It is interesting that people seem to be able to conceptualize "AFABs" as being capable of having complex experiences with gender, yet transfeminized people (presumed "males" and "AMABs") must subject themselves to impossible standards to perform womanhood enough to be acknowledged and accepted, lest we are just another patriarch who deserves nothing.
What I am saying is that many people still see things in the FTM/MTF binary and they want to force the people they'd put in the FTM camp into maintaining enough femaleness to be "safe" - while demanding the people they'd put in the MTF camp break their backs to achieve it otherwise they are dangerous.
Anti-masculinity in queer spaces resulting in bio essentialism & gross actions against divers people. I have a lot in depth to say on it, but I feel ill. So that will take longer than I excpected.
It is interesting that people seem to be able to conceptualize "AFABs" as being capable of having complex experiences with gender, yet transfeminized people (presumed "males" and "AMABs") must subject themselves to impossible standards to perform womanhood enough to be acknowledged and accepted, lest we are just another patriarch who deserves nothing.
Hi, I wrote up a little letter for people to send to staff in response to their recent statement about the most recent transfem ban wave to ask more of staff concerning this issue. If that's something it's appropriate to share on this blog I've included it below as well as steps for submitting feedback below if anyone hasn't done it before or needs clear instructions. If you (or anyone else) have suggestions for me or want to make alterations/additions feel free. If this isn't the right place for it, no worries and have a wonderful day
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Dear Staff,
I appreciate that staff has reinstated some accounts that were banned in the last wave and I think the current "goal of responding to mistaken suspension appeals within 24 hours" is a good step in moving forward.
However, today I was made aware of the banning of a blog which criticized staff's well recorded actions against trans bloggers only hours after staff's apology went out. See here: https://www.tumblr.com/turbro/814174690287484929/this-blog-being-deleted-by-staff-less-than-3-hours?
The fact that this occurred indicates to me that knowledge about the issue is still being suppressed by punishing bloggers who draw attention to it, and implies that staff may not be planning to follow through on its promises to the LGBTQ+ community.
With this in mind, by the beginning of June (pride month) I would like to hear a plan for staff to:
1) Address the transphobia in their ranks by identifying which moderators, procedures and/or site features are causing transwomen and their posts to be disproportionately surveilled and banned,
2) Make both the banning and appeals processes more rigorous and transparent in general and when it comes to transwomen- especially transwomen of color- in particular,
When this plan is laid out, I want to see monthly updates detailing how and when each step of the plan is implemented.
Apologies are not sufficient redress for the material harm done to people caught in ban waves like the most recent one. People rely on social media like Tumblr as part of their social networks, for mutual aid, and even for their careers. As @husbanddaughter said before they were banned, "the normal number of people to have their accounts removed from your platform, without being given any warning or an opportunity after the fact to request any kind of appeal, based solely off of the false reports being made by open and proud bigots and serial harassers, is none…it certainly shouldn't be happening almost exclusively to an extremely vulnerable minority demographic."
I hope that Tumblr is willing to take these steps to become a site which is safe for trans people.
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Steps for anyone who hasn't sent feedback to staff before:
Go to this link: https://help.tumblr.com/
Click the light blue "Contact Support" button in the top right corner
From the Category drop-down, select "Feedback"
Write your message in the text box below (or copy and paste the letter above)
Complete the reCAPTCHA and click "Next" at the bottom of the screen
Next a "Does any of this help?" page will come up. Click the light blue "No, send my thing" button.
thank you to @adragonsfriend for putting the time in to make this and @transfem-issues for posting it!
reblogging for awareness and to include a version of the letter which doesn’t have line breaks for ease of copy-pasting. (see below) both i and OP are pretty small blogs so please reblog this and send it to bigger accounts who care/claim to care about transfem issues and ask them to reblog it too. we may not be able to make staff change what they’re doing but at the very least we should make them know how many of us there are and that we’re not happy with this shit.
version with line breaks for ease of copy-pasting:
Dear Staff,//I appreciate that staff has reinstated some accounts that were banned in the last wave and I think the current "goal of responding to mistaken suspension appeals within 24 hours" is a good step in moving forward.//However, today I was made aware of the banning of a blog which criticized staff's well recorded actions against trans bloggers only hours after staff's apology went out. See here: https://www.tumblr.com/turbro/814174690287484929/this-blog-being-deleted-by-staff-less-than-3-hours? //The fact that this occurred indicates to me that knowledge about the issue is still being suppressed by punishing bloggers who draw attention to it, and implies that staff may not be planning to follow through on its promises to the LGBTQ+ community.//With this in mind, by the beginning of June (pride month) I would like to hear a plan for staff to://1) Address the transphobia in their ranks by identifying which moderators, procedures and/or site features are causing trans women and their posts to be disproportionately surveilled and banned,//2) Make both the banning and appeals processes more rigorous and transparent in general and when it comes to trans women- especially trans women of color- in particular,//When this plan is laid out, I want to see monthly updates detailing how and when each step of the plan is implemented.//Apologies are not sufficient redress for the material harm done to people caught in ban waves like the most recent one. People rely on social media like Tumblr as part of their social networks, for mutual aid, and even for their careers. As @husbanddaughter said before they were banned, "the normal number of people to have their accounts removed from your platform, without being given any warning or an opportunity after the fact to request any kind of appeal, based solely off of the false reports being made by open and proud bigots and serial harassers, is none…it certainly shouldn't be happening almost exclusively to an extremely vulnerable minority demographic."//I hope that Tumblr is willing to take these steps to become a site which is safe for trans people.
The most nonpassing a trans woman can get while still being supported by the trans community is feminine, lightskinned/whiteskinned, skinny, eurocentric beauty standards, & maybe like. a shorter haircut or a big nose... MAYBE!!
and if she's anything less than that, she is like. a horrible person or something. (we all know why y'all react differently to Lily Tino than you do Ethel Caine.)
Hi, I wrote up a little letter for people to send to staff in response to their recent statement about the most recent transfem ban wave to ask more of staff concerning this issue. If that's something it's appropriate to share on this blog I've included it below as well as steps for submitting feedback below if anyone hasn't done it before or needs clear instructions. If you (or anyone else) have suggestions for me or want to make alterations/additions feel free. If this isn't the right place for it, no worries and have a wonderful day
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Dear Staff,
I appreciate that staff has reinstated some accounts that were banned in the last wave and I think the current "goal of responding to mistaken suspension appeals within 24 hours" is a good step in moving forward.
However, today I was made aware of the banning of a blog which criticized staff's well recorded actions against trans bloggers only hours after staff's apology went out. See here: https://www.tumblr.com/turbro/814174690287484929/this-blog-being-deleted-by-staff-less-than-3-hours?
