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damien is literally a trans man like all other problems aside youre genderbending a fucking trans person you creep

take five minutes to relax and ask yourself if this is really something worth wasting your energy over

take 5 minutes to relax and ask yourself why youre looking thru the notes of this shitty post just to attack rightfully upset trans people

hm…no…that’s not what happened

“attack” is an interesting word though; I don’t feel like arguing with someone who apparently has such a strong victim complex

this motherfucker: //scours this stupid ass drawing for rightfully upset trans ppl

this motherfucker: “attack? nooooo me? come at innocent people for absolutely no reason other than to tell them that even tho theyre trans they have no autonomy over how theyre represented? me? attack?”

Hey genderfluid person here!

They weren’t “attacking” you for telling you to relax. Like you say the drawing is stupid so why be so bothered over it? Just move past it, it’s not affecting the game itself and it’s one character in a genderbent AU. No malice was meant with the drawing of the character but calling the artist a creep and insulting him is unneeded, it’s better to inform than too attack like that.

Fawn wasn’t attacking you they were telling you to relax. You however insulted the OP which in turn was attacking them for something they drew.

they drew an offensive caricature also we already worked it out but go off i guess

I do not find it offensive, me a genderfluid individal who was born a male and leans mainly towards identifying femininly.

I think the art is fine and it can easily be interpreted as being MtF instead of FtM in this AU and it would make sense since every other character was genderbent as well.

Genderbending is flipping the gender of a character not making them trans or un-trans. If a trans characters gender is flipped it’d only make sense their birth sex was also flipped.

im a trans man and im telling you making a trans man a woman in any sense is nasty and theres no way around it

A transman being genderbent to a transwomen isn’t offensive. Neither is the vice versa of it.

We are at an impass here and neither will change their stance. It’s fictional art and no one is forcing you to look at it and it wont affect canon or any other media in any way shape or form.

you a trans man? nah? then listen to one

I have as much a say as you do. As I’m sure if it was reversed and it was a transwomen to transman you’d still be freaking out and calling me a transphobe for not finding it offensive.

In the end it’s art. It can’t hurt anyone. It’s not telling you you aren’t trans anymore, it’s not invalidating the canon character because it will never affect canon. It’s just pixels on a screen.

dont matter if it doesnt affect canon its telling of ops personal values also if youre not a trans man dont speak over a trans man about trans man issues you dont live the trans man experience just like i dont live the genderfluid experience so if there was some anti-genderfluid shit goin on i would have to be on your side and listen to how you feel about it bc thats the closest to a first person view im gonna have of the situation

The thing is: A person who is something isn’t always going to be right on what they believe. We mold our reality by ideas and concepts we ourselves deem as correct and true but who is to say what is truly correct and true?

There’s plenty of other transmen who are not offended by this and plenty of non-trans people offended on the behalf of those they ASSUME SHOULD be offended.

OP drew the entire cast as genderbent, they never specifically said they were cis or couldn’t be interpreted as being a transwoman. OP might just like women but it’s not wrong to make art of things you enjoy. You assume OP is transphobic without ever hearing their side and instead focus on being angry.

I’m not saying I’m 100% correct these are my opinions, people shouldn’t live in constant offense over simple things. There’s much bigger issues to address than someone making a piece of art on the internet.

so did you get your philosphy degree for free online or did you find it in the garbage

This ladies and gentlemen is what we like to call “grasping for straws” since they have nothing else to argue with. Notice how they try to cling desperately to one little thing and pray that it sticks.

Just learn to enjoy genderbending, it’s actually a lot more fun than when you try to find every single thing wrong with it.

just learn to listen to trans people when they speak its a lot more fun wjen you arent being a transphobe

I’m curious where you found that I’m transphobic but okay, stunning revelation for me.

Also fun fact, I don’t really care if someone is trans, black, Asian, Indian, Martin whatever, the moment you decide to become an asshole to someone who made art that’s harmless and actually pretty neat is the moment where you become an asshole that hates fun and hates others having fun.

//speaks over trans people //compares non cishet white ppl to aliens //calls a transphobic caricature “harmless”

“how am i a transphobe?”

Anyon

How is the caricature harmful, @goodfrogboy ?

@goodfrogboy

@alex-second-best its harmful to make a trans man a woman in any way and its nasty to say “women look like this. men look like this.” when thats something that a lot of trans people struggle with

So it’s disrespectful to genderbend someone who’s trans, and not someone who’s cis? Isn’t transphobia treating trans people differently because they’re trans?

nope! genderbending anyone is disrespectful for the reason i said above! its just adding insult to injury when you bend a trans person! ALSO theres intersex people kr people with pcos or something else that may be a cis woman that looks like a cis man or visa versa and these depictions are super harmful to their self image! and translhobia isnt necessarily treating someone DIFFERENT for being trans, but treating someone POORLY for being trans or erasing their identity all together! thank you for asking and being polite btw this is so refreshing

I do believe that genderbending can be disrespectful, especially due to the fact that gender doesn’t have an ‘opposite’- esp. with intersex, agender, genderfluid, non-passing transpeople, etc.

