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dally (impatient) tells ponyboy to âgiddy upâ and pony says âyeah man stop dilly dallyingâ and dally straight up smacks him
What the gang sees Vs what Darry's coworkers see
behold: my incomplete collection of lyrics from noah kahanâs âthe great divideâ album that remind me of the outsiders:
âend of augustâ - this immediately screamed darry to me because. he roofs houses. probably for the rich/socs.
âdoorsâ - this is so dally-coded to me. very âyou get tough like me and you donât get hurt.â
âdoorsâ - this is ponyboy. the thing that immediately grabbed me was âi scream in my sleepâ because we know he wakes up screaming from nightmares all the time. and then the âiâm the trouble aheadâ and âiâm a sure bet at a losinâ streakâ just because of all of his bad luck in life, from losing his parents (and blaming himself for not remembering to get the frosting, which is why his parents were in the car in the first place) to johnny killing bob to protect him (his fault again, for running out of the house), to johnny dying from the church fire (which he blames himself for starting with his cigarette, and johnny only ran in because ponyboy ran in first), to dallyâs death (because he couldnât stand to live without johnny). and then the part from âi keep showing you doorsâ to the end very much reminds me of how darry tried so hard in the beginning to understand ponyboy without success.
âamerican carsâ - to me this is how sodapop and ponyboy view darry. heâs their big brother and guardian, they and all their friends call him superman. he can handle anything, fix any problem, and will drop everything to be at their side. and again this works so well because darry works with tools for his roofing job, so he is literally always âfixingâ things.
âthe great divideâ - ponyboy and curly bc of their cigarette chicken game (except they are friends. to me).
âwilling and ableâ - DARRY AND PONYBOY WHILE PONY IS IN WINDRIXVILLE. they miss each other. they want to mend their relationship. they want to understand each other.
âporch lightâ - yeah this is darry during the Week From Hell. waiting up every night for pony to come home, for some news on his whereabouts. filled with self-loathing for pushing him away, thinking pony would be better off without him but still wanting him to come home anyway.
âheaded northâ - ponyboy about johnny after his death :((
âdanâ - ponyboy about dallyâs death. he immediately passed out afterward and was sick in the hospital for a while. convinced himself he killed bob and johnny wasnât dead. went into a major depressive episode while the rest of his friends were trying to heal and move on. âquit livingâ because he lost someone.
âWilling and Ableâ by Noah Kahan x The Curtis Brothers
Oh I am sick
Sodapop and Ponyboy core
I love the musical dearly but I just got sad bc I realized it omitted the detail of Darry yelling at Soda and that being Pony's final straw... Pony could handle Darry yelling at him, but not at Soda... and that's the outburst that got Ponyboy slapped đđ
Sodapop and Ponyboy core
Darrelâs biggest fear when he was 16 was that his friends and family secretly hated him. By 20, he learns that sometimes parents donât stick around to see you live. That it might be his fault his brothers donât have parents anymore.
He learns his âbest friendâs,â love was conditional, and that Darrel was never going to be enough, that years of friendship couldnât wash away âgreaser.â
He learns his baby brother, who heâd give up everything for, hates him enough to run away forever without saying bye. That itâs his fault.
Darrel, who thinks that maybe he wasnât meant to be loved.
No but also Darry knowing that Soda loves him even when heâs at his worst and thinking that he doesnât deserve that love âčïž
ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch
Darry and Soda dynamics đ„čđ„č
Darry checking on his brothers at night â€ïž
âI donât like to see women swore atâ and âI canât stand to see girls cryâ
Ponyboy is such a sweet kid I love him so much
if you dont like all three curtis brothers i dont trust you
I know canonically Darry and Sodapop only called Ponyboy âhoney/babyâ in private, but I also donât think the gang would make fun of them or be weird about terms of endearment like one might expect. I mean for one thing Darry and Soda would obviously start breaking jaws if they had anything smart to say about it, but also the gang all remembers how often Mrs. Curtis called them stuff like sweetie, baby, and honey too.
Steve still thinks about the first time he and his dad got into it bad enough that he got thrown out of the house, and when he showed up at the Curtisâs, she asked him âOh Steve honey whatâs wrong?â and heâs sure he hasnât cried that hard in anyoneâs arms before or since.
Or when Twobitâs dad left, Mrs. Curtis dropped off some food to help his mom out, and she squeezed his shoulders and told him âDonât worry sweetheart, you still have us!â
And of course if Ponyboy was âbaby,â so was Johnny. Heâd never even heard his own mother say half the terms of endearment Mrs. Curtis called him so freely and easily.
Dally pretends that he didnât ever notice her using pet names with them, though he still silently clings to the way she would call him âsonâ when theyâd have their little chats on the back step.
So whenever they overhear Darry asking Pony âyou want anything from the store, baby?â or Soda calling âcâmere for a sec honey, you missed a belt loopâ down the hall, the memory of her overrides any urge to tease the kid about it.
(Theyâve also just been around since Pony was an actual baby, so itâs not that odd or surprising to them that his bros would still call him stuff like that bc they also still kinda see him as a baby no matter how grown-up and tuff he gets)
the intellectual intimacy shared between ponyboy and johnny transcended any other kind of relationship and it needs to be talked about more.
i don't really subscribe to the outsiders musical content specifically but i have a lot of thoughts about cherry, specifically the misogyny she experiences and how she's seen as a villian by greasers + socs, and extra specifically how the socs turn on her post bob's death in justice for tulsa.
she starts with asking questions rather than placing blame-- "could this have gone a different way?" and more importantly asks "what have we done?", acknowledging the fact that the socs played a role in bob's death.
this immediately gets downplayed--"we were only having fun, doing what we've always done"--this can't possibly be our fault!
then it gets turned on her as soon as she brings up their past violence towards johnny. deflecting away from their actions onto her-- "you held his hand at the concession stand/ you know just what you did"
she becomes villianized and blamed, yet simultaneously demeaned--"i don't think you understand"-- clearly she couldn't possibly know what she's talking about!
there's almost a mocking of her trying to bring some nuance into the situation-- "we could sit here asking why"
can't help but wonder how this would've played out if a man played cherry's role in all of this. would her opinions and questions be mocked and demeaned? would she be spoken to like a child, who doesn't understand the implications of her actions?
it's clear she admires both bob and dallas, and i've always interpreted that to be because of their confidence and status/power they hold within their respective groups-- they are respected, listened to, and revered, even.
meanwhile, cherry is only seen in terms of her relationships with men: she's just bob's girlfriend, she doesn't know what she's talking about. she's "flirting" with ponyboy, she doesn't understand what she's doing. she's not capable of making decisions for herself, obviously! this is all her fault. she's reduced to almost an accessory for the men she interacts with, it doesn't ever cross the socs minds that she is like. a full person who understands her actions.
when she tries to speak her mind and consider both sides, even in the most delicate of ways, she's immediately shot down. she can't have an opinion, she's just bob's girl.
oh i could rant about cherry for years!! cherry valance they will never make me hate you.
brodyâs last GE â€ïžâđ©č
one. last. time.
I'm about to sob
When I say Pony is the baby of the gang, Iâm aware that âbabyâ is a very relative term in their circle. This is a kid who smoked and fought in rumbles probably since his age hit double digits.
âUgh, my brothers still treat me like a baby. They only let me fight in rumbles if theyâre there too. Specially if itâs with weapons. And last time Darry didnât even let me wrap my own ribs after, even though the other guys do it all the time. He made me sit there while he did it for me.â
âMY SONS! MY SONS!â i yell, jumping up and down pointing at fictional characters from the 60s