The fact that this occurred indicates to me that knowledge about the issue is still being suppressed by punishing bloggers who draw attention to it, and implies that staff may not be planning to follow through on its promises to the LGBTQ+ community.
With this in mind, by the beginning of June (pride month) I would like to hear a plan for staff to:
1) Address the transphobia in their ranks by identifying which moderators, procedures and/or site features are causing transwomen and their posts to be disproportionately surveilled and banned,
2) Make both the banning and appeals processes more rigorous and transparent in general and when it comes to transwomen- especially transwomen of color- in particular,
When this plan is laid out, I want to see monthly updates detailing how and when each step of the plan is implemented.
Apologies are not sufficient redress for the material harm done to people caught in ban waves like the most recent one. People rely on social media like Tumblr as part of their social networks, for mutual aid, and even for their careers. As @husbanddaughter said before they were banned, "the normal number of people to have their accounts removed from your platform, without being given any warning or an opportunity after the fact to request any kind of appeal, based solely off of the false reports being made by open and proud bigots and serial harassers, is none…it certainly shouldn't be happening almost exclusively to an extremely vulnerable minority demographic."
I hope that Tumblr is willing to take these steps to become a site which is safe for trans people.
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Steps for anyone who hasn't sent feedback to staff before:
Go to this link: https://help.tumblr.com/
Click the light blue "Contact Support" button in the top right corner
From the Category drop-down, select "Feedback"
Write your message in the text box below (or copy and paste the letter above)
Complete the reCAPTCHA and click "Next" at the bottom of the screen
Next a "Does any of this help?" page will come up. Click the light blue "No, send my thing" button.
I fear people may purposefully misinterpret this if I don't clarify my reblog so:
Put your defensiveness down, really sit down and think about what this articule is saying, get all the way through it, and contemplate. Y'all on tumblr see any criticism of you or people on "your side" and jump to illogical extremes of defensiveness. Don't do that while reading.
Just. Read this. It's a super short read, took me under 2 minutes to read twice. But I'm faster so idk. Let's say it takes 5 minutes of your time at most. I have posts on this blog more long-winded than this. It's to the point and important.
Anyways, it does deppress me severely that a post I thought was a good introduction to the massive self hatred doom spiral that infects a lot of transfeminized spaces, killing off our youth who cannot see a future where they are free.. Keeping people from transitioning, keeping people miserable, in unhealthy spaces, digitally self-harming, etc... was then taken to be made an example of the issue.
I'd be remiss if I didn't touch on how discourse & the toxicity in those spaces didn't play a role in the lack of accessible, positive environments for transfeminized people to exist in. Online or off.
There's not a lot of options & it is isolating. It feels eternal. And since nobody talks about it, nobody gives these people a voice, they drown in their own misery.
I am lucky to be alive, to have came past this. But many still suffer every day. And I want to try and make them feel seen. To know somebody who's gotten over the bring is still thinking about those on the other side. They are not alone nor abandoned.
Yet, people who are not only self-harmful but at the point where their issues are harming others and encouraging them to stay strapped in their chains found the post and started fearmongering a message of love and acceptance. Nothing is sadder than the misery groups online can cause, and it should be evident with this situation.
There's a lot to be said, but I am going to be a person for a second and say: I'm deppressed, underfed, and too poor to eat so I feel too lightheaded to make an adequate response to the situation nor to go in depth on the nuance of how multiple social factors contribute to the adhorrent choices of space that any lost, scared, confused, isolated, ostracized, etc transfeminized person has to choose from.
Replying to this https://www.tumblr.com/dame-jigglebones/813061958398050304/ughhhhhhh-reading-a-bit-of-ops-blog-tells-me?source=share
Since they blocked me before I could reply (how normal).
Bare with me! Long post.
TLDR: this person makes a mockery of themselves, and I reply adequately.
reading a bit of OP's blog tells me this is def about the term "TMA"
This is about people defining trans womanhood by misery and suffering. As it said.
because you dont actually know what the term means.
I know what TMA means, and am well versed in the usages of it (both correct & incorrect) & the misconceptions that tend to cause people to misuse it. So, sure. Play ball.
TMA is not an identity, nor was it ever.
Naturally.
it has nothing to do with defining trans women by our oppression
Of course, since that would be highly preposterous & an inaccurate view of words we use. Like I said, womanhood is more than suffering.
but by identifying who is most vulnerable in the face of the oppressive societal forces of transphobia and misogyny.
Did Serano tell you this herself? Do tell her hello!
I kid, of course. I simply wish to paint a picture of how you are twisting what a word means beyond what it's clear intention was to be made for. I don't mean to armchair diagnose you, but I fear you are showing early signs of discourse addiction & brainrot.. It can surely warp your perception of others around you and important topics such as this. May I suggest a break from these things? Till you feel of the right mind?
Though, I do not mean to be getting ahead of myself. You could also just be entirely misinformed!
The word transmisogyny is not about who suffers most from this intersection and about how the intersection in general, it isn't about anyone else at all. It is specific. Julia Serano saw a phenomenon in her community, happening TO her community, and put a name to the intersection that was being faced - as well as some good literature behind understanding it! It isn't about who's "most susceptible" to be harmed by it, it's simply about the transfeminized class of people's specific experiences. Others can have similar, also experience this intersection in their own way, but this is our word we made for us and our community's experiences. To frame it as anything else is silly.
So, now that we understand what transmisogyny is, we can see that TMA doesn't really define itself as "who's most susceptible to experience this intersection." easily. It wouldn't make sense, becauee you'd have to change what transmisogyny means.
You may be wrong in a few ways:
Maybe you think the word is about the intersection in general, but somehow only trans women experience it the most. Your initial misconception about transmisogyng led you to further misunderstand what TMA means, and since you are online where everyone is malinformed at best - this was allowed to fester and be corroborated by people who are just as uneducated as yourself. Leading to a false understanding that you are confident in.
Maybe, you think transmisogyny is somehow only affecting transfeminized people because girl/fem=oppressed & experiences misogyny , Julia Serano speaks on this many times & the harm on it. (as well as other transfeminists, but it is her word so we understand it through her eyes.) This isn't how reality nor the patriarchy works.
Maybe you're mixing the misconception that the misogyny in the word is because "girl dislike" so it's a word about disliking trans-women/fems/etc , and the fact it's about intersectionality to have this dualthinking that leads you to the eventual conclusion of the cycle misogyny=womanhood=misogyny.
