-ryan bird, the only band in the world, page 27
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can we talk about how tyler was genuinely surprised by josh's answer. we don't talk enough about how tyler was genuinely surprised by josh's answer. it makes me feel insane.
also. josh spending as much time in columbus as he did in la. im so. we don't talk about this full quote enough. can we talk about the full quote-
that's what I read: "your my home. your presence is enough to feel at home. you're the one I will always come back to. the only reason I can leave this city because I know you tether me to this place, because I know you wait for me, because I know I will return to you. Always."
I just wanted to say thank you so much, for so perfectly putting my own thoughts about recent events into words, better than I could have!
Am I personally happy with how "Drag Path" was edited, or the route they took with the video? No. Not really, for so many reasons. I'm a bit upset, to be honest.
Am I going to send Tyler and Josh, or the people who did enjoy the video hate mail and death threats for that? Also no. Because it's nobody's fault, that my own very specific expectations weren't met, by someone who doesn't even know I exist.
And am I any less appreciative to the boys, for seeing people love a song, and doing what they could to make sure we could all hear it, despite the fact that they're exhausted from being parents and touring basically nonstop for 14 years straight? You guessed it! No again!
It just boggles my mind, that some people in The Clique will go on about how the boys saved their lives one second, but then go around and steal or destroy their property during concerts, or think it's okay to harass and bully them, for whatever reason they use to justify it that day.
Tyler and Josh are human beings, with flaws and virtues like everyone else, albeit immensely talented and brilliant ones. They are Dads, and Sons, and Brothers, trying to figure things out day by day like the rest of us. I think they deserve a little grace and patience, as do all of us in this time where the world is constantly on fire. The outrage just isn't worth it, I promise ...
Oh, thank you so much for sharing your opinion as well! I’m really glad someone understood what I was trying to say on my last post.
“It’s nobody’s fault that my own very specific expectations weren’t met by someone who doesn’t even know I exist.” YES. exactly.
I was pretty upset at first, too. But I feel like most of what I think about the mv and edited version is already complaining about luxury problems? I mean we got the DR version (my absolute favorite song) already and no one can steal that away from us. And now we got an edited version and a music video and we all can decide if we want to consume them, right? so being overly mad is somehow a waste of energy, anyway.
It’s completely valid to feel disappointed or conflicted about creative choices. That’s part of being invested in art and in the people who make it. I would even argue that the moment a fandom stops discussing what could have been done better, the fandom is dead. It’s also not like they aren’t influenced by our opinions - what we say does matter.
But there’s a huge difference between thoughtful criticism and outright hostility. Like why are some constantly jumping to the most disrespectful accusations?
People often forget that things can coexist at the same time and that there’s a lot of space between “good” and “bad.”
I don’t know, but in my opinion (and not just in fandoms) people have increasingly started to see everything in black and white. They judge quickly. They post before they think. It often isn’t even about opinions anymore; it’s about assuming the absolute worst in someone and presenting that assumption as a final judgment of their entire character.
Because you once loved someone for their work doesn’t mean you have to believe that everything they do is good, that they are perfect people incapable of doing wrong. At the same time, constantly dissecting every action and twisting it to fit a narrative about how terrible they are is just pointless. It doesn’t move anyone forward, it just spreads negativity.
I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion about the edited version and music video of Drag Path. It didn’t really work for me either, I expected something different and that’s okay.
However, to say the band didn’t put any thought into the process just because it was an existing short film, and to ridicule the people who want to dig deeper into its possible meaning or connect it to lore, is just unfair.
So many people seem desperate to put the band in a negative light with everything they do. There was never any way that the release of this song would sit well with everybody. To accuse the band of just wanting to make quick money from it, or to say it’s just a random short film that was chosen without any intention of fitting the song, is just basically saying they don't care.
Say you didn’t like it. Say you’re disappointed for whatever reason. But maybe don’t imply it isn’t personal... you don’t know that. Don’t say Tyler and Josh weren’t interested in giving the video meaning. Even if we may never know the intention or story behind this decision.
a kitchen sink to you is not a kitchen sink to me, okay, friend?
And then one turned around to say: "We're driving toward the morning sun, where all your blood is washed away and all you did will be undone". [taxi cab]
I just wanna stay in the sun where I find, I know it's hard sometimes, pieces of peace in the sun's peace of mind. [ride]
Would you say you depend on the weather? My sunshine is a buzz and a light.. [good day]
You say "don't worry about my though, it looks so much warmer there" and I should try Topo Chico and get some more sun. [days lie dormant]
And I want love and sunny days. I'm a bit too old to run away. You make me sad and second-guess myself. You can be so cold. [midwest indigo]
Where we're from, there's no sun. / Be the one, be the one to take me home and show me the sun. [hometown]
As a shadow cast upon the ground where you'll eventually lay forever, but the day goes on, the sun moves behind you; you get taller, bolder, stronger and the review only blinds you. [choker]
When the sun is climbing window sills and the silver lining rides the hills, I will be saved for one whole day until the sun makes the hills its grave. [semi-automatic]
I wanted you to show me, but now the night has fallen, abondend by the sun. [city walls]
Now the night is coming to an end. The sun will rise and we will try again. [truce]
Then the sun begins to rise. We made it through the darkest night. You found me. [drag path]
"There's one more special guest that's gonna be part of the entire stream. He's my favorite musician. And when I said Micheal's my best friend, I kinda just said that. I don't mean it. Because listen. Listen. It's someone else. I gotta be honest with you. So my best friend. My true best friend. [...] It's a perfect person. The ying to my yang when it comes to all things in life and I introduce to you - my favorite person in the world: Josh Dun"
- Tyler Joseph in the Christmas Stream 2020
Look how giddy Josh looked after this (like I imagine he fr waited for his turn, ready for his silly joke "what's up my fortnite boys and girls" but then Tyler just kept on giving compliments and saying how important Josh is to him as an introduction and Josh clearly couldn't hide his excitement for a moment, like he couldn't keep his happiness about Tyler's words in any longer fluttering his eyeslashes, the laugh abruptly getting out like a sigh, dreamingly letting his eyes wander, the lip bite)
"We stayed up 'til 7 in the morning just talking about our dreams [...] we would try and just say like the craziest things, and they would both align. It was just like 'Dude, I want that too!'. It was just from the first day that we hung out that it was like, 'I want to play music with this guy. I want to be part of what he wants to do, and I believe that everything he's saying that matches up with what I believe can come true. It can happen' "
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