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this took so long and I wish I could have made it a bigger chapter to make up for that but it was just becoming a cycle of wanting to have more written before I post, not posting it because of that, and it taking even longer to get done because of that.
Awkward Slade getting asked “hey where’s your sidekick?” When he shows up without Renegade. Hilarious Dick getting asked that by unobservant clients. Dick: “..he outgrew his use.” (Internally; what the fuck am I supposed to say to that?)
Slade getting slightly miffed that apparently he can't go anywhere without people expecting his apprentice to come along. he has a life you know! lmao.
oh boy. someone mistaking Dick as still the original Deathstroke and asking where Renegade is. that's hilarious but also would throw Dick off so bad.
you're right that his internal monologue would be 'what the fuck am I supposed to say here?' because like. if this person still thinks he's the OG Deathstroke then he'd prefer it that way. that's a net positive.
Him debating saying that Renegade is dead. figuring that might be a bit much. 'outgrew his use' isn't technically incorrect. he has, in fact, outgrown Renegade and now become Deathstroke.
all round a weird moment for him as he talks about himself int he third person lmao.
A popular fandom headcanon is that if someone calls Dick, Tim, or Jason ‘Robin’ in a time of stress they would listen. There was actually a scene with that in a Nightwing annual.
Would this work with WMLP Dick? I imagine he’d be super pissed if someone tried it regardless if it worked or not.
Man the idea of Bruce yelling “ Robin Stand Down!” At Dick
ooooooooh I had some delicious thoughts about this. And most of them are spoilery.
For the most part the only thing that'd do is make Dick angrier because jesus fucking christ are you joking? you think you can start calling me that and I'll keel over like a fucking dog? I'm not a child. how dare you come in here and talk about Robin, as if you didn't leave him for dead.
But.
that being said.
Something happening where the league is working with Deathstroke. And they get to the end of the mission and everything had been tense and difficult but otherwise fine. And some guy makes a comment. Someone who's got some power or whatever and saw Renegade and Deatshtroke together. and they've lost the battle so as a last minute gesture they're like "of course Deathstroke's dog can't do the job himself, has to run to the next authority to order him around like the little bitch he is. After all the work he put into you you're just his little slut-"
And Dick has shot him in the jaw before he can even really finish the sentence. and he's tearing through people again to get to this man, who's still alive but has half his face blow off, so that he can beat the shit out of him, and the leaguers are too far away, busy handling something else as they begin arrests. It's not till he's standing over the man, gun leveled on him, that Bruce finally gets close enough and yells "Robin no!"
And Dick pauses.
and everything goes still for a moment as quiet cold rage seeps into the air.
and he looks up at Batman. Batman, who he has ignored this whole time. Batman, who he never attempts to be in the same room as. Batman, who he has refused to deign with his gaze-
"Now you have my attention," and his voice is cold as it seeps out of a voice altering device. he cocks his head, "and yet still no authority."
and fires.
he puts his gun away, not bothering to come any step closer to Bruce, who is horrified. Because not only has Dick killed a man in front of him, but he's done so with the knowledge that Bruce knows it's him and he still does not care.
"when did you figure it out?"
"there were too many coincidences." which Bruce had always said he could never accept too many coincidences. one can be overlooked and two can be humorous, but any more was worth suspicion. "Slade went out of his way to kill specifically you, and then took on an apprentice afterwards who could have been your age. You seem acquainted with Artemis, who would otherwise never dare speak to Deathstroke and those affiliated with him. You took in the speedster who attacked Central city..." and other such things perhaps Bruce has learned in this hypothetical scenario.
"and you waited till now..." Dick says, "when you thought it would make me do as I was told."
"Robin-"
"say it again." and his hand is back on his gun, "one more time, see what I do about it. I have very little patience left for you."
I imagine when Dick is revealed in WMLP, Bruce and Tim are going to make a plan for in case Tim dies and comes back evil/or and killing people. Because it is 2 out of 3 with robins so far.
LMAO YES
Tim would be the one who comes up with it to. he like approaches Bruce all carefully like 'heyyy, so I've noticed a... trend, with my predecessors and uhhhh. I just wanted to sorta hash out a plan in case... y'know'
Bruce is appalled at the idea but Tim just starts rattling off possible scenarios and such and it's enough of a puzzle for Bruce's brain to snag on it and eventually gets dragged in.