And maybe you don't care about what serano has ever said about her word because you don't like her, so you want to take the word and change it to your liking. Which would be ridiculous because without acknowledging where it came from and how misconceptions & ideas speead off of it, you are basically electing to not understand any of where the beliefs you parrot stem from and can no longer think critically about them. It's historical revisionism mixed with willfully blinding yourself to anything that can cause you to think as a person instead of a discourse label.
since you're mayyyybe a half-step at most from screaming about "oPpReSsIoN oLyMpIcS"
Mmm no, I just think you're poorly informed. But yes! Let us delve into how you view the ~oppression olympics~.
let me explain why that's important: we have limited time, energy, and resources to push back against these societal forces. focusing as much of that as possible on SPECIFIC issues gets us more progress on those issues.
This took SUCH an interesting turn. Okay, let's discuss this!
I disagree we have limited resources since we are talking about discussions. You do realized you jumped from "don't define womanhood by oppression" to "TMA is pawesome and we matter most" to "limited resources".
There are no limited resources in discussion spaces and queer theory, and I disagree with the notion we should only expand our efforts on one front as if it is not all connected. Especially as a group, trans women are not their own seperate group. Trans women do not suffer any more in some way that makes them a different fight than trans people as a whole (especially when we step outside of America). Why divide our efforts? What does that accomplish? People are dying now. If you mean REAL LIFE actibism, sure divide a little bit but not to the extent you seem to be suggesting. Maybe all organize to attack V-Coding one day, then all organize to attack abortion rights for trans men the next. Shit like that. Like "trans woman" is not a specific issue. We can divide up which issue our activist group we are working with atm is attacking, because messages are stronger that way, but it's silly to go "trans women suffer most on this" (not true) and "thats why we only focus on trans women". (still obscure and handling multiple issues at once while electing to neglect other ones that are intertwined.)
in this case focusing on protecting and uplifting trans women will get us, as a society, MAJOR progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. This isn't actually anything though. This isn't activism. "uplifting trans women" what are you actually doing though? And if it's so important to you, sure, go join a trans woman specific focus group. That's fine. It's still for the cause.
But misogyny intersecting with transphobia (misotransphobia) is a way wider issue, and it kind of seems like you're obscuring your own talking points here. There are no limited resources in "uplifting voices". What are you? Fakewoke? This kind of sounds like one iffy statement building upon itself. "Trans women suffer misotransphobia the most (untrue), so we need to focus our limited resources (true IN SOME CASES), and only focus our unlimited resources in this one area on trans women."
It doesn't make sense when you break it down. You can vaguely allude to activism as an excuse for silencing others. Because that's what this is, you didn't like my post was uplifting trans women in a non discourse manner, so you made it about your discourse because youre addicted and if theyre not with you theyre against you, then changed the subject to how only trans women experience misotransphobia.
You made a post about transfeminized issues about non-transfeminized people. You derailed important discussions for your discourse. You are doing nothing. Your ending will always be the same, I predicted I'd have to say this in the first sentence you wrote to me.
A discussion for transfeminized people by transfeminized people cannot exist if it doesn't serve your ego-filled discourse mindset, becaude obviously it is someone trying to trick you into genuinely caring about trans people. So you have to find a way to make it about your discourse (you chose the word TMA), and then from there get more and more derailed until you are fully discourse-maximizing. Denying the experiences of people who weren't even in the conversation and fantasizing about your own oppression points and how everything has to be about you. I'm sorry if I'm wrong but are you a white woman? Because I genuinely have only seen this entitlement from white women who are fake feminists, who bask in their own fragility. <- Cis white women as well.
Genuinely stop and think for a second about the bs train you have been on this entire time, I bet you were just bursting with anticipation writing this whole mess in my notes waiting till you bs-ed your way into finally getting to your real point, the only thing you care about: "I matter more than other queers & I will use my discourse credentials to prove it."
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Tell me, no seriously! How do you plan to make "major progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny" by "uplifiting trans women"... Do you like.. know what activism is? Or are you too far gone in your fantasy?
And especially since you want to ignore a lot of the more intricate issues that have nothing to do with you or inherently trans women. Ignore all the people who face this intersection, deny them even a seat at the table. Deny the wide array of systemic oppression faced by people you cannot feel oppressed-by-proxy over. Derail any discussion that doesn't regurgitate the points you want to hear over and over again. You inherently stop progress, yet you speak of it. Do you even recognize how far you've fallen? This feels like a depressing cautionary tale.
this is because we're affected by both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. And the other people who are? What about them? Or was I right with the cultural feminism bit. If you start talking to me about the divine feminine here in a bit I'm going to flip my lid.
TransMisogyny Affected.
Yes! A term you have shown clearly to not understand at all, nor have read up on with any active reading skills. (Maybe this is why Serano said she didn't like the terms..)
not only that but so many other groups of the queer community have proven they would rather throw us under the bus,
Nothing hurts worse than betrayal from other queers. But trans women throw other trans women under the bus all the time. Especially for the discourse which you seem to love so much. When will we stop the childish bickering and wars with each other and grow up? Do something to actually help somebody? You pray for our ruin I'm afraid. How are we expected to isolate ourselves, yet gain our freedom? How much doublethink are you capable of?
let the leopards eat our faces off, so they can get their rights.
Yes! And like you do to YOUR fellow queer. How quaint. It's like a poorly written tragedy.
and they do this because they are not affected by transmisogyny.
Every time you misuse that word an angel kills herself.
they are exempt from it. TransMisogyny Exempt.
"People who are not transfeminized do not experience transfeminized misotransphobia!" Wow. I am so so shocked. Anyways, they experience the intersection still...
You know, I could probably get you a book on what transmisogyny is? If you struggle this gravely?
oh and, no, not a single theorist talking about transmisogyny says or thinks there's no joy in transfemininity.
Yea, I wouldn't call them theorists either. Just horribly ill people who have turned to a miserable doom spiral that causes them to harm others. Intentionally or not.
that's so obviously untrue even conceptually, cause, why the fuck would she be trans?
You do know people cannot control their transness, right? Like, many people are trans and define it in misery. Famously. It comes with being marginalized. The issue arises when this mental health crisis goes unchecked and it leads you to harminv others or going down rabbit holes of harmful beliefs.
Eg. The trans girl that once told me all cis women are prettier than trans girls because testosterone was the devil and made everything ugly. She genuinely believed this, and believed she was being a radical transfeminist for saying it. It's no shock she only reblogged lolis cutting themselves. Damn shame to see people suffer so poorly. And there's a good conversation to be had about how discourse preys on the vulnerable like this, making them more miserable.
but even past that they actively talk about how awesome being trans women is on their blogs all the time.
That's great. What does this do? "Well miserable tgirls don't exist because ones who are a bit healthier in their view of trans womanhood exist." Wow!
goes to show you havent listened to a single fucking word we've said.
