost and Shadow
Excerpt:
Jack shifted, suppressing a wince as his ceremonial attire creaked against the back of the frozen crystalline throne. The weight of the winter crown felt heavier than it usually did, pressing hard on his temples. He resisted squinting against the beginnings of a migraine that was slowly building, forming a tight band of pressure around his skull. Suppressing a sigh, he gazed out across the throne room, the courtiers bustling about like busy ants, their voices a distant drone. His fingers twitched on the side arm of the throne, itching to pick at the restrictive diamond buttons that marched in a perfect line down his front. Three hundred and some odd years–or was it five hundred? Fuck, it doesn't matter, three hundred years and he still felt like a trussed up tuckey waiting for slaughter.
“Stop it.”
The willow fae stood at attention beside him with casual ease, arms folded behind their back. “You're not the only one that doesn't want to be here, your Frostiness.” Jack shot them a crooked grin from his seated position and leaned on his right arm toward them, cocking an eyebrow.
“Yeah?”
Twinetender's lips thinned, pinching them together to smother their responding smirk. Bark brown eyes glanced down to the side through their stands of silky black hair, meeting Jack's pure blue gaze.
“Resist the call to chaos, my tsísho….and we'll soon be free.”
A moodboard of Mr. Qwerty and Twiner (Wormwood)
For RotG Halloween 2023
Day Two: Wormwood
@rotg-halloween
Frost Phantom
I'm sure we've all noticed the resemblance between Jack Frost & Danny Phantom, especially after the ghost boy obtained ice powers. Well, what if it wasn't a coincidence that Danny was so much like Jack? What if he truly was Jack Frost's reincarnation & the writer for the "Guardians of Childhood" book series got all their inspiration... from their dreams? What if Jack had disappeared because too few children believed or even remembered him, so he just... faded away? Ever since, not a single frostwork has graced the world nor a rousing snowball fight just for the sheer JOY & CHEER & FUN of it.
What if Danny started having dreams of his own, much more vivid than any dream should be? What if one cold winter day, Danny was walking to school & on the way grabbed a tree branch, breaking it from its limb & using it as a walking stick for the fun of it? What it was uncannily shaped like Twinetender & his skin tingled pleasantly the moment he touched it?
What if Jack Fenton was the son of Jamie's little sister, Sophie, & THAT was why he was always so certain of a certain Saint's existence? What if... it was time for the world to believe in fun again? What if it went even further & Danny also had in him the shine of Nightlight? Imagine the possibilities!
He'd be able to learn how to infuse the spirit of fun into ice & snow, control wind, snow, & leaves, tear manipulation, emit starlight, turn into light, banish nightmares, fear, & sadness, manifest & control light, empathy & telepathy. All this packed behind the power of a neutron star.
Course, the big question is how everyone would react when the rest of the Guardians show up to welcome Danny on as the 'new' Guardian. For 1, they'd still be mourning Jack's passing, but knowing that his soul was still around, even with a new identity, should help if only a little.
DP Character Masterlist
1. Jack’s Sister’s name is “Mary Overland”.
The fandom came up with the fake name “Emma” from either the marvel character named “Emma Frost”, or Emma was just a common name back then. (There have been other nicknames, like Jill as in “Jack and Jill” too.)
Originally when asked, William Joyce said her nickname was “Flee”, but later contradicted himself in saying “Flee” was Tooth’s sister’s name. Either way, “Flee” was merely a nickname. It was later revealed her name in the movie would have been “Mary Overland”. This seems to be the most plausible name because William has a knack for naming characters after his family. His son is named "Jackson”, and his daughter’s name is “Mary Katherine”. I think its safe to say Mary Overland is indeed her true name.
2. Tooth’s Human Form
Tooth was drawn as a human child in the books, but in the “Creating an Epic” (behind the scenes content in the ROTG christmas edition) we see a movie version and an older version of human Tooth animated in 2D at the end of the credits. There have been many conceptual forms of Toothiana, but this is the first human design pushed enough to make it featured near the end of special content. I’d like to consider this human design canon.
3. Tooth’s sister: “Vanish”
Vanish has had a lot of controversy behind her character. William Joyce had stated Tooth has a younger sister named “Vanish”, yet not such character has ever been alluded to in the book series or movie at all. “Flee” was a nickname mistakenly given to Jack’s sister, but William later noted “Flee” was supposed to be associated with Tooth’s sister “Vanish”, which would seem more plausible since ‘Flee’ and ‘Vanish’ have the same meaning.
However, her name “Vanish”, and her existence as a whole is questionable. There have been several other images/contexts in concept arts where this image of ‘Vanish’ is merely a book design of Tooth’s mini fairies; this has also claimed to be merely a concept design of Tooth herself, and there’s also been an odd framed picture of this image with a name plate that reads something along the lines of “Tippy” (?) the Tooth Fairy.
Vanish is by far the strangest case in this fact list. Its unknown whether she truly is canon or not even within the books. Its unknown whether this situation will ever be cleared up.