However, I am concerned about how you adressed this issue. Saying “damien is literally a trans man … youre genderbending a fucking trans person you creep” is kinda rude- insults aside, if you were addressing the issue of genderbending, did you have to pick out the transperson in the image? You were saying that it is a problem in general, so why did you purposefully claim transphobia to make all the male characters appear female?

Why is it transphobic if all of the characters were passing males, who were genderbent to passing females?

oh i just picked out damien specifically because that was an issue close to me, and like i said its insult to injury! and in my initial response i mentioned in the tags that there was plenty of other problems with this but that was the one that stood out the most. like not only is op genderbending which is transphobic on its own, but theyre even stooping so low to genderbend a TRANS PERSON which is lower than low. regarding the insults, i usually dont feel the need to be kind and gentle to wildly terrible people. if she approached this like you did then there would be no problem and i wouldnt have been nearly as harsh. its not a minoritys job to hold the priviledged persons hand and pat em on the back and say “thats ok dear, you just made a little mistake” and doing so has had us killed since forever now. and its transphobic to make someone that passes as one gender completely switch around and pass as another because like i said before its basically saying “this is a woman. this is a man.” its something trans people struggle with a lot and it makes cis people out to be the norm

I struggle with passing often as well, so I appreciate the sentiment behind this- especially the “this is a man, this is a woman” quote, because it is a genuine problem and we need to work on fixing it. Thank you for clearing up your arguments for me, and have a great night/day :)

i hope you have a nice night/day too! thank you for approaching me respectfully and hearing me out it was very refreshing!

But am I right in thinking that the artist had no idea they were trans? A lot of artists I knew weren’t aware. That doesn’t make it a personal attack on trans people, it’s not like you could ask a fictional character their identity.

Someone not being aware that a FICTIONAL CHARACTER was trans does not make them transphobic. Tumblr preaches tolerance yet has none themselves.

This certainly does not warrant this kind of behaviour against the artist as well as death threats! No excuses.

the artist said that they were cool w this coming off as something transphobic also i said earlier that its not my job to hold her hand and baby her about how ignorant she is

Please don’t call me “pal”. From what I know the artist wasn’t aware of the character being trans. That does not warrant the excessive abuse. Sending someone death threats is inexcusable for anyone, nevermind an apparent “open-minded” community. I just feel there should be more focus on REAL trans problems, rather than fanart of a fictional character.

did i send her death threats? no tbh in any case i think death threats are bullshitty but how is what im doing “excessive abuse” and how is it that my ONE COMMENT MIND YOU is “excessive abuse” when dozens of people hunting me down to slit my throat over this isnt

I didn’t say you did, thats the thing, not everything is about you. I’m saying passively supporting the abuse rather than shutting down the death threats is just as bad. You are contributing to it, I did not say you were the sole cause. People end their lives through stuff like this and it’s terrible that people are pushed to that limit. This is when people should be standing together, not mindlessly attacking people for such a miniscule scenario. The fact that you are also receiving death threat is terrible. This website is getting worse.

so do yu hear yrself when yu speak oooorrrrrr

Ok. I can see you clearly have no reasonable response for a civilised conversation other than just passively aggressively throwing jibs in your tags. It's sad to see really that you are literally grasping at straws for some kind of input, I wouldn't have bothered even replying, but I guess you thrive on this kind of drama. "Just a suggestion", but maybe you should find life outside of the Internet too. Good riddance.

Dream MILF ♥

damien is literally a trans man like all other problems aside youre genderbending a fucking trans person you creep

take five minutes to relax and ask yourself if this is really something worth wasting your energy over

take 5 minutes to relax and ask yourself why youre looking thru the notes of this shitty post just to attack rightfully upset trans people

hm…no…that’s not what happened

“attack” is an interesting word though; I don’t feel like arguing with someone who apparently has such a strong victim complex

this motherfucker: //scours this stupid ass drawing for rightfully upset trans ppl

Hey genderfluid person here!

Fawn wasn’t attacking you they were telling you to relax. You however insulted the OP which in turn was attacking them for something they drew.

they drew an offensive caricature also we already worked it out but go off i guess

I do not find it offensive, me a genderfluid individal who was born a male and leans mainly towards identifying femininly.