No, I have. You're just making a poorly researched fanfiction here.
You went back to the OG topic and are still so frazzled from the high you get from making everything supporting trans women about other queers and how miserable you are that you are speaking illogical nonsense.
op's blog def feels like a anti-transfem psyop meant to sow doubt in transfeminism.
Got all this from "don't define transfemininity by suffering" btw.
Everyone who doesn't support my obscure, misinformed, & clearly in bad faith beliefs is a psy op!
constantly posts in conflict with transfeminist theory
You don't even know what the word transmisogyny means. Do you think tumblr posts that agree wirh you are all "theory"? And are you aware theorists can disagree & discuss? Also if I'm CONSTANTLY doing this - why not show an example? Reply to the posts. Refute it.
while covering it in a thick layer of syrupy sweet "dont think about how youre oppressed or how you can change that, just be happy all the time and take your oppression with no resistance 😇"
Yea, no. I'm telling people not to be stuck in their misery. In a single post. I thought you said nobody was agreeing with the statement and all transfeminists agree with what I said? Now you turn around and say what I said is not transfeminist in nature & transfeminism is "talking about your oppression" which you are equating to "defining your existence by misery and oppression".
You successfully disproved everything you said about the actual topic at hand in one run-on sentence.
adding on to any reblogs on that post since obviously I cannot reply to it.. Keep in mind how malinformed this person is while we read these add ons
reblog on that addition: #saw a mutual reblog this post and got really pissed off. thanks for this addition.
I only said "don't define trans womanhood by oppression and suffering."
Very telling. Thought nobody disagreed with that message @dame-jigglebones? Hmm.. so weird! Thay you'd disagree with my message and it alone.
#op sux
Another one! So weird, almost like a certain group of people feel called OUT by this but can't SAY that so they want to discredit me.. Wow... wild..
#I got bad vibes from this post (prev wasn't who put it on my dash)#I go to ops blog and look up “transandrophobia”#The top post is her gloating over a dead blog thats telling people to block some of the largest blogs in the transandrobro circles
AND MORE! Wow. Supporting trans women ACTUALLY with 0 ulterior self aggrandizement purpose = transandro!!
Also. Do you mean the TME who wanted to use tumblr transmisogyny to ban trans women who disagreed with them? That post?
#as soon as you start comparing transfeminists to terfs you do not have an argument#how fucking backhanded
Do you mean the notes? Comparing the radfem beliefs about womanhood to being pain to other fake feminists beliefs about womanhood being pain?
Also! Again with the "no you just don't like transfeminists!"
I thought transfeminists agreed with this take? If they agree with me, and NONE EVER say this, why are so many disagreeing and getting personally offended and defending the belief with "well !! its just transfeminism!!"
yall r fuckin fake transfeminists.
Yea, well, when you can say "don't define trans womanhood by oppression" and the response is about shitcourse and how you are "a psyop" by somebody who doesn't even know what transmisogyny means, you'll have that.
Literally never understood this. "This extension owned by people who believe the same discourse stance as me also disagrees with you". Okay? Is this an excuse to be anti intellectual? To not do critical thinking because "the people who agree with my discourse side agree so I will just use them as a source!!"
Lol. I hate people willfully incapable of critical thinking. Or discussing.
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anyways, these tags explain the actual point for people dealing with a discourse addiction:
poetry
#it's also a continuation/evolution of transmed ideology with the idea you can't be trans without dysphoria and dysphoria makes you trans#combined with the miserable radfem concept that womanhood is defined by how you suffer by society rather than just you know Being a Woman#because if you are suffering just because for social forces outside your control you feel powerless#it feels more empowering to embrace that suffering when in reality it is a farce#it is a box imposed upon oneself to never be happy#and unless you accept that you simply are because you are#and that identity will persevere past the forces pushing you down#you will not escape that feeling#when one day if you do you may not lead a perfect life but you will look back and see how you felt before#and realize the progress in being happy as you is the most revolutionary thing and what these forces find most dangerous#they want you to crab bucket each other. don't fall for it. find your joy even if you need to crawl and scrape and scream for it
This is exactly the full message I was trying to convey and its super important to me. As somebody who was once stuck there and see so many tran women who stay stuck there. But, of course, you can profit off of actually caring.
part 2 of replying to people adding on and agreeing to this nonsense.
Other than the pretty straightforward understanding of "look, you can't claim that TMA/TME defines transfemininity as victimization, because that implies that womanhood is defined by victimization as long as misogyny exists, same as any other form of marginalization," it's true that identity shouldn't be a point of suffering, but the reason we have to band together is that the material conditions of transphobia and misogyny exist and affect everyone whether we like it to or not, and not being able to recognize and resist that is erodes our ability to support each other. I mean unless intersectionality means nothing. but i think it should
#I don't usually add on but i think the conclusion here can be pretty concisely made#transfeminism
Yea, nobody was saying shit about TMA. And also your point disagrees with who you reblogged, or at the very least isn't the same at all. Like idk what to even do with this telephone game anymore.
#blog called “transfem issues”#look inside#transandrophobia truther
transandrophobia truthing is when you make a blog only about transfem issues but someone has to make it about themselves with the most clealry bs rant you've ever read if you think critically about it & suddenly people who are afflicted with the discourse disease literally cannot read a word you say cuz "uhmm u r red n u dont dickride our pisscourse beliefs"
Mind you, only transfems mentioned. and only talking about transfem issues. in a sanitized space away from discourse.
imagine bringing up trans dudes on a post explicitly not about them then thinking youre defending transfems at all.
#it reads like an anti transfem psyop *because it is one*#transfeminism
message for transfems by a transfem about transfem issues is a psyop because uneducated people need something to discourse about
Seeing takes on here like 'trans women are defined by experiencing transmisogyny' make me so sad.. What a doom-spiralling thing to push onto the community, especially any hatchlings.
Instead of going "you are trans and thats okay, being trans isn't bad, the word just treats you in a bad way because of it and it hurts, sure, but you need to stay resilliant and relearn to love yourself and take pride in your identity" y'all wanna push the narrative that our trans identity is defined by pain and suffering. Nothing else. There's no joy in transfemininity, just suffering. Being trans is to suffer.
And that is a rhetoric I hate deeply. It is filled with so much internalized grief over trans identity, I don't understand how anyone would push that onto other people.
If you want to give up hope we'll ever get rights & believe that no trans woman will ever be happy, do that on your own time, but don't make it a major point in your queercourse opinions. Genuinely cannot believe I must make this statement.
Replying to this https://www.tumblr.com/dame-jigglebones/813061958398050304/ughhhhhhh-reading-a-bit-of-ops-blog-tells-me?source=share
Since they blocked me before I could reply (how normal).
