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Okay, so you know how we got the orange cardigan box set today? The song being played in the background is "So it goes" (the one Rep song that wasn't included in the rep tour). Well someone pointed out something very interesting on blue sky. October 3rd has been long fortold
I’m puzzled indeed 🧩 But so interesting 🤔
Gaylor Subreddit your the loml 😭😭😭
¡¡ NEWS FLASH !!
Hundreds Of Gaylors Displaced As Vital Congregation Hub Closes Doors To Protect Members From Persecution And Hate Crimes
Publish THAT in your bloody news, I dare you!!! 📰
“celebrating the ‘death’ of a queer fandom is unhinged behavior, actually.”
this article is definitely worth the read, especially what’s been happening recently.
Opinion: Celebrating the 'death' of a queer fandom is unhinged behavior, actually.
Gaylor is dead, long live Gaylor!
the way being a taylor swift fan has kind of become metabolized as this inherent trait of womanhood is very bizarre
"pov all the women in your zoom meeting talking about taylor's engagement" "check on the women in your life this is a big day" it's just all so myopic, and it's less to do with taylor herself or her music and more with this neverending (and currently thriving) obsession with gender norms, with girl stuff/boy stuff, with redefining being a #girl or woman as baking cookies and pink bows and obsession with men. and im not even gonna start on the infantilization of this talking point that women universally arent gonna be able to focus on anything, including work and school and chores, today bc a celebrity is engaged. just a girl, etc.
IF YOU'RE SO CONVINCED SHE'S GAY WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO FUCKING OUT HER??? SO YOU'RE DELUSIONAL AND A BAD PERSON THEN!!!
What and excellent question!
I know this comes from a place of anger rather than genuine curiosity, but since it has been asked, I might as well try and answer it to the best of my ability. Though excuse me for not taking days to properly formulate and edit and perfect a bombproof essay on it. This is tumblr, and I'm somewhat strapped for time.
Let me start with outlining the kind of preferred "evidence" we like to work with. While we (unfortunately?) are not above clamouring over a blurry candid shot or some mysterious blind item, our first line of inquest has always been her music, followed by what we *perceive* as wilful signals that she herself is using.
These signals are called "flagging" and are based on queer culture. The point of flagging is finding a safe way to express yourself to "safe" people. We don't expect that general Swifties would recognise them, as they are covert and deniable by design.
Which of course leads us to the inevitable question: could we be misinterpreting things? Yes. Yes, we could. What gives us the conviction that we aren't, is Taylor's long history of planting these hints, and how to the "trained eye" so many lines of evidence just keep adding up.
I've not come here to defend every single theory that's out there. Just the most basic basics of it all and our approach to them. So. To get to the meat of the matter.
ARE we outing Taylor?
No. First of all, we have no "incriminating" evidence that would at once convince the general public. As mentioned before, our evidence in form of flagging is circumstantial and designed to be inoffensive enough to be deniable. It would be our word against hers--and we have already seen how that goes in the public narrative... EVEN THOUGH she has never stated anything outright.
When so many celebs fight the queer allegations with very clear language, why does Miss Swift always have to find some weird roundabout way to at least *seem* to get the message across? But man, I'm not gonna even start debating that here, because that's a whole different can of worms.
Next. Do we have any mean or evil intentions when discussing her queerness? No. DECIDEDLY NO. Could some people consider it as risky or misguided? MAYBE. We, however, only have the best of intentions.
First and foremost, we spread the message among US, the queer community. Part of the goal is to create awareness and build a support network to bolster both her and her queer followers for the IF and when the time ever comes for her to make a public statement. The likelihood of this happening is not agreed on. Some think it's a mere matter of time, others fear that it will never be safe for her, or beneficial for that matter.
In leu of a coming out, we are here to signal to her that some people do recognise her for the queer icon she is. We want her to feel less alone, less misunderstood. Can that really be so wrong?
We don't think it's wrong. I don't think it's wrong. It's good intentions and a positive mission all around.
But let's just assume for the sake of argument that we ARE wrong in our assumptions. What exactly is the harm we are doing?
IF she's queer, we are a small force behind her to support her and cheer her on, to give her confidence that she will be loved, even if she dares to take any sort of step towards risking her career by maybe coming out. IF she's the straightest straight that ever straighted... what exactly are a handful of slightly off kilter queers online REALLY gonna do to her or her reputation or her brand?
I think our power and influence on her, on the world she lives in as a (potentially) straight billionaire MEGASTAR has long been overestimated. We are harmless. Most of us have way more decorum than those who are currently speculating over Travis' manhood and how he's FINALLY fucking her real good and how badly she needed that. Sorry to be crass, but that doesn't even compare to some of the shit I've read online. And each time it drives home to me the fact how deranged other factions of the fandom are. Yet Gaylors are suffering the backlash more than anyone else. Interesting.