Did WMLP Slade or Dick ever take jobs from Lex Luthor in person? Have they been in his office in Metropolis?
oh yeah for sure.
Lex is someone Slade would mostly deal with in person, because he's such a frequent customer he is worthy of that level of respect. Plus, sometimes Lex has certain appearances to keep up because he's so high profile, so if money is just going to faceless account it gets suspicious. But if you physically have some guy coming in doing business with him it's easier to hand wave. "Oh that's Mr. Wilson, Luthor pays him for security stuff" or whatever, y'know? so yeah they've been in his office.
I’m not sure if this question is crack or not. What would WMLP Dick do if Batman plus a Justice League team up beat up Slade and threw him in the phantom zone? Superman let Bruce cause they were both pissed about Slade killing Dick.
oh my godddddddd. because that's like. he's not getting Slade out of there. he's just not. the only way he has a chance to do that would be to get help from wither the league itself or... i don't even know. the future heroes have access I think. i don't even know. but Dick's not managing that.
(okay this got long so uhhhhh)
I mean I guess he's becoming Deathstroke! he probably would like to save Slade, and that's a goal int he back of his head, but he has no idea how to do that. so in the meantime he'll take up the mantle and get to work.
okay but if he did, I imagine Clark and Bruce like 'we're not letting him become as bad as Slade was' and immediately trying to arrest him. if they're at the point of throwing Slade in the phantom zone then they're probably at the point where they're willing to just be like 'no. we've decided Deathstroke doesn't get to be a thing anymore. we've had enough.'
which makes it rather difficult for Dick to do his job.
and like. Slade isn't getting out himself any time soon. So Dick probably is like 'y'know what? imma just... chill for a bit' as he starts getting information and stuff to hopefully break out M'Gaan, Conner and Kaldur. he's just not doing many contracts y'know.
after several close calls escaping Bruce and Clark I think he starts doing his work in disguise. or at least just in all black gear so he can't really be connected to Deathstroke. and that'll only be a solution for so long, because now he has a batman mercilessly trying to track him down.
I think they pick up on the fact that this new deathstroke isn't really doing typical contracts. sure he's killing but it's not a kill mission. he's breaking into things and stealing things and hacking things. and they can't find a buyer, they can't track anything down about who he's working for. so perhaps this of his own accord?
I think Clark starts getting hopeful that maybe there's more to this story, and perhaps there's a chance for rehabilitation. Bruce is too clouded by righteous fury, though.
Dick can't evade them forever, eventually he'll get caught, he can feel them at his heels. he hasn't been home in months, refusing to accidentally lead them to Rose, he's running out of safe houses and bases, but it's okay. he just needs to last long enough to save his friends old team mates.
and even if they catch him before that, if he has the dominoes set up he can hand it over to them and let them knock them over. at least his goal will be fulfilled and everyone will be free and he can... well. it doesn't matter after that. The only other priority is Rose, and he trusts Wintergreen to care for her.
I think they finally catch him when he breaks out M'Gaan. they barely manage to get out without Bee taking them down, Dick had to sedate M'Gaan to stop her from fighting him, but it's okay, he's in his getaway vehicle (a very small plane with enough fuel to get to a safer place where he has a vehicle kitted out to escape under the radar) when suddenly he's being tailed and it's not from Bee's military.
he's got it handled, he lasts surprisingly long, until he's close enough to the ground that the league decides he'll survive a full blown crash and fires direct on the ship. he's still awake when he lands, makes sure M'Gaan is okay, drags her away from the fire, and then he's surrounded by leaguers. and he just... can't. he just doesn't want to deal with this bullshit. he let's M'Gaan go, she can be caught, she'll be okay. they'll work on the brainwashing. he'd prefer to help her himself, without putting her in the stress that is being saved by the league, but it's fine. he'll take what he can get.
so yeah, he fights. he survives longer than he expected to. Superman can't just go flying out to Qurac and start shooting down planes, it'd cause an international incident. but Batman does whatever the fuck he wants. he's got Canary and Green Arrow and Green Lantern, who is taking care of the plane wreckage and making sure it doesn't explode or draw attention from Bee's intelligience.
but yeah. they win that fight. Dick doesn't stop fighting, face pressed into the sand, until the fire gets too close to M'Gaan and he starts screaming at them to get her away from it. she's not in danger of catching but she's way too close for a Martian.
they're telling him to focus on himself not someone else, he's in much more trouble then her, until eventually he just snaps, "It's M'Gaan you fucking idiots! get her away from the fire!"