Bare with me! Long post.
TLDR: this person makes a mockery of themselves, and I reply adequately.
reading a bit of OP's blog tells me this is def about the term "TMA"
This is about people defining trans womanhood by misery and suffering. As it said.
because you dont actually know what the term means.
I know what TMA means, and am well versed in the usages of it (both correct & incorrect) & the misconceptions that tend to cause people to misuse it. So, sure. Play ball.
TMA is not an identity, nor was it ever.
Naturally.
it has nothing to do with defining trans women by our oppression
Of course, since that would be highly preposterous & an inaccurate view of words we use. Like I said, womanhood is more than suffering.
but by identifying who is most vulnerable in the face of the oppressive societal forces of transphobia and misogyny.
Did Serano tell you this herself? Do tell her hello!
I kid, of course. I simply wish to paint a picture of how you are twisting what a word means beyond what it's clear intention was to be made for. I don't mean to armchair diagnose you, but I fear you are showing early signs of discourse addiction & brainrot.. It can surely warp your perception of others around you and important topics such as this. May I suggest a break from these things? Till you feel of the right mind?
Though, I do not mean to be getting ahead of myself. You could also just be entirely misinformed!
The word transmisogyny is not about who suffers most from this intersection and about how the intersection in general, it isn't about anyone else at all. It is specific. Julia Serano saw a phenomenon in her community, happening TO her community, and put a name to the intersection that was being faced - as well as some good literature behind understanding it! It isn't about who's "most susceptible" to be harmed by it, it's simply about the transfeminized class of people's specific experiences. Others can have similar, also experience this intersection in their own way, but this is our word we made for us and our community's experiences. To frame it as anything else is silly.
So, now that we understand what transmisogyny is, we can see that TMA doesn't really define itself as "who's most susceptible to experience this intersection." easily. It wouldn't make sense, becauee you'd have to change what transmisogyny means.
You may be wrong in a few ways:
Maybe you think the word is about the intersection in general, but somehow only trans women experience it the most. Your initial misconception about transmisogyng led you to further misunderstand what TMA means, and since you are online where everyone is malinformed at best - this was allowed to fester and be corroborated by people who are just as uneducated as yourself. Leading to a false understanding that you are confident in.
Maybe, you think transmisogyny is somehow only affecting transfeminized people because girl/fem=oppressed & experiences misogyny , Julia Serano speaks on this many times & the harm on it. (as well as other transfeminists, but it is her word so we understand it through her eyes.) This isn't how reality nor the patriarchy works.
Maybe you're mixing the misconception that the misogyny in the word is because "girl dislike" so it's a word about disliking trans-women/fems/etc , and the fact it's about intersectionality to have this dualthinking that leads you to the eventual conclusion of the cycle misogyny=womanhood=misogyny.
And maybe you don't care about what serano has ever said about her word because you don't like her, so you want to take the word and change it to your liking. Which would be ridiculous because without acknowledging where it came from and how misconceptions & ideas speead off of it, you are basically electing to not understand any of where the beliefs you parrot stem from and can no longer think critically about them. It's historical revisionism mixed with willfully blinding yourself to anything that can cause you to think as a person instead of a discourse label.
since you're mayyyybe a half-step at most from screaming about "oPpReSsIoN oLyMpIcS"
Mmm no, I just think you're poorly informed. But yes! Let us delve into how you view the ~oppression olympics~.
let me explain why that's important: we have limited time, energy, and resources to push back against these societal forces. focusing as much of that as possible on SPECIFIC issues gets us more progress on those issues.
This took SUCH an interesting turn. Okay, let's discuss this!
I disagree we have limited resources since we are talking about discussions. You do realized you jumped from "don't define womanhood by oppression" to "TMA is pawesome and we matter most" to "limited resources".
There are no limited resources in discussion spaces and queer theory, and I disagree with the notion we should only expand our efforts on one front as if it is not all connected. Especially as a group, trans women are not their own seperate group. Trans women do not suffer any more in some way that makes them a different fight than trans people as a whole (especially when we step outside of America). Why divide our efforts? What does that accomplish? People are dying now. If you mean REAL LIFE actibism, sure divide a little bit but not to the extent you seem to be suggesting. Maybe all organize to attack V-Coding one day, then all organize to attack abortion rights for trans men the next. Shit like that. Like "trans woman" is not a specific issue. We can divide up which issue our activist group we are working with atm is attacking, because messages are stronger that way, but it's silly to go "trans women suffer most on this" (not true) and "thats why we only focus on trans women". (still obscure and handling multiple issues at once while electing to neglect other ones that are intertwined.)
in this case focusing on protecting and uplifting trans women will get us, as a society, MAJOR progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. This isn't actually anything though. This isn't activism. "uplifting trans women" what are you actually doing though? And if it's so important to you, sure, go join a trans woman specific focus group. That's fine. It's still for the cause.
But misogyny intersecting with transphobia (misotransphobia) is a way wider issue, and it kind of seems like you're obscuring your own talking points here. There are no limited resources in "uplifting voices". What are you? Fakewoke? This kind of sounds like one iffy statement building upon itself. "Trans women suffer misotransphobia the most (untrue), so we need to focus our limited resources (true IN SOME CASES), and only focus our unlimited resources in this one area on trans women."
It doesn't make sense when you break it down. You can vaguely allude to activism as an excuse for silencing others. Because that's what this is, you didn't like my post was uplifting trans women in a non discourse manner, so you made it about your discourse because youre addicted and if theyre not with you theyre against you, then changed the subject to how only trans women experience misotransphobia.
You made a post about transfeminized issues about non-transfeminized people. You derailed important discussions for your discourse. You are doing nothing. Your ending will always be the same, I predicted I'd have to say this in the first sentence you wrote to me.
A discussion for transfeminized people by transfeminized people cannot exist if it doesn't serve your ego-filled discourse mindset, becaude obviously it is someone trying to trick you into genuinely caring about trans people. So you have to find a way to make it about your discourse (you chose the word TMA), and then from there get more and more derailed until you are fully discourse-maximizing. Denying the experiences of people who weren't even in the conversation and fantasizing about your own oppression points and how everything has to be about you. I'm sorry if I'm wrong but are you a white woman? Because I genuinely have only seen this entitlement from white women who are fake feminists, who bask in their own fragility. <- Cis white women as well.
Genuinely stop and think for a second about the bs train you have been on this entire time, I bet you were just bursting with anticipation writing this whole mess in my notes waiting till you bs-ed your way into finally getting to your real point, the only thing you care about: "I matter more than other queers & I will use my discourse credentials to prove it."