Really, at worst, we might be a little bitter, that this man and his role in her life is celebrated in such a way that it now begins to undermine her own accomplishments. Her massive amounts of awards, her impressive catalogue, her world shattering success with The Eras Tour, her fight to regain her masters. That's all cool and cute, until she suddenly gets engaged. Everything seems to pale now in comparison, except that one single further milestone she needs to hit ASAP going by many opinions: Motherhood.
If there is one singular thing we Gaylors really are losing our collectives shits over in the aftermath of the engagement announcement, it's that.
And I think, that's where I'll leave it for now. I hope it gave you a vague insight in our intentions and character. I'm not going to pretend that there is no over the top theorising afoot... like ever... But that's an interesting phenomenon that spans the entire fandom, isn't it? And you know, Taylor will most likely never be any the wiser. Who can even touch her these days? We aren't invading her home, her inner circle, her actual privacy. We aren't the paps who stalk her. We take publicly accessible materials and draw our own conclusions, discussing them online, sharing amongst our peers. What we say has no true bite, but it creates community and awareness for queer issues and language, even if they may not apply to Taylor in the end of the day. Taylor's gonna be fine regardless, whether she's queer or not.
I belive, the Swiftie infighting and all that hatred going around right now makes us all feel and look way worse than any silly Gaylor theories ever could if they are just left alone. For real.
Wanna do "Mother" proud? Start by being more peaceful and tolerant. Stop mocking people for sport. Mind your own business. Come to us to learn if you really want, but not to persecute us. This "civil war" is absurd. At the very least you can go on to ignore us. It would save everyone involved a whole lot of upset 🙏
That's it, I guess. I'm cool with disagreeing. Just let's try and do it in a peaceful (and ideally respectful) way. 🫶
Taylor mentioned 3 stand out numbers in the podcast yesterday after emphasizing how much she loves to use dates and those were "16 months" "186" and "47"
Page Six even made a post drawing attention to her multiple mentions of "47" so me being the number person I am I took it upon myself to figure it out and yall-
16 months, 186 weeks, and 47 days prior to last night's album reveal on the Podcast was August 3rd 2020.
Which is not only just Karlie's birthday, it's specifically when Taylor made EXILE a single
Exile Ends began in the Bejeweled MV aka the same MV we got the first taste of her plans for this Showgirl album! Which also had the Cinderella theme of the clock striking Midnight "meet me at Midnight" and now we've arrived at the 12th album so I am almost certain all her numerology references was pointing back to Exile Ends !!
@spade-riddles has got.me thinking. If the two, almost three, children of Karlie and Josh are not theirs, and they aren't Taylor's and Karlie's, how horrible it must be for these children to be pawns in an adult game.
If I think about it logically. Like logically. How can Taylor or Karlie, who both have insanely busy lives, take care of these children properly? Karlie especially, who we see more actually doing events and such. Taylor always off stunting... What kind of life would that be for a child? If we think about say. The Louis Tomlinson x Briana Jungwirth stunt which is called baby gate, Briana clearly wasn't pregnant etc. You can look it all up in a masterpost on a wonderful blog called @/twopoppies if you want more info; it's called baby gate and I do believe that Freddie is not Louis's child. It's very obvious there and there are many other similarties between Harry and Louis and Karlie and Taylor in other ways....the point I'm getting at is clearly Karlie was pregnant, wasn't she?
Was K made to do this for publicity purposes? ( I'm not suggesting anything untoward. I'm just wondering).
As for Josh. I don't ever talk about him. I have nothing to say about him or his vile family, only that if Karlie had had to choose a braid, she chose someone loathsome, possibly to separate herself more publicly from Taylor after kissgate and the failed coming out. Whenever I see him he looks miserable.
All I'm saying is how do we really know. If there is a divorce and all three children go with josh, well there we go. On the other hand if they go with Karlie. On the other hand what about Robin? That's one of the loudest pieces of evidence we have for them being K&T's children.
And as for those photos in Italy.... That's not Karlie for sure. It does look similar to Taylor. How do we know.
I hope these children find happiness, purpose and peace as they grow up if they are just... Actors in a stunt and have no way of knowing it.
Dear Op,
A few thoughts if I may? No hate, no shade, just an open discussion. Heck, I’m not even sure how much I believe in this scenario. I just observe a few very curious circumstances and think (mostly to myself, so I won’t post more on this issue) that nothing is *impossible*. So yeah… Assuming for the sake of this argument, that these children are Taylor’s in some shape or form…
First, to address the Josh of it all. From what I understand, he is no angel. BUT to me, he very much seems to be hardly worse than your average business mogul kinda guy. If you want to argue that those people are all evil, then fine. But at the very least, I think lumping him in with his dreadful family is doing him a great disservice. If his family is the baseline standard, he seems to be a fairly decent dude. Just my opinion from what I’ve read and heard. No need to agree.
