Incredibles 3 plot ideas?!
Meant to post this way earlier in the day. Sorry! I'll continue to re-edit this post for grammar/spelling errors, if I catch myself accidently repeating myself, or try to summarize my thoughts better. Anyway....
Literally nobody asked me to do this, but I've had this in my drafts for a while. It's about a possible better plotline for Incredibles 3. I imagine it being set 15ā20 yrs later where Violet is in her mid-20s, perhaps working as a tech specialist or agent for a reformed NSA or āSuper Regulation Bureauā. Sheās learned to merge her stealth powers with tech (invisibility drones, holographic fields, etc.). Dash, in his early 20s, maybe in the military or testing new hero technology. He's still reckless but now determined to earn responsibility. Jack-Jack is around 9 or 10, with still-developing polymorphic powers. He's still new to developing his skills. But Bob and Helen are aging Supers. Their powers still work but take a toll. For example, Bobās joints ache after heavy lifting, and Helen tires more quickly when over-stretching. Their challenge isnāt just villains anymore, itās time. Supers are legal again, but society is starting to question them as surveillance, politics, and secret agencies are re-emerging.
This is where a cut super villain finally reemerges in the final film. Xerek. If they finally reused but updated Xerek's 3D model, I'd think they'd still make him look older, but ageless, and with an augmented figure. Maybe part man, part advanced tech, with subtle cybernetic or biogenic enhancements????? I'd want his motive not as simple as it was in the comics, not simple domination. Rather, control through continuity. He sees humanity as too volatile and heroes as outdated āmythological relics.ā It's finally revealed Xerek was the shadow backer behind Syndrome, supplying him tech, data (the NSA hero files), and funding the Omnidroid project as a test for his grander plan. Now, he uses the Omnidroid blueprints, stolen hero DNA, and NSA records to build an army of synthetic āperfected supersā. Like a controlled evolution of heroism.
In the movie, they will discover Syndromeās āself-made hero planā was never his own but Xerek manipulating him as a disposable pawn by sending the NSA data and old weapon specs to test how heroes fight. āSyndrome thought he was building his legacy. He was just writing mine.ā could be a line from Xerek (wow so fire unc š š„ š„ ). Bob and Helen now face their limits. Not just physically, but socially in the new world of powered individuals who don't need their old methods. Their story becomes about passing the torch (to Violet, Dash, Jack-Jack) and realizing legacy isnāt about strength, but ideals. Using data from the NSA files and the Omnidroid project, Xerek creates hybrid AI-Supers. Each modeled on fallen heroes like Meta Man, Gazerbeam, and Gamma Jack, but with their weaknesses ācorrected.ā The Parrs and their allies must face dark versions of their own past. Perhaps Xerek operates as the head of a secret government or corporate division thatās been studying Supers for decadesā¦almost like an evolution of the NSAās āSuper Relocation Program"? He uses bureaucracy as his weapon when heroes are no longer outlawed but legally controlled through contracts and implants.
The climax could take place in a massive facility built from Syndromeās old island base, now upgraded with Xerekās networked AI supers OR a completely different high tech environment base of Xerek's. The Parrs reunite, though when aged and weakened, Bob and Helen prove that experience beats raw power. Violet leads a younger generation of heroes, merging old ideals with new tech. Jack-Jack's powers become the unpredictable factor that defy Xerekās calculations, symbolizing chaos that canāt be controlled. Xerek reveals heās not fully human but possibly kept alive through quantum entanglement, explaining his agelessness and immunity to time. The core message of the third movie could be about aging and legacy. How do heroes cope when time erodes their strength but not their spirit? Control vs. Chaos, as Xerek represents the cold logic of control and perfect order through manipulation. The Parrs represent the messy, human side of heroism. And of course, final character arcs for all of them through evolution. They are no longer just a family that fights together but a dynasty shaping what heroism means to the next generation. The aesthetic art design for the last film could be sleek 3D redesigns with updated tech suits (a new āEdna lineā of modular hero gear). A darker but emotionally rich tone yet nostalgic and mature. If Pixar is based and plays their cards right, it could be a perfect trilogy. Because the themes for the first two movies were Incredibles (2004): family learns to be heroes, Incredibles 2 (2018): society learns to accept heroes again. Finally, the last of the trilogy, Incredibles 3 (~2027?): heroes learn to accept mortality and define what it means to leave something behind. Get me in the damn booth Pixar š š
Because Dash once thought his entire identity was defined by powers/speed, now he has to face the reality that he canāt outrun everything. He's currently in his prime years being in his early 20s but already realizing heās mortal and those 20s will fly by fast. His metabolism, reflexes, and stamina arenāt infinite forever. Heās been chasing validation by trying to live up to his dad's legend rather than finding his own path, his own identity. I think that Xerek would manipulate Dash into a chase sequence where speed works against him, corridors that amplify kinetic energy, causing friction burns, or time distortion fields that slow him internally while he feels heās moving fast. Dash learns that the real power isnāt āfaster,ā itās āsmarter". Near the end of the movie, Dash hands off a data drive or device (maybe the stored consciousness of Everseer) to Violet or Jack-Jack, symbolizing the passing of the torch, that heroism is teamwork, not solo sprinting. He could briefly overclock his power by running so fast he phases through matter or even temporarily enters Xerekās quantum network to destroy it from within. But it costs him physically. Maybe he ends up with permanent damage to his nervous system or chooses to slow down forever after saving everyone? I'm sure Bob would say something reassuring to him and encourage his own personhood (don't wanna fall into the same trap when Syndrome was obsessed with him and didn't have his own identity either). This will cement his growth from an impulsive, irresponsible child to thoughtful young man who values timing, responsibility, family, and his own personhood, not just speed.