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Tell me, no seriously! How do you plan to make "major progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny" by "uplifiting trans women"... Do you like.. know what activism is? Or are you too far gone in your fantasy?
And especially since you want to ignore a lot of the more intricate issues that have nothing to do with you or inherently trans women. Ignore all the people who face this intersection, deny them even a seat at the table. Deny the wide array of systemic oppression faced by people you cannot feel oppressed-by-proxy over. Derail any discussion that doesn't regurgitate the points you want to hear over and over again. You inherently stop progress, yet you speak of it. Do you even recognize how far you've fallen? This feels like a depressing cautionary tale.
this is because we're affected by both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. And the other people who are? What about them? Or was I right with the cultural feminism bit. If you start talking to me about the divine feminine here in a bit I'm going to flip my lid.
TransMisogyny Affected.
Yes! A term you have shown clearly to not understand at all, nor have read up on with any active reading skills. (Maybe this is why Serano said she didn't like the terms..)
not only that but so many other groups of the queer community have proven they would rather throw us under the bus,
Nothing hurts worse than betrayal from other queers. But trans women throw other trans women under the bus all the time. Especially for the discourse which you seem to love so much. When will we stop the childish bickering and wars with each other and grow up? Do something to actually help somebody? You pray for our ruin I'm afraid. How are we expected to isolate ourselves, yet gain our freedom? How much doublethink are you capable of?
let the leopards eat our faces off, so they can get their rights.
Yes! And like you do to YOUR fellow queer. How quaint. It's like a poorly written tragedy.
and they do this because they are not affected by transmisogyny.
Every time you misuse that word an angel kills herself.
they are exempt from it. TransMisogyny Exempt.
"People who are not transfeminized do not experience transfeminized misotransphobia!" Wow. I am so so shocked. Anyways, they experience the intersection still...
You know, I could probably get you a book on what transmisogyny is? If you struggle this gravely?
oh and, no, not a single theorist talking about transmisogyny says or thinks there's no joy in transfemininity.
Yea, I wouldn't call them theorists either. Just horribly ill people who have turned to a miserable doom spiral that causes them to harm others. Intentionally or not.
that's so obviously untrue even conceptually, cause, why the fuck would she be trans?
You do know people cannot control their transness, right? Like, many people are trans and define it in misery. Famously. It comes with being marginalized. The issue arises when this mental health crisis goes unchecked and it leads you to harminv others or going down rabbit holes of harmful beliefs.
Eg. The trans girl that once told me all cis women are prettier than trans girls because testosterone was the devil and made everything ugly. She genuinely believed this, and believed she was being a radical transfeminist for saying it. It's no shock she only reblogged lolis cutting themselves. Damn shame to see people suffer so poorly. And there's a good conversation to be had about how discourse preys on the vulnerable like this, making them more miserable.
but even past that they actively talk about how awesome being trans women is on their blogs all the time.
That's great. What does this do? "Well miserable tgirls don't exist because ones who are a bit healthier in their view of trans womanhood exist." Wow!
goes to show you havent listened to a single fucking word we've said.
No, I have. You're just making a poorly researched fanfiction here.
You went back to the OG topic and are still so frazzled from the high you get from making everything supporting trans women about other queers and how miserable you are that you are speaking illogical nonsense.
op's blog def feels like a anti-transfem psyop meant to sow doubt in transfeminism.
Got all this from "don't define transfemininity by suffering" btw.
Everyone who doesn't support my obscure, misinformed, & clearly in bad faith beliefs is a psy op!
constantly posts in conflict with transfeminist theory
You don't even know what the word transmisogyny means. Do you think tumblr posts that agree wirh you are all "theory"? And are you aware theorists can disagree & discuss? Also if I'm CONSTANTLY doing this - why not show an example? Reply to the posts. Refute it.
while covering it in a thick layer of syrupy sweet "dont think about how youre oppressed or how you can change that, just be happy all the time and take your oppression with no resistance 😇"
Yea, no. I'm telling people not to be stuck in their misery. In a single post. I thought you said nobody was agreeing with the statement and all transfeminists agree with what I said? Now you turn around and say what I said is not transfeminist in nature & transfeminism is "talking about your oppression" which you are equating to "defining your existence by misery and oppression".
You successfully disproved everything you said about the actual topic at hand in one run-on sentence.
adding on to any reblogs on that post since obviously I cannot reply to it.. Keep in mind how malinformed this person is while we read these add ons
reblog on that addition: #saw a mutual reblog this post and got really pissed off. thanks for this addition.
I only said "don't define trans womanhood by oppression and suffering."
Very telling. Thought nobody disagreed with that message @dame-jigglebones? Hmm.. so weird! Thay you'd disagree with my message and it alone.
#op sux
Another one! So weird, almost like a certain group of people feel called OUT by this but can't SAY that so they want to discredit me.. Wow... wild..
#I got bad vibes from this post (prev wasn't who put it on my dash)#I go to ops blog and look up “transandrophobia”#The top post is her gloating over a dead blog thats telling people to block some of the largest blogs in the transandrobro circles
AND MORE! Wow. Supporting trans women ACTUALLY with 0 ulterior self aggrandizement purpose = transandro!!
Also. Do you mean the TME who wanted to use tumblr transmisogyny to ban trans women who disagreed with them? That post?
#as soon as you start comparing transfeminists to terfs you do not have an argument#how fucking backhanded
Do you mean the notes? Comparing the radfem beliefs about womanhood to being pain to other fake feminists beliefs about womanhood being pain?
Also! Again with the "no you just don't like transfeminists!"
I thought transfeminists agreed with this take? If they agree with me, and NONE EVER say this, why are so many disagreeing and getting personally offended and defending the belief with "well !! its just transfeminism!!"
yall r fuckin fake transfeminists.
Yea, well, when you can say "don't define trans womanhood by oppression" and the response is about shitcourse and how you are "a psyop" by somebody who doesn't even know what transmisogyny means, you'll have that.
Literally never understood this. "This extension owned by people who believe the same discourse stance as me also disagrees with you". Okay? Is this an excuse to be anti intellectual? To not do critical thinking because "the people who agree with my discourse side agree so I will just use them as a source!!"
Lol. I hate people willfully incapable of critical thinking. Or discussing.
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anyways, these tags explain the actual point for people dealing with a discourse addiction:
poetry
#it's also a continuation/evolution of transmed ideology with the idea you can't be trans without dysphoria and dysphoria makes you trans#combined with the miserable radfem concept that womanhood is defined by how you suffer by society rather than just you know Being a Woman#because if you are suffering just because for social forces outside your control you feel powerless#it feels more empowering to embrace that suffering when in reality it is a farce#it is a box imposed upon oneself to never be happy#and unless you accept that you simply are because you are#and that identity will persevere past the forces pushing you down#you will not escape that feeling#when one day if you do you may not lead a perfect life but you will look back and see how you felt before#and realize the progress in being happy as you is the most revolutionary thing and what these forces find most dangerous#they want you to crab bucket each other. don't fall for it. find your joy even if you need to crawl and scrape and scream for it
This is exactly the full message I was trying to convey and its super important to me. As somebody who was once stuck there and see so many tran women who stay stuck there. But, of course, you can profit off of actually caring.