Ok. Moving on. The kids. Since we lack any sort of clarity regarding the situation, I’m gonna be charitable and assume that everyone is putting in their best effort, simply to counter the argument that the entire arrangement is bound to be cruel to the children.
First of all: do you know the saying “It takes a village to raise a child”?
What I mean to say with that, is that it is inherently misguided to insist that the modern western core family is the only acceptable and healthy family structure.
No, we don’t have much to go by, but as far as we can tell, Josh very much seems to be a prominent, very much involved father figure in the kids’ lives. Whether he is their biological father (which is pretty likely imo) or not, he’s there, and whatever happens in the future, who is to say that that is gonna fundamentally change?
Next we have Karlie. Very much seems to be your regular celebrity mom. She probably has some paid help, but she seems very affectionate and pretty present overall. Nice. No notes. That makes two solid parents. Again, we have no reason to believe that Josh will ever suddenly go *poof* out of nowhere. Their family structure already started out pretty unconventional and might stay like that—whether we will be able to see that or not.
Where does that leave Taylor? I don’t know if she’s the “far away mommy” or a very involved auntie… but I think that, if she has a particular connection to and a vested interest in these children, there are so many ways for her to be part of their lives. I can draw personal references to overseas grandparents. With already two stable parent figures in place, a bonus mom only adds to the number of loving, caring people in the boys’ lives. They can arrange catch-ups in secret, they could be (video) calling every single night, who knows.
Let’s not forget, that these children are still VERY young. If this is their normal, without much outside influences to convince them otherwise, for the time being, they aren’t going to question it all that much. Maybe that’s exactly why it feels like we are perhaps heading for a coming out and a reveal. The idea could very much be to set the record straight and smooth potential backlash over before the children are old enough to be hurt by the immediate discourse on social media or the tabloid narrative, which will without a doubt explode like the time bombs they have always been.
There is still time for Josh and “faraway mommy” or auntie Taylor to swap places or something like that. Time for Taylor to come home and stay with the family more. Circumstances changed and she can finally spend more time with them. Josh might move out, but plenty of families can manage co-parenting pretty well. I’m sure that’s all simple enough to explain to a preschooler. The question of who is genetically related to whom certainly could wait until much later, when they can have reasonable talks about these sort of things. But at the same time, even if they wanted to clear this up right away, if it’s treated as matter of fact and just as how their family works, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a huge deal.
Of course you could call it selfishness. But unfortunately, there could have been pre-existing plans as far as 6 years back or sooner that were crushed. And even though that put parts of their relationship on hold, women of reproductive age sadly have their own biological limits to consider. They couldn’t wait for forever if a family with kids was so incredibly important to them. Likewise, it would probably have started to look funny in terms of Karlie’s and Josh’s marriage…
ALL THIS TO SAY…
I don’t know if it’s true. If it is, I don’t know if your scenario is more similar to reality than mine or vice versa. Or maybe they thought of something we didn’t consider at all.
We. Just. Don’t. Know.
How about we continue to cautiously observe what we see, take some mental notes and wait for clear indicators of what’s actually going on. Maybe that’s already more than we should do in the first place.
Let’s not judge before we know for sure, and even then… none of us will ever be able to comprehend what their situation really is like for them, the mental toll it would take on everyone involved.
That’s all, I guess 😌
what’s your type?
What a curious question… 😅
Hmmmm, let me see… ocean-blue eyes, looking in mine? But also those green eyes when the lights go down. Wouldn’t say no to freckles and bright eyes either 🤔 And whether it’s a lilac short skirt or if she’s got that red lip classic thing going on…
I really am not too picky, but mostly on the girly side please…? But maybe I could be persuaded to have another look at the gal with the James Dean daydream look in her eyes as well, even if her hair is slicked back and she just wears a simple white T-shirt. If I see her in a suit and a necktie… that might be ok, too, as long as she passes me a note that says “meet me tonight” ☺️
And 5 years later that day we get ICDIWABH?! Sus as heeeeeeeeeelllllllll!!!!
Here's all the release dates
Wikipedia says only July 2nd… I guess first release is the main one? Dunno… 🤷♀️ But in Italy first is kinda random 😂
* edited to add:
They do mention it later on Wikipedia, but not very prominently…. Also still … why Italy? She’d long moved on to UK by end of June and her firstly July shows were in Amsterdam 😂 Reasons, I guess 🤷♀️ 😂
And 5 years later that day we get ICDIWABH?! Sus as heeeeeeeeeelllllllll!!!!
This is probably just me being silly, but….