I think the art is fine and it can easily be interpreted as being MtF instead of FtM in this AU and it would make sense since every other character was genderbent as well.

Genderbending is flipping the gender of a character not making them trans or un-trans. If a trans characters gender is flipped it’d only make sense their birth sex was also flipped.

im a trans man and im telling you making a trans man a woman in any sense is nasty and theres no way around it

A transman being genderbent to a transwomen isn’t offensive. Neither is the vice versa of it.

We are at an impass here and neither will change their stance. It’s fictional art and no one is forcing you to look at it and it wont affect canon or any other media in any way shape or form.

you a trans man? nah? then listen to one

I have as much a say as you do. As I’m sure if it was reversed and it was a transwomen to transman you’d still be freaking out and calling me a transphobe for not finding it offensive.

There’s plenty of other transmen who are not offended by this and plenty of non-trans people offended on the behalf of those they ASSUME SHOULD be offended.

so did you get your philosphy degree for free online or did you find it in the garbage

Just learn to enjoy genderbending, it’s actually a lot more fun than when you try to find every single thing wrong with it.

just learn to listen to trans people when they speak its a lot more fun wjen you arent being a transphobe

I’m curious where you found that I’m transphobic but okay, stunning revelation for me.

//speaks over trans people //compares non cishet white ppl to aliens //calls a transphobic caricature “harmless”

“how am i a transphobe?”

Anyon

How is the caricature harmful, @goodfrogboy ?

@goodfrogboy

@alex-second-best its harmful to make a trans man a woman in any way and its nasty to say “women look like this. men look like this.” when thats something that a lot of trans people struggle with

So it’s disrespectful to genderbend someone who’s trans, and not someone who’s cis? Isn’t transphobia treating trans people differently because they’re trans?

I do believe that genderbending can be disrespectful, especially due to the fact that gender doesn’t have an ‘opposite’- esp. with intersex, agender, genderfluid, non-passing transpeople, etc.

Why is it transphobic if all of the characters were passing males, who were genderbent to passing females?

i hope you have a nice night/day too! thank you for approaching me respectfully and hearing me out it was very refreshing!

Someone not being aware that a FICTIONAL CHARACTER was trans does not make them transphobic. Tumblr preaches tolerance yet has none themselves.

This certainly does not warrant this kind of behaviour against the artist as well as death threats! No excuses.

the artist said that they were cool w this coming off as something transphobic also i said earlier that its not my job to hold her hand and baby her about how ignorant she is

I didn't say you did, thats the thing, not everything is about you. I'm saying passively supporting the abuse rather than shutting down the death threats is just as bad. You are contributing to it, I did not say you were the sole cause. People end their lives through stuff like this and it's terrible that people are pushed to that limit. This is when people should be standing together, not mindlessly attacking people for such a miniscule scenario. The fact that you are also receiving death threat is terrible. This website is getting worse.

Dream MILF ♥

damien is literally a trans man like all other problems aside youre genderbending a fucking trans person you creep

take five minutes to relax and ask yourself if this is really something worth wasting your energy over

take 5 minutes to relax and ask yourself why youre looking thru the notes of this shitty post just to attack rightfully upset trans people

hm…no…that’s not what happened

“attack” is an interesting word though; I don’t feel like arguing with someone who apparently has such a strong victim complex

this motherfucker: //scours this stupid ass drawing for rightfully upset trans ppl

Hey genderfluid person here!

Fawn wasn’t attacking you they were telling you to relax. You however insulted the OP which in turn was attacking them for something they drew.

they drew an offensive caricature also we already worked it out but go off i guess

I do not find it offensive, me a genderfluid individal who was born a male and leans mainly towards identifying femininly.

I think the art is fine and it can easily be interpreted as being MtF instead of FtM in this AU and it would make sense since every other character was genderbent as well.

Genderbending is flipping the gender of a character not making them trans or un-trans. If a trans characters gender is flipped it’d only make sense their birth sex was also flipped.

im a trans man and im telling you making a trans man a woman in any sense is nasty and theres no way around it

A transman being genderbent to a transwomen isn’t offensive. Neither is the vice versa of it.

We are at an impass here and neither will change their stance. It’s fictional art and no one is forcing you to look at it and it wont affect canon or any other media in any way shape or form.

you a trans man? nah? then listen to one

I have as much a say as you do. As I’m sure if it was reversed and it was a transwomen to transman you’d still be freaking out and calling me a transphobe for not finding it offensive.