Now I have no idea if Pixar would still go ahead with Xerek taking Everseerās brain or not for modern kid audiences. We know a lot of children's media seems to baby kids and don't respect their intelligence enough to even SLIGHTLY deal with something even a tad bit dark. But if Pixar still has the balls, they could make Xerekās immortality and predictive accuracy stem from Everseerās brain stored in a containment orb or suspended neural tank. Like an "Oracle Engine.ā He uses Everseerās clairvoyant neural data to forecast every possible outcome, making him appear invincible (hence why he ānever losesā). Also, they should bring Mirage back cuz wtf. Where is she? I know her voice actor died but you can find another who sounds similar. Anyway, Violet or Mirage discovers that Everseerās consciousness is still faintly active, trapped within Xerekās network, and subtly trying to subvert him. Violet (as a new-age tech-savvy hero) might make contact and help Everseer reclaim agency which turns Xerek's own foresight against him in the finale. Destroying his network means destroying whatās left of Everseer. The Parrs must choose between freeing the world and saving one of their ownā¦a choice that mirrors the theme of sacrifice vs legacy. Pixar could translate it into something mythic and/or unsettling like every victory over Xerek costs something dear to public trust, loved ones, or stability. He operates like a chess master who always has a contingency plan, always a step ahead. Even in defeat, his ideas or systems survive. Maybe his AI fragments scatter across the world, subtly controlling new bureaucratic systems. The ending could be that the Parrs āwin", but the world changes in ways that make them question what they really protected.
I want Mirage to come back as a double agent and be the key to emotional continuity. We as the audience remember her, but her motives were always ambiguous. Mirage resurfaces as a liaison between Xerekās shadow government and the remaining Supers. Outwardly loyal to him, but secretly acting as a mole, feeding info to Violet or Frozone. She plays both sides, and nobody is sure whose side sheās really on until the end. Haunted by Syndromeās death and her complicity, Mirage tries to atone by warning the Parrs. She might be the one who exposes the truth that Syndrome was working for Xerek all along. Mirage could die protecting them, echoing her earlier guilt. Her final words might reveal that she always believed in heroism, it's just that she just lost faith in people. It gives emotional closure to her story and thematic weight to Violet and Dash's generation. The Parrs infiltrate Xerekās Citadel, Dash races through collapsing corridors, outrunning quantum distortions, and reaches the Oracle Core, which contains Everseerās brain. Violet connects to the neural field using invisibility and shield powers to bypass security and talk to Everseerās mind to free it.
Mirage confronts Xerek directly, buying the rest of the Parr's time, ultimately turning on him, but at fatal cost. Xerek outsmarts them all though as he activates fail safes that ensure even his death destabilizes hero society. Bob and Helen choose to sacrifice their powers (maybe siphoned by the Core) to stabilize reality, passing the torch to their children. Dash uses his last burst of speed to deliver the kill command, a physical manifestation of āletting go". Heroes are free but scattered. Xerekās ideology lingers in new systems but Violet, Dash, and Jack-Jack vow to rebuild, not as replacements, but as the next evolution.
