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Now repeat after me

coincidence is not the same as plagiarism

And just because you had an idea first doesn't mean you're uniquely entitled to that idea.

Are we really defending that OtterlyNoah guy here or is this some other unknown context. Cuz the former would look reaaaally weird right now lol.

Anthony Gramuglia: You're a terrible person if you don't use your platform to denounce ICE

*Drops a new Cyberpunk video denouncing cops*

*looks inside*

*Does not denounce ICE*

What did Ant mean by this?

#anthony gramuglia #youtube #fuck ice

rand0mact0fkindness

update: in which jazzy oliver tries to take down michael huang and immediately backtracks

(previous post here) shorter one this time. so not long after they made an announcement about their firing (which you might've heard of at this point), jazzy oliver decided to make another youtube post. it was quickly deleted, but people on twitter have corroborated that it is indeed real:

again, not the best look. ignoring that this isn't the best time to bring this up, i think there is a certain time and place to kiss your partner, and while the two of you are on-stage at an event in front of a child audience doesn't feel like it.

i gave them some benefit of the doubt when it came to the first post, but now, i don't know if jazzy knows what self-restraint is. again, time and place. if you just lost your job, would you be trying to say things that might give off the impression it was for the better?

jazzy needs to know better than this with how many controversies they've been at the center of by now.

Its so crazy that Jazzy genuinely believes she's fooling people that she toootally doesn't care about any of this lmao. After threatening a C&D because she got trolled online, to her genuinely unfounded and borderline libelist bigotry claims thrown at people for not agreeing with her on media, to literally not being able to stop talking about it for literal weeks, Jazzy has lost any right to say she was "calm and reasonable" whatsoever lmao.

You're mad. It's ok to admit that lmao. But you can't say someone is misogynistic every time they make fun of you for doing stupid shit.

you unironically used "lolcow" as one of the tags. I don't think you have any right to pretend like you're the reasonable one or like you genuinely care about any potentially harmful thing this creator did

^this u? like, I do NOT think you get to pretend you gaf about any potential harm done after THAT caption

Hilarious reblog considering Jazzy LITERALLY just got fired for defending a child groomer because she couldn't shut up online. It's great being on the right side of history!

Dude I don't even fucking know who that is

I'm just saying your focus on getting as many laughs out of the situation as possible shows that you do not actually care about what you just listed as much as you claim to

And the fact that you JUST pulled it out of your back pocket as an excuse for using the term 'lolcow' unironically furhter proves that

I mean I dont care other than it being hilarious. So I mean yeah? I'm not taking any moral stance by pointing out someone online is funny to laugh at. I don't exist on top of a soapbox like everybody else on Tumblr seems to.

So yeah she's a lolcow lmao

Its so crazy that Jazzy genuinely believes she's fooling people that she toootally doesn't care about any of this lmao. After threatening a C&D because she got trolled online, to her genuinely unfounded and borderline libelist bigotry claims thrown at people for not agreeing with her on media, to literally not being able to stop talking about it for literal weeks, Jazzy has lost any right to say she was "calm and reasonable" whatsoever lmao.

You're mad. It's ok to admit that lmao. But you can't say someone is misogynistic every time they make fun of you for doing stupid shit.

you unironically used "lolcow" as one of the tags. I don't think you have any right to pretend like you're the reasonable one or like you genuinely care about any potentially harmful thing this creator did

^this u? like, I do NOT think you get to pretend you gaf about any potential harm done after THAT caption

Hilarious reblog considering Jazzy LITERALLY just got fired for defending a child groomer because she couldn't shut up online. It's great being on the right side of history!

#lolcow #drama #jazzy oliver #inanimate insanity #voice acting

Its so crazy that Jazzy genuinely believes she's fooling people that she toootally doesn't care about any of this lmao. After threatening a C&D because she got trolled online, to her genuinely unfounded and borderline libelist bigotry claims thrown at people for not agreeing with her on media, to literally not being able to stop talking about it for literal weeks, Jazzy has lost any right to say she was "calm and reasonable" whatsoever lmao.

You're mad. It's ok to admit that lmao. But you can't say someone is misogynistic every time they make fun of you for doing stupid shit.

#jazzy oliver #drama #lolcow #voice acting #inanimate insanity #just logoff

I dont pretend to believe that Sai has never done a single problematic thing ever but... Do you really think that you're doing anything by attacking her every chance that you get?

Anthony has proven that he entered a friendship with Sai under the false belief that he could '' fix her ''. He seems to have been under some dilusion that Sai was someone he could '' correct '' and talk down to and that's not just him.

It seems that everyone assumed they knew how a woman was '' supposed to act '' and when a woman is just as out there and brash as men who do the same thing as her, somehow when she does it - that's ... bad?

It's sexism, pure and simple. You all drag Sai over out-of-context screenshots of her arguing with someone over slurs and Sai was on the side of all slurs are bad... ( but Sai also does not seem to believe that the R-word is a slur... this is a difference of opinion that is being