Replying to this https://www.tumblr.com/dame-jigglebones/813061958398050304/ughhhhhhh-reading-a-bit-of-ops-blog-tells-me?source=share
Since they blocked me before I could reply (how normal).
Bare with me! Long post.
TLDR: this person makes a mockery of themselves, and I reply adequately.
reading a bit of OP's blog tells me this is def about the term "TMA"
This is about people defining trans womanhood by misery and suffering. As it said.
because you dont actually know what the term means.
I know what TMA means, and am well versed in the usages of it (both correct & incorrect) & the misconceptions that tend to cause people to misuse it. So, sure. Play ball.
TMA is not an identity, nor was it ever.
Naturally.
it has nothing to do with defining trans women by our oppression
Of course, since that would be highly preposterous & an inaccurate view of words we use. Like I said, womanhood is more than suffering.
but by identifying who is most vulnerable in the face of the oppressive societal forces of transphobia and misogyny.
Did Serano tell you this herself? Do tell her hello!
I kid, of course. I simply wish to paint a picture of how you are twisting what a word means beyond what it's clear intention was to be made for. I don't mean to armchair diagnose you, but I fear you are showing early signs of discourse addiction & brainrot.. It can surely warp your perception of others around you and important topics such as this. May I suggest a break from these things? Till you feel of the right mind?
Though, I do not mean to be getting ahead of myself. You could also just be entirely misinformed!
The word transmisogyny is not about who suffers most from this intersection and about how the intersection in general, it isn't about anyone else at all. It is specific. Julia Serano saw a phenomenon in her community, happening TO her community, and put a name to the intersection that was being faced - as well as some good literature behind understanding it! It isn't about who's "most susceptible" to be harmed by it, it's simply about the transfeminized class of people's specific experiences. Others can have similar, also experience this intersection in their own way, but this is our word we made for us and our community's experiences. To frame it as anything else is silly.
So, now that we understand what transmisogyny is, we can see that TMA doesn't really define itself as "who's most susceptible to experience this intersection." easily. It wouldn't make sense, becauee you'd have to change what transmisogyny means.
You may be wrong in a few ways:
Maybe you think the word is about the intersection in general, but somehow only trans women experience it the most. Your initial misconception about transmisogyng led you to further misunderstand what TMA means, and since you are online where everyone is malinformed at best - this was allowed to fester and be corroborated by people who are just as uneducated as yourself. Leading to a false understanding that you are confident in.
Maybe, you think transmisogyny is somehow only affecting transfeminized people because girl/fem=oppressed & experiences misogyny , Julia Serano speaks on this many times & the harm on it. (as well as other transfeminists, but it is her word so we understand it through her eyes.) This isn't how reality nor the patriarchy works.
Maybe you're mixing the misconception that the misogyny in the word is because "girl dislike" so it's a word about disliking trans-women/fems/etc , and the fact it's about intersectionality to have this dualthinking that leads you to the eventual conclusion of the cycle misogyny=womanhood=misogyny.
And maybe you don't care about what serano has ever said about her word because you don't like her, so you want to take the word and change it to your liking. Which would be ridiculous because without acknowledging where it came from and how misconceptions & ideas speead off of it, you are basically electing to not understand any of where the beliefs you parrot stem from and can no longer think critically about them. It's historical revisionism mixed with willfully blinding yourself to anything that can cause you to think as a person instead of a discourse label.
since you're mayyyybe a half-step at most from screaming about "oPpReSsIoN oLyMpIcS"
Mmm no, I just think you're poorly informed. But yes! Let us delve into how you view the ~oppression olympics~.
let me explain why that's important: we have limited time, energy, and resources to push back against these societal forces. focusing as much of that as possible on SPECIFIC issues gets us more progress on those issues.
This took SUCH an interesting turn. Okay, let's discuss this!
I disagree we have limited resources since we are talking about discussions. You do realized you jumped from "don't define womanhood by oppression" to "TMA is pawesome and we matter most" to "limited resources".
There are no limited resources in discussion spaces and queer theory, and I disagree with the notion we should only expand our efforts on one front as if it is not all connected. Especially as a group, trans women are not their own seperate group. Trans women do not suffer any more in some way that makes them a different fight than trans people as a whole (especially when we step outside of America). Why divide our efforts? What does that accomplish? People are dying now. If you mean REAL LIFE actibism, sure divide a little bit but not to the extent you seem to be suggesting. Maybe all organize to attack V-Coding one day, then all organize to attack abortion rights for trans men the next. Shit like that. Like "trans woman" is not a specific issue. We can divide up which issue our activist group we are working with atm is attacking, because messages are stronger that way, but it's silly to go "trans women suffer most on this" (not true) and "thats why we only focus on trans women". (still obscure and handling multiple issues at once while electing to neglect other ones that are intertwined.)
in this case focusing on protecting and uplifting trans women will get us, as a society, MAJOR progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. This isn't actually anything though. This isn't activism. "uplifting trans women" what are you actually doing though? And if it's so important to you, sure, go join a trans woman specific focus group. That's fine. It's still for the cause.
But misogyny intersecting with transphobia (misotransphobia) is a way wider issue, and it kind of seems like you're obscuring your own talking points here. There are no limited resources in "uplifting voices". What are you? Fakewoke? This kind of sounds like one iffy statement building upon itself. "Trans women suffer misotransphobia the most (untrue), so we need to focus our limited resources (true IN SOME CASES), and only focus our unlimited resources in this one area on trans women."
It doesn't make sense when you break it down. You can vaguely allude to activism as an excuse for silencing others. Because that's what this is, you didn't like my post was uplifting trans women in a non discourse manner, so you made it about your discourse because youre addicted and if theyre not with you theyre against you, then changed the subject to how only trans women experience misotransphobia.
You made a post about transfeminized issues about non-transfeminized people. You derailed important discussions for your discourse. You are doing nothing. Your ending will always be the same, I predicted I'd have to say this in the first sentence you wrote to me.