(also I added a picture I drew of Vanish myself with colors just because I think she’s cute regardless of her controversy)
4. Jamie Bennett’s Parents
Jamie’s mother has a straight up model in the concept art book. However, unbeknownst to many, a concept art image of his father and mother(without glasses) can be found in the ROTG Jamie’s Room Previs Reel here. (scroll down for it) I found this intriguing, for the movie typically keeps the parent’s faces out of view. Also, its worth noting that in that picture, we see another character’s head out of frame to the right next to Jamie, whom I assume is Sophie, but her hair isn’t a light blonde. Also, its interesting to note that Jamie’s mother is considered a single working mom in the official movie. So at some point the ROTG writers must have taken Jamie’s father out of the picture, and I’ve always wondered why.
5. Pitch’s Uniform
In the books, Kozmotis Pitchiner is known as a general. I’ve seen many fan designs of what his armor could possibly look like, but there’s been two concept images of William Joyce’s for Pitch, one of early possession where he still wears his uniform, and one of late possession. These two designs are akin to heavy machinery, and the left one (his golden age uniform supposedly still upon him) looks similar to a pirate with that eyepatch. I wish we see a true untainted golden age Kozmotis drawn by William someday.
6. Jack’s Staff: “Twiner”
It was mentioned a few years ago by William that Jack’s staff was actually alive, and went by the name “Twinetender”, however in his most recent post on instagram, he has now toned down the name to simply: “Twiner”. He is said to be a branch broken from an ancient willow that resides upon an indigenous native american burial ground. Twiner is supposedly a spirit that possesses great strength fueled from the deceased warriors he shared the land with when he was still part of the great willow. In the movie, its clear Jack’s staff is just a piece of wood that amplified his power, like a wizard’s wand, useless without its wielder.
7. Beardless North
(or rather hairless North) is just something I threw in there, since many people, (such as myself) have difficulty figuring out the shape of North’s head when I draw him. Knowing his exact ear and chin shape will help, and it could help people whom wish to draw North younger too, as he were so in the books.
8. Mother Nature’s name
This is actually quite common knowledge, but “Seraphina Pitchiner” is a widely used name for Pitch’s daughter in the books. The ROTG wiki page had proclaimed the name came from William Joyce in one of his interviews, but I, and many others like the wiki admins, have done thorough research and have found no such evidence. “Seraphina” was such an adopted name and very space-like, when her true name came out in the books as simple english ‘Emily-Jane’ many fans became upset and confused. I am unsure if William has been confronted about the ‘Seraphina’ controversy, but in all honesty with his name mishaps that have happened with Jack and Tooth’s sisters so often, I would actually not be surprised if there was indeed a time William claimed her name to be ‘Seraphina’ and later changed his mind. I will edit this post if William comments about this situation. I hope we get clarity sometime for this.
9. Unappreciated Settings
In the “Creating an Epic” and in many concept artist portfolio pages, there’s heavy background concept art that involves Sandman’s original ship/island/cloud, and Bunnymund’s original unnatural tunnel system. There’s even been clearer designs of Pitch’s layer, and Jack’s home town. There was a concept artist hired who even did work for the Nightmare Galleon and golden age space ships for the movie’s early concepts. There’s so many more out there, I hope people appreciate this extensive and intensive world building as much as I do.
10. Unreleased
Its been nearly four and a half years since ROTG was released, and in many behind the scenes videos, I spotted tons of blurry unreleased concept arts that look intriguing and fantastic. Surely there’s other story boards and scenes that have been unreleased out there. Take a look here, this is a bad gif, but its a scene where Pitch appears to be talking in the light:
This is from the “Creating an Epic” , but notice how this wasn’t in the movie, and yet its fully rendered and even as lighting. William Joyce had mentioned a long while ago that Dreamworks actually had shorts in the making of ROTG. One was about Pitch, and the other was about an egg that escaped the Easter Massacre. These shorts were discontinued despite William claiming they were 50 to 70% done, and Dreamworks has refused any further attention to be placed upon their ROTG works. (one of these shorts he claims to be about Man in the Moon, but that was done by HIS studio, not Dreamworks. So its questionable if the Pitch short was really done by Dreamworks or not, but there’s no doubt the egg was by Dreamworks since it was directed by the art director and not William) but now I can say there’s no doubt there IS alternative unreleased material for ROTG out there: shorts, deleted scenes, or otherwise. Its been kept from the fandom for years, which is sad to me. Especially since Dreamworks has made it clear they don’t ever want to come back to this. So all this data and art is just lying around rotting in their studio at this point, when there’s plenty of fans out there who would pay money to just get their hands on one unfinished short released digitally. Hell, I would.
This post is brought to you by the same person who did the GOC / ROTG distinction a long time ago. I meant to make this post forever now, and I’m actually procrastinating from school just to do this haha.... but even though the fandom is kinda dead, ROTG still has a place in my heart, and I feel like many people have just left because there’s no new materials. But the Jack Frost book will soon come out within the next year, and I hope this post sparks some interest and spreads information, since I’ve known many that are confused by William Joyce’s claims lately. But thank you all for reading! <3
no.73, “oh dear Twinetender”
i genuinely was struggling for Twinetender design, its so open for interpretation