… crying at the GYM? 😂
Link to the actual page:
Gay Youth Movement - LGBT Archive
New to Gaylor Watch this video
Pretty Informative
If you want to know how I arrived at my conclusions
What she said ⬆️⬆️⬆️
One of the best videos out there, from the actual analysis to the attitude. Love, love, LOVE it! 🥹
So I know a lot of people have honed onto this scene from YNTCD. And iirc 2 other Gaylors have identified the images of Stonewall and the denim jacket, but the balloons pic and the people in Pride flags were not.
But I was stuck in bed today so I dug up the final 2.
One of these days I’ll figure out when they’re originally from, but I’m sleepy.
Is She Gonna Speak Now?
Hey guys! I’ve been noticing that a lot of avenues seem to go back to Speak Now recently, and I’ve been collecting all these “clues” (either real or imagined) in my head till now. But Today’s hockey game outfit kinda made my brain bubble over, so I’m gonna share what I believe to have observed so far…
First of all, 15s have been popping up in various places—though here comes the problem with trying to be chill about it and not going overboard with meticulously collecting evidence… I kinda dropped the ball and forgot WHERE I’ve seen them. Maybe you have noticed them, too and could help me out?
Anyway. This is important why? Because this year’s 15th anniversary of Speak Now.
Speak Now was first released 25th October ’10. Thats a) 15 years (🥳) and b) there is a perfect mirror date on 10th October ’25, which also is a Friday. Maybe that’s something, maybe not. But it could be a fun opportunity!
Oh, and here are 2 15s for you that I DO remember:
So High School.
The song that some love and others love to hate. The silly little number that many don’t think deserved a spot on the Eras set list.
It just so happens to run for 3:48 min, which equals 15.
It also MAY reference Enchanted with lyrics such as
🎶 I feel so High School 🎶 (Taylor may have been freshly out of school around the time she wrote Enchanted)
🎶 I wanna find you in a crowd 🎶 (reminiscent of the setting we start out with in Enchanted)
🎶Tell me ‘bout the first time you saw me 🎶 (Enchanted is all about how they saw each other and were immediately drawn to each other)
🎶Blink of a crinklin’ eye🎶 , 🎶 Brink of a wrinkle in time 🎶 and 🎶Bittersweet sixteen suddenly🎶 all may refer to a a muse she originally met when they were both very young
Another 15: The Alchemy—Track 15 on TTPD, a song about returning to someone she’s previously been close to.
🎶 What if I told you I'm back?
The hospital was a drag
Worst sleep that I ever had
I circled you on a map
I haven't come around in so long
But I'm coming back so strong 🎶
OK, so far so good. That’s the 15th anniversary done. But there’s also a 2 year anniversary this day for Speak Now TV, which first came out on 7th July 2023.
I find it a little funny that 7 + 7 makes 14… with the Fortnight of it all… and now it’s been two years…
Now. Today’s outfit. Taylor wore this sporty number by AREA, a New York brand. Not exactly a staple in her wardrobe, so I immediately noticed this ONE other outfit by AREA that she sported in January. Let’s compare dates.
Today: 12th June (12 + 6 = 18)
January: 17th January (17 + 1 = 18)
Coincidence? 🤔 Then, I kept pondering about the name of the brand because the outfit names didn’t give me much, other than a vague bejewelled theme which I couldn’t place… and call me crazy, but I converted the letters to numbers:
1 18 5 1 = 18 and 7?
A R E A
Funnily enough, January and June (1 + 6) also give you 7 (July?), so this mathematical argument seems to be going in circles, centring around 18 and 7… Just for fun, I looked up her 2024 Eras surprise song performance from July 18:
Gelsenkirchen, Germany: Speak Now/Hey Stephen and This Is Me Trying/Labyrinth
This this really a plausible coincidence?!
And just the idea of “Speak Now” as an opportunity to speak ones mind, one’s truth… could this be a hint that something of that sort is coming soon? Maybe in July, once the June “danger zone” (because that’s when things derailed previously) is over? Just wondering 😌
Taylor creating the wittiest kind of lyrics: “…I slur your name ‘til someone puts me in a car…”
Swifties: “OMG IS THIS ABOUT MATTY HEALY”
I know one of the pumpkin messages maybe pumpkin messages 5 said their might be things that ring a bell her bag really is called the bell heart frame bag
The restaurant is called Buccan — a buccan is a wooden frame to grill or smoke meat on.
Her purse is called a “frame bag”
It’s all framed. Fake evidence for a thriving relationship.
Dear Travy is even wearing a chessboard on his pants as an ode to Miss Mastermind. Checkmate. ♟️
… or is it… a Finish Line?! 🏁 😂
🎶 Now we’re at the finish line, I did my time 🎶
Sorry I can't post the video
Same dress appears on the last slide of today’s TN post…. Must be pure chance… 🤷♀️