There’s plenty of other transmen who are not offended by this and plenty of non-trans people offended on the behalf of those they ASSUME SHOULD be offended.

so did you get your philosphy degree for free online or did you find it in the garbage

Just learn to enjoy genderbending, it’s actually a lot more fun than when you try to find every single thing wrong with it.

just learn to listen to trans people when they speak its a lot more fun wjen you arent being a transphobe

I’m curious where you found that I’m transphobic but okay, stunning revelation for me.

//speaks over trans people //compares non cishet white ppl to aliens //calls a transphobic caricature “harmless”

“how am i a transphobe?”

Anyon

How is the caricature harmful, @goodfrogboy ?

@goodfrogboy

@alex-second-best its harmful to make a trans man a woman in any way and its nasty to say “women look like this. men look like this.” when thats something that a lot of trans people struggle with

So it’s disrespectful to genderbend someone who’s trans, and not someone who’s cis? Isn’t transphobia treating trans people differently because they’re trans?

I do believe that genderbending can be disrespectful, especially due to the fact that gender doesn’t have an ‘opposite’- esp. with intersex, agender, genderfluid, non-passing transpeople, etc.

Why is it transphobic if all of the characters were passing males, who were genderbent to passing females?

i hope you have a nice night/day too! thank you for approaching me respectfully and hearing me out it was very refreshing!

Someone not being aware that a FICTIONAL CHARACTER was trans does not make them transphobic. Tumblr preaches tolerance yet has none themselves.

This certainly does not warrant this kind of behaviour against the artist as well as death threats! No excuses.

the artist said that they were cool w this coming off as something transphobic also i said earlier that its not my job to hold her hand and baby her about how ignorant she is

Please don't call me "pal". From what I know the artist wasn't aware of the character being trans. That does not warrant the excessive abuse. Sending someone death threats is inexcusable for anyone, nevermind an apparent "open-minded" community. I just feel there should be more focus on REAL trans problems, rather than fanart of a fictional character.

Dream MILF ♥

damien is literally a trans man like all other problems aside youre genderbending a fucking trans person you creep

take five minutes to relax and ask yourself if this is really something worth wasting your energy over

take 5 minutes to relax and ask yourself why youre looking thru the notes of this shitty post just to attack rightfully upset trans people

hm…no…that’s not what happened

“attack” is an interesting word though; I don’t feel like arguing with someone who apparently has such a strong victim complex

this motherfucker: //scours this stupid ass drawing for rightfully upset trans ppl

Hey genderfluid person here!

Fawn wasn’t attacking you they were telling you to relax. You however insulted the OP which in turn was attacking them for something they drew.

they drew an offensive caricature also we already worked it out but go off i guess

I do not find it offensive, me a genderfluid individal who was born a male and leans mainly towards identifying femininly.

I think the art is fine and it can easily be interpreted as being MtF instead of FtM in this AU and it would make sense since every other character was genderbent as well.

Genderbending is flipping the gender of a character not making them trans or un-trans. If a trans characters gender is flipped it’d only make sense their birth sex was also flipped.

im a trans man and im telling you making a trans man a woman in any sense is nasty and theres no way around it

A transman being genderbent to a transwomen isn’t offensive. Neither is the vice versa of it.

We are at an impass here and neither will change their stance. It’s fictional art and no one is forcing you to look at it and it wont affect canon or any other media in any way shape or form.

you a trans man? nah? then listen to one

I have as much a say as you do. As I’m sure if it was reversed and it was a transwomen to transman you’d still be freaking out and calling me a transphobe for not finding it offensive.

There’s plenty of other transmen who are not offended by this and plenty of non-trans people offended on the behalf of those they ASSUME SHOULD be offended.

so did you get your philosphy degree for free online or did you find it in the garbage

Just learn to enjoy genderbending, it’s actually a lot more fun than when you try to find every single thing wrong with it.

just learn to listen to trans people when they speak its a lot more fun wjen you arent being a transphobe

I’m curious where you found that I’m transphobic but okay, stunning revelation for me.

//speaks over trans people //compares non cishet white ppl to aliens //calls a transphobic caricature “harmless”

“how am i a transphobe?”

Anyon

How is the caricature harmful, @goodfrogboy ?

@goodfrogboy

@alex-second-best its harmful to make a trans man a woman in any way and its nasty to say “women look like this. men look like this.” when thats something that a lot of trans people struggle with

So it’s disrespectful to genderbend someone who’s trans, and not someone who’s cis? Isn’t transphobia treating trans people differently because they’re trans?

I do believe that genderbending can be disrespectful, especially due to the fact that gender doesn’t have an ‘opposite’- esp. with intersex, agender, genderfluid, non-passing transpeople, etc.

Why is it transphobic if all of the characters were passing males, who were genderbent to passing females?

i hope you have a nice night/day too! thank you for approaching me respectfully and hearing me out it was very refreshing!