hello ithaqua ceo im here to bother you on tumblr cause i dont wanna ask on the discord
VERY ODDLY SPECIFIC QUESTION but i got reminded of this from other stuff:
- what do you think about ithaqua's interest in the moon?
he has some dialogue related to it, and i'm fairly confident that you must've seen the tarot card art where he was the moon card, so, if you have any overanalyzing or just general/raw takes i'm curious!! i've always loved the moon and it's popped up in my life a lot so i gotta ask
I think it's interesting on a broader, narrative level. As much as everyone knows and associates him with the moon, even the game itself, it is ever present but it is not so prominent in terms of symbolism and usage as one might think in comparison to his other interests/iconographies, such as the wind, birds, and stars. These three things are arguably the three big things that represent a facet of his identity and history.
Stars are used as a symbol of life itself in his story. Lagertha went on a journey of self discovery, of understanding the world and humanity better through the guidance of the stars, and in the journey she found meaning in giving life to another, and that child, whose namesake is that of a star (η Ursae Majoris, the exact star that lead her to him) found that the meaning of his life and his very existence lies in her and her well being. He doesn’t have interest in stars, thats Lagertha’s thing, but he is undeniably so linked to it. Birds i think is a bit subtle, but i don’t see many people pointing it out beyond “he likes birds,” because Lagertha even likens herself to migratory birds. And because i firmly believe his interests are strongly based on or influenced by Lagertha to some capacity, birds become a symbol of freedom and the eventual loss of freedom. Because both are so disconnected from the world around them, that they do and go as they please, they are merely witnesses unbound to the world, and the moment they ground themselves in the world they are soon caged. Eta especially, while unbound to the world, was always willing to be “caged” if it means to help her. So it really is poetic that his favorite animal and, the animal that represents him most, are birds. These two things are very prominently shown in All Is Silent, the song and his design. As he represents Eta himself, and how he feels about his life and origins, and how he has Lagertha at the center of it (this is especially fitting, and reinforced, by the sonnet that they chose for him which is pace non trovo. And even more so if you know anything about Petrarca and his fascination for Laura, how she is a way in which he views the world, and becomes the foundation of Il Canzoniere which pace non trovo is apart of).
Wind is mostly used to represent his nature, like how impulsive or spontaneous he can be, and how he always seems to find ways to breeze past the obstacles before him (though, it rarely solves the issues he has). He often speak of it as if it can talk to him, and honestly, knowing that it’s implied it does, then it only reinforces how it’s used to highlight his character and the narrative.
Now this isn’t to say that, the moon doesn’t have significance, it’s just that i think it’s somewhat more understated because you don’t easily see it in canon texts (yet) as such it is hard to judge on why he may personally find the moon interesting than any other celestial body.
The most obvious way to find this is to step back into the shoes of the writers. Eta is conceptualized as someone who is strongly linked to nighttime imagery, which would obviously point to the moon. A lot of the major events in his life happens at night, his birth and his “death” of self. It becomes an intrinsic part of his identity in a way that, it represents what he ultimately is; someone who is lonely, far removed from society, shrouded in mystique and uncertainty Someone who, conceals many things about himself. (which, unironically is what the Moon tarot card represents. The unknown and how someone goes about it. That it both represents terror, or a truth waiting to be found, you simply need to navigate through the dark. All that which highlights Eta’s internal struggle fairly well. Although I must preface that merchandise, while some are carefully picked to best suit the character, isn’t always so indicative of the character in canon. Although in this case i can somewhat confidently say it’s very intentional). So of course he would like the moon, the night is often peaceful, and perhaps the only place of respite and companionship he has later in life. Considering how Lagertha likes to stargaze, the moon would be something familiar and brings comfort. As well as, he wouldn’t like staying inside the house. Day or night, he would prefer to observe the world first hand.
However apart of me has come to believe that, the moon represents a sort of ambition and longing. Again, you don’t get this in canon material, but i find the most prominent usage of the moon is within Helel / Morningstar. He is the moon to Nebuchadnezzar’s sun, the one cast aside, the one who sits and waits in the shadows, perceived as an unknown force, the “devil” who wants to get back at “god.” In the end he “ate” the sun, hence why he and his followers are known as the eclipse. The moon then, represents his pursuit, his ambitions to set things right and bring comfort and stability to himself (and in canon context, what he deems is meaningful in his life). See how this still ties with the idea that the moon also generally represents concealment. A lot of the times, for Eta to achieve the stability he long for, he first has to hide and dehumanize himself. But what really cements the idea is Voiceless Rift in the recent livestream, the way they use the moon as analogy for the never ending need to fulfill or maintain something because it is inherently imperfect, because that way he can always be sure that he tried his best to upholds everything that ever made his life.
(I could honestly make a case for Helios, even though he is represented by the sun, on why the moon is still prominent to his existence. And no, not because of Waning Crescent, not entirely, but Maria. As she represents mercury which, is often linked with the moon and we see this mentioned in dialogues + Arya’s own design. It represents his ambition in alchemy, to honor and emulate Maria, the person who further sparked and helped his endeavors, to put himself next the greatest work itself, which includes overcoming his association with being Waning’s wannabe. Although Helios is a little dodgy to talk about simply because of bad writing, bad execution, and abhorrent EN localization that makes him look like he was written as someone who is arrogant because he is insecure and has a god complex, when in reality he’s just severely misguided due to the abusive environment he grew up in and has every right to think he knows better, but he never has thought of himself as infallible because he ultimately pursues the craft for the love of the game and nobody else but the meaning it gave him).
I hope my ramblings make any sort of sense to you and anyone else reading LOL