Lantern gets on that immediately, pulling her away with his ring and getting her into their ship so he can check her vitals. and now Bruce is trying to interrogate him about This Whole Situation, as Canary is cuffing him, because how the fuck does he know M'Gaan? how did he know where she was?
Eventually Dick just snaps, "don't you think there's a better time for questions Bruce? fucking hell. you did it, you got me, calm the fuck down and get out of my face."
Bruce does not want to calm the fuck down and get out of his face, but Oliver basically pulls him back like 'he's right, calm down, we'll question him on the watch tower, we gotta get out of here before Bee shows up.' which is much too logical for Bruce to ignore it.
And then they knock Dick out so he doesn't try anything, drag him into the ship, and off they go to the watchtower. the fun thing is I don't think they even bother taking his mask off. they'll leave that for later. honestly it might not even occur to them because his identity doesn't really matter till they're putting him in the system. if they even do that. maybe they can just shove him in the phantom zone with his master. (Clark makes it clear he doesn't like that idea).
and then interrogations begin. Dick refuses to go along with any questioning until they tell him that M'Gaan is okay. they do tell him she's fine, he managed to keep her away from the fire pretty well and she's on track to finish bed rest at the end of the day. but after that there'll be a lot of work. she needs all kinds of therapy. Dick is relieved. they ask why he cared to save M'Gaan.
I think they have Canary interrogate him while Bruce watches behind the mirror, fuming, because everyone decided he was too emotionally compromised by the whole thing.
Canary: it's interesting you ask about M'Gaan. you seemed very invested in her well being. and getting her out of Bee's clutches couldn't have been easy. how do you know her?
Dick: I would've thought that was obvious by now.
Canary: explain it like it's not obvious.
Dick, wondering if there's any way he gets out of this without the truth coming to light. also wondering if he can put off telling the truth as long as possible because man this sucks: *sigh* can we just cut to the part where you tell me where the hell you're locking me up?
Canary: what makes you think we're putting you in prison?
Dick, mask covering face but still very evidently giving her a look of 'are you fucking serious?': do you want that list in alphabetical or chronological order?
Canary: funny. the first Deathstroke never used to be this entertaining to talk to.
Dick: that's cause of the permanent stick shoved up his ass.
Canary: so there's no love lost between you and your former mentor?
Dick, has been away from Slade long enough he's started to gain some semblance of independence and begun detaching his emotions from Slade: sure.
Canary: and how old were you when he took you as an apprentice?
Dick: no younger than most of your kid heroes. how are they doing by the way? still losing them?
Canary, not having any of that: how interesting that a question like that makes you lash out.
Dick, remembering she's a lawyer and also did their therapy, internally: shit
Canary: so you were young. and what exactly was the nature of your relationship? how did you meet?
Dick: tindr.
Canary: please stop deflecting. I'm trying to help you.
Dick: that's kind of hard to believe with my hands in cuffs and an inhibitor collar around my neck.
Canary: I think you can understand the precautions we need to take. now please, answer the questions.
Dick, knowing all of this is gonna come out eventually but hating it and hoping to just gloss over things: *sigh* I was fourteen.
Canary: I see. and where did he take you in from?
Dick, knowing the truth is going to be so specific but not really thinking of many other options: he killed me then brought me back with the same serum that gave him his enhancements
Canary, feeling a strange sense of foreboding and a tug in her memories, but not wanting to devolve the conversation: and why did he choose you?
Dick: ...
Canary, waiting patiently: ...
Dick: ...
Canary: ...
Dick: so like do you want to skip to the part where I tell you who I am, or...?
Canary: if you'd like. is it pertinent to my questions?
Dick: uh yeah you could say that.
Canary, beginning to have hypotheses she doesn't like: elaborate
Dick: uhhhhh...
Canary, never seen a Deathstroke, Slade or otherwise, fumbling this much: why are you anxious?
