#warframe critical

[kookaburra1701]

AND ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY BUTTERS MY BISCUIT ABOUT RECENT WARFRAME UPDATES

WHAT IN THE SERVICE A LA RUSSE IS THIS

As Miss Manners would say, are we eating dinner or performing a hysterectomy???? WHERE DID THE GODDAMN CHOPSTICKS GO

It seems like such a petty thing but the switch to European-style flatware and place settings from the distinctly Asian style of old Warframe is one of the subtle symptoms of the way the fundamental POV of the storytelling is changing. It's so common for Western SciFi to just assume that any far-future human culture will of course be based on European/Western culture. Warframe having people from the Orokin Empire sit in Vajrasana pose or use chopsticks without remark WAS one of the cool ways its aesthetics set it apart from other Western scifi properties.

But now we're going to "of course advanced human culture will reproduce the sensibilities and gender politics of 19th century European bourgeoisie" -type design now I guess. :/

[lucifer-kane]

i will say the big 'that's fucked up' thing in the tau trailer is that the tau natives we've seen have been mostly down in the slums and doing really bad. except. for those in the. fucking. casinos.

edit; i will say now that i've had more time to think on it and seen other perspectives while i don't still think it's Really about natives but i still think it's. weird writing. overall. especially if it's making a lot of people uncomfortable

[kingshai69]

trying so hard not to be too woke about the rework or whatever, but like... with the rise of fascism and making everything look the same, how that affects fashion, the obsession with making art "pretty" (think of the art era fascists obsess over), it kinda feels that deep.

making all female presets look so dainty and baby faced, and the male ones like something from a chad meme, yet still so Perfect and smooth, and almost completely getting rid of any non white face presets... we went from having almost 60 face presets to 10, and the ones we're left with overall just have way too similar facial features. its also pretty much impossible to make an "ugly" character too. not everyone wants to play as a conventionally attractive instagram model :/

and like even if it wasn't intentional, we are still subconsciously affected by the world around us. this rework had to go through idk how many people. at no point did someone in charge pause and be like, hm we're actively taking away options with this. not to mention while the expansion of skin tones is great, I feel like people of color have talked about how important it to actually be able to represent things like facial features and hair (black hair styles did receive much need overhaul tho). but ive already seen a lot of people frustrated over their ethnicity no longer being represented in the options available.

like sure, add in the dainty elf presets for those who want it i guess. but why can't everyone else just be allowed to make a character that looks human lol. it just feels so weird to fully take shit away, and give us less options with even less variation? i don't care if they look "better", i think they look uncanny and lout of place.

and since they pretty much completely remade the character creator, I really don't understand why we couldn't have gotten a more expanded one, instead of two face blends again. like yay I can change my eyebrows, but why am I forced to have a button nose unless I pick one of the chad presets? they're using a morph system for the face blends anyway, that can be extended to let us have control over specific area. at minimum thing like mouth, eyes, nose, jaw and chin shape.

i feel like everyone who loves the rework were either lucky enough to have their old head carry over, or don't mind their drifter looking like an anime girl. everyone i've seen who used the same head as me pre rework has complained, because there is nothing that's even close to that one :/ rip visage 009. like yeah maybe the old face presets were kinda ugly or whatever, but at least they all looked unique. but drifter just looks so out of place now, like why do they look like someones overmodded skyrim character. i scroll through people sharing their new looks, and it's all the same dainty anime girl or a ken doll with different haircuts. boring.

it just feels so half-assed, and they didn't even bother to fix cosmetics. paid hairs have been changed beyond recognition, paid armor has had so many changes, like previously flat chested armor now having bolted on tits, facial accessories aren't fitted to the heads so floating instead. and the main issue with the modular outfits is tints+materials not matching up so you can barely mix and match them, as well as clipping, which haven't improved much. and then they release a new outfit, and put the fucking metal channel on the 3rd slot, as if everyone haven't complained about the few cosmetics that don't have metal set to the 1st slot, because it makes it impossible to match with other parts now! fuuuuck

[chaosroid]

Will never understand how DE one time rightfully made fun of the illiterate and emotionally unintelligent players in the patch notes, then turned around and caved to the cries of those very players by adding the 'Eleanor is a minefield' convo.

Like every time I've heard someone call her that, they either didn't actually pay attention to what she had to say, didn't treat her like a person, and/or went with the most tone-deaf, dismissive dialogue option. At worst, she has maybe one or two moments where she's sensitive and you have to be very careful, but that's it.

And the thing is? In a vacuum, the 'minefield' convo is a nice introspective moment for Eleanor who has consistently been self-conscious about herself. But it is so tied to the meta surrounding the conversation from certain players about how "hard" she was to talk to or how "overemotional" and "hysterical" she is, that I cannot see it as anything other than DE conceding to those complaints.

[gillyeowalters]

At this point it feels like DE is regretting ever doing anything remotely interesting and unique with their game.

This used to be a game I loved for nine years and they have managed to turn it into something I couldn't give a fuck about in barely a year.

First the protoframes, because how dare a game not include boring conventionally attractive people, and now the Warframe designs themselves start looking uninspired and as if they came out of a bootleg gacha game.

[retrowondergirl]

One of the interesting complaints I’ve been seeing so far with the new heirloom is how nobody talks about or even sees the male Warframe heirlooms (Frost with a bit of stomach showing, shirtless Vauban and shirtless Rhino) as something that isn’t horny or sexy. As if it’s just normal to see.

Yet when it comes to women then there’s a problem and it’s goonerbait.

My only complaint is that Mesa’s heirloom just literally needs a jacket similar to Vauban or even a poncho. Though I think poncho would look sexy with the demon aesthetic. It just feels too empty imo. I love the tassels for her pants, but I would love a jacket with tassels would look a lot more sexier imo.

Also some complaints I’ve seen say how we need more horny male Warframe skins when there is a lot of them. They just get ignored.

[vulpine99]

I get that building hype is important (especially for a free to play game like warframe) for marketing and engagement to an extent

But at this point im starting to feel like DE over hyping updates is become a real genuine problem

Like i know it isnt fully DE's fault and that fandoms and especially gamers in general have a tendency to over hype everything (just look at something like lotus eaters an update DE was very honest about but some people still manages to set there expectations too high for)

But DE is definitely at fault for JSC being over hyped and this isnt the first time they've done it, constantly building more and more hype usually only trying to remotely set expectations at the very last second (as in the literal update day pre-release stream)

And i just wish they'd maybe take there foot off the gas a little and focus a bit more on setting proper expectations instead of just constantly going on about how "INCREDIBLE and AMAZING the new content is!" And about how "This might be the greatest update/quest we've ever made!!!" All the time

The one thing ive always appreciated most about DE is how open and honest they are compared to other game studios but this isnt starting to feel very honest

[a-red-light-pledge]

All in all I think that it’s just time that the writers were banned from using tumblr and AO3.

There are better stories and way more interesting plot points than Stalker slice of life.

The “story” has devolved into pandering brainrot and the game will lose long time players.

Edit: and what I mean by this is just low effort meme bullshit meant to generate fanfics and art for free advertising and catering toward the toxic positivity train.

This kills games. Please stop.