A discussion for transfeminized people by transfeminized people cannot exist if it doesn't serve your ego-filled discourse mindset, becaude obviously it is someone trying to trick you into genuinely caring about trans people. So you have to find a way to make it about your discourse (you chose the word TMA), and then from there get more and more derailed until you are fully discourse-maximizing. Denying the experiences of people who weren't even in the conversation and fantasizing about your own oppression points and how everything has to be about you. I'm sorry if I'm wrong but are you a white woman? Because I genuinely have only seen this entitlement from white women who are fake feminists, who bask in their own fragility. <- Cis white women as well.
Genuinely stop and think for a second about the bs train you have been on this entire time, I bet you were just bursting with anticipation writing this whole mess in my notes waiting till you bs-ed your way into finally getting to your real point, the only thing you care about: "I matter more than other queers & I will use my discourse credentials to prove it."
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Tell me, no seriously! How do you plan to make "major progress on dismantling both transphobia and misogyny" by "uplifiting trans women"... Do you like.. know what activism is? Or are you too far gone in your fantasy?
And especially since you want to ignore a lot of the more intricate issues that have nothing to do with you or inherently trans women. Ignore all the people who face this intersection, deny them even a seat at the table. Deny the wide array of systemic oppression faced by people you cannot feel oppressed-by-proxy over. Derail any discussion that doesn't regurgitate the points you want to hear over and over again. You inherently stop progress, yet you speak of it. Do you even recognize how far you've fallen? This feels like a depressing cautionary tale.
this is because we're affected by both transphobia and misogyny.
Okay. And the other people who are? What about them? Or was I right with the cultural feminism bit. If you start talking to me about the divine feminine here in a bit I'm going to flip my lid.
TransMisogyny Affected.
Yes! A term you have shown clearly to not understand at all, nor have read up on with any active reading skills. (Maybe this is why Serano said she didn't like the terms..)
not only that but so many other groups of the queer community have proven they would rather throw us under the bus,
Nothing hurts worse than betrayal from other queers. But trans women throw other trans women under the bus all the time. Especially for the discourse which you seem to love so much. When will we stop the childish bickering and wars with each other and grow up? Do something to actually help somebody? You pray for our ruin I'm afraid. How are we expected to isolate ourselves, yet gain our freedom? How much doublethink are you capable of?
let the leopards eat our faces off, so they can get their rights.
Yes! And like you do to YOUR fellow queer. How quaint. It's like a poorly written tragedy.
and they do this because they are not affected by transmisogyny.
Every time you misuse that word an angel kills herself.
they are exempt from it. TransMisogyny Exempt.
"People who are not transfeminized do not experience transfeminized misotransphobia!" Wow. I am so so shocked. Anyways, they experience the intersection still...
You know, I could probably get you a book on what transmisogyny is? If you struggle this gravely?
oh and, no, not a single theorist talking about transmisogyny says or thinks there's no joy in transfemininity.
Yea, I wouldn't call them theorists either. Just horribly ill people who have turned to a miserable doom spiral that causes them to harm others. Intentionally or not.
that's so obviously untrue even conceptually, cause, why the fuck would she be trans?
You do know people cannot control their transness, right? Like, many people are trans and define it in misery. Famously. It comes with being marginalized. The issue arises when this mental health crisis goes unchecked and it leads you to harminv others or going down rabbit holes of harmful beliefs.
Eg. The trans girl that once told me all cis women are prettier than trans girls because testosterone was the devil and made everything ugly. She genuinely believed this, and believed she was being a radical transfeminist for saying it. It's no shock she only reblogged lolis cutting themselves. Damn shame to see people suffer so poorly. And there's a good conversation to be had about how discourse preys on the vulnerable like this, making them more miserable.
but even past that they actively talk about how awesome being trans women is on their blogs all the time.
That's great. What does this do? "Well miserable tgirls don't exist because ones who are a bit healthier in their view of trans womanhood exist." Wow!
goes to show you havent listened to a single fucking word we've said.
No, I have. You're just making a poorly researched fanfiction here.
You went back to the OG topic and are still so frazzled from the high you get from making everything supporting trans women about other queers and how miserable you are that you are speaking illogical nonsense.
op's blog def feels like a anti-transfem psyop meant to sow doubt in transfeminism.
Got all this from "don't define transfemininity by suffering" btw.
Everyone who doesn't support my obscure, misinformed, & clearly in bad faith beliefs is a psy op!
constantly posts in conflict with transfeminist theory
You don't even know what the word transmisogyny means. Do you think tumblr posts that agree wirh you are all "theory"? And are you aware theorists can disagree & discuss? Also if I'm CONSTANTLY doing this - why not show an example? Reply to the posts. Refute it.
while covering it in a thick layer of syrupy sweet "dont think about how youre oppressed or how you can change that, just be happy all the time and take your oppression with no resistance 😇"
Yea, no. I'm telling people not to be stuck in their misery. In a single post. I thought you said nobody was agreeing with the statement and all transfeminists agree with what I said? Now you turn around and say what I said is not transfeminist in nature & transfeminism is "talking about your oppression" which you are equating to "defining your existence by misery and oppression".
You successfully disproved everything you said about the actual topic at hand in one run-on sentence.
Hey notallwhitpeople is following you and they are a very obvious racist troll who likes to stir shit up. They leave their "following" and "likes" open to try and direct hate to the blogs they interact with while posing as a serious acct. You dont have to post this I just wanted to give you a heads up so you can block!
I heard about that blog the other day but didn't know people were using their following/like tab to go after people. That's stupid as shit.
Hey sorry if this is very specific or has an obvious answer, but is this blog accepting of people IDing as transfem in a non-traditional way? Like transfemmasc and intersex or plural transfems who were afab?
Yea, I have too normal of a relationship with queerness & online/irl spaces to be a chud about queers.
Seeing this blog is so exciting! There's so many posts out there that have a bunch of good transfem and trans woman centered transfeminist theory, and then they just slip a few jabs in there at trans people who don't fit the aforementioned category. Like, the post could have centered trans women, it could have been a great commentary, but the urge to lash out with exclusionist fervor is too strong apparently. Seeing posts that Actually center trans women is amazing!
I actually agree 100%... I saw a post on the #transmisogyny tag here about a tiktok comment section.
Essentially, the commenter told the trans dude "hey! I mistook you for a trans woman at first - that's how well you passed!" essentially equating trans woman to = man - and it was SO disgusting. Unfortunately, I was unable to reblog it because instead of talking about how disgusting it was - the person who reposted it to tumblr just made it about how The TMEs were better off and horrible or whatever...
It's genuinely mind numbing to try and have discussion about your oppression when everyone rather go care about shit that helps nobody at best - harms everyone incredibly at worst.
It feels very isolating sometimes. I hope that every time I ACTUALLY post about important stuff for the sake of caring about it - someone out there feels less alone and more seen in their struggle. This bs just simply needs to end.
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