It's an estimated 15-20 years after Incredibles 2. Supers are legal again, working under global registration. Public opinion has cooled; heroes are seen as aging symbols of a bygone era. Old news reels show Bob and Helen on state-sanctioned missions. Theyāre slower, more cautious. Dash works as a government field agent and Violet, a tech researcher at the new NSA Hero Division. Meanwhile Jack-Jack is 10, hyper-gifted, studying under Edna. During a mission, Violet uncovers old, encrypted footage from Syndromeās island, showing data transfers labeled āProject XEREX". It implies someone higher funded Syndrome. In the middle of the movie, a sleek broadcast interrupts global networks. Xerek, thought long dead, exposes alleged NSA corruption, releasing files showing heroes causing collateral damage. His voice is calm, persuasive, āYou were saved by Supers, but at what cost?ā. Public opinion turns fast. Helen recognizes the cadence in Xerekās voice. Flashbacks show her youth, before Bob, when she worked with a charismatic strategist named Xerek, a meta-intellectual who believed heroes should rule via order, not freedom. They dated briefly until she left him after discovering his manipulative streak. She tells Violet and Dash theyāre facing a strategist who knows how Supers think, but she doesnāt tell Bob how she knowsā¦yet. Sheās terrified Bob will misread it as betrayal because she remembers how hurt they both were over āsecretsā in Incredibles 1. Helen convinces herself sheās sparing him distraction but itās denial. Xerek releases footages, both real and fake, of Supers committing crimes, seeded from NSA archives (Syndromeās data). He frames his campaign as a ātruth movement.ā Heroes lose funding, trust, and legal protection.
Just more ideas on how Xerek could manipulate and divide society but also the Parrs! Through anonymous messages, Xerek tempts Dash with a deal: join his āSuper Integrity Program". Dash is frustrated with government red-tape, so he nearly accepts until Violet intervenes. Xerek uses Dashās recklessness to paint him as a public menace in staged footage. Mirage reappears, claiming sheās working against Xerek but sheās conflicted. She reveals he is ageless because he grafted his mind with Everseerās preserved brain, turning Everseerās clairvoyant pathways into predictive AI. Mirage warns Helen that he knows every move before they make it. During a raid on an underground server, Bob intercepts a recording which features young Helen and Xerek together. Itās innocent in tone, but still, the betrayal stings. An example for an argument between him and Helen could be like this. Bob frustrated and displeased on the revelation, āYou told me everything about the past EXCEPT him!ā. Helen retorts, āBecause I thought he was gone! Because I wanted to believe he couldnāt still hurt us". Their marriage fractures right when the world needs them united, mirroring Incredibles 1 but with reversed roles. He doesnāt want to kill the Parrs; he wants to erase faith in heroism. He launches Project Legacy, a network of synthetic āNeo-Supersā built from cloned powers (Meta Manās strength, Gazerbeamās optics, etc.). Each clone is āperfect,ā obedient, government-approved heroes without flaws. As quoted by Xerek, āHuman heroes fail because they feel but mine will not". Upon collapse and revelation, he leaks intel that heās hiding on Syndromeās old island. Itās bait.
The Parrs and Frozone infiltrate, discovering a vast data core powered by Everseerās living brain. Xerek appears via projection, the real him is integrated into the network. As mentioned before but with a slightly different approach, the Core destabilizes from the help of Dash, Jack-Jack, and Vi. Helen confesses the truth to Bob that she loved Xerek once but left because he tried to make her choose order, dominance, and submission over compassion. He wanted her to be perfect, but Bob let her be human. This rekindles their bond and mirrors the first filmās trust theme but this time she owns the hypocrisy. Like I said before, Mirage betrays Xerek, trying to sever his connection to Everseerās brain. Sheās mortally wounded but transfers critical data to Violet, enabling her to free Everseerās consciousness. Later, she dies. Freed, Everseer turns his clairvoyance inward, collapsing the network and erasing Xerekās predictive field but ensuring his āideasā leak into the worldās systems. He dies knowing his works not truly stopped or finished. The Parrs emerge, reunited but shaken. Supers regain public sympathy when Mirageās final transmission exposes Xerekās manipulations. His body might be gone but his voice echoes faintly in global comm networks. Order is inevitable. He simply taught you how to want it.
By the end of the film, Bob and Helen retire officially, training new heroes under Violetās guidance. Dash mentors younger recruits from a desk position, learning satisfaction in strategy. Jack-Jack, brimming with potential, sketches designs for new suits, hinting at Ednaās successor. The Parr's home is quieter now. The television flickers, static resolves into Xerekās symbol for an instant (then cut to black?). The core theme is trust and transparency, aging and legacy, control vs chaos, and family evolution. Because of Helenās secrecy, it hurts Bobās faith, but both must face their hypocrisy. The Parr's learning to mentor, not dominate, Xerekās ideology (order through perfection) vs the messy humanity of real heroes, and passing responsibility and ideals to the next generation. Helen didn't lie out of deceit; she was projecting her own fears. You might notice Pixar has a running theme with āemotional dishonesty as moral testā arcs (like Marlin in Finding Nemo or Elastigirlās doubt in Incredibles 2). When she finally confesses, itās the turning point where emotional truth saves the day, almost echoing the franchiseās central message that a heroās strength comes from vulnerability.