Dick, does not know why he's this anxious, because he totally doesn't care about any of this whatsoever, definitely, for sure: uh well- I wasn't expecting to have to do this shit when I started my mission to save M'Gaan
Canary, knows he's lying: I assumed you didn't wish for us to know your identity for typical reasons. but there's more to this. you simply don't want us to know... because?
Dick, currently with an inner monologue that sounds a lot like 'fuck fuck fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck': listen Dinah, I really don't need a therapy session right now.
Canary: I beg to disagree
Dick, really sick of this, is just gonna rip off the bandage: Dick Grayson
Canary, blue screening: wat
Sounds behind the mirror: *bang crash*
Dick: who's listening to us?
Canary: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain Dick Grayson is dead
Dick: only for like. a few weeks at most. actually Slade never told me back then, time kinda blurred
Canary, storming around the table to take off the mask: I swear to god if this is a game-
Dick, now not wearing a mask, hair very much a mess and getting in his eyes: hi?
Canary, mask in hand, gaping, very conflicted feelings right now, no idea what to do, ready to call in reinforcements: ... Bruce?!
sounds behind mirror: *more crashing and door opening*
Bruce: *appears in doorway*
Canary: *gestures vaguely at Dick, who could really use a hand getting a piece of hair out of his eye*
Dick: oh joy we're doing this now
Bruce: Dick? you're alive? you-
Dick: yes we've established that
Canary: I'm gonna leave you with Bruce-
Dick, does not want to talk to Batman: I would prefer if you did literally anything else
Bruce, scorned by a second son who's come back from death, does not know how to emotion, continues standing int he doorway because he doesn't have any space left in his brain computer for anything else right now, voice does not sound the way his brain does because it comes out all gruff and mean: you don't want to talk to me?
Canary, sensing a Problem oncoming: okay maybe I'll stay actually
Dick: what if I just go to prison and we skip all of this actually?
oh this got long. whoops. man now I have this whole thing playing in my brain lmao.
the idea of the league catching him without knowledge of anything else and just being like 'what the fuck' for a while until Clark is like 'time to rehabilitate him'. okay but Dick just moping around trying to avoid being rehabilitated and work on a way to escape so he can get back to Rose and saving his friends, but the league keep trying to make him become a better person. they're basically like 'team up with us and we'll save COnner and Kaldur! and maybe track down Artemis! you'll be like a double agent or something!' and he's like 'I have no interest in being the justice league's pet mercenary'
basically he becomes that guy in Buffy, the vampire with the blond hair. Spike? I think. he's just vibing in the background, against his wishes.
Vandal wanted Kaldur to replace his father 🍿 He’d do a way better job if they could turn him. Aquaman would not be able to fight him. Did Savage want him on the Light’s council? Is there anyone else in the WMLP cast he’d want to have on the Light’s council?
Oh for sure he'd do a better job. And boy oh boy the thought of him coming face to face with Aquaman. Hhhhh.
I think when they took down the team Savage had a good idea that they would be turned into useful assets. Being that Savage is immortal, he fully would expect to watch them grow and change and mature, with the intention of having at least one of them join the light eventually. The current members aren't going to live forever (aside from Ra's who might live a very long time, but Ra's leaves the light somewhere in the ten years). Savage would fully have it in mind that if they played their cards right the team would grow to be his next generation of underlings.
Looking at them now, he fully expected that he will be able to manipulate things so that m'gaan gets some independence from Bee so he can manipulate her into his good graces. He would want her to grow into her own role in the light, especially seeing as she'll have a long lifespan as a Martian.
He knows Conner won't be any more than a piece of muscle. That's what he was made for and that's what Luthor has kept him as. Savage expects to keep him a while, as he's a clone of Superman, so he'll probably have a decent life span. He may even not age, but simply die of old age from inner systems, and his appearance doesn't change. Which would be useful.
He fully expects to be able to get Dick to join. He's giving him time to get accustomed to his role as Deathstroke and settle in. Savage expects to offer him some work and then have Dick on the light within a year.
Artemis and Wally are nonstarters. He doesn't even know Wally is alive just yet, and Artemis slipped the cage years ago and is no actively fighting against him, although she is attempted to keep her dislike under the radar Savage knows.
Kaldur is an asset that has been ruined, and Savage is displeased about it. But he also is very prideful and thinks he can make anything of any situation, so he still thinks that if Manta is killed/some other form of indisposement, he would able to get a hold of kaldur and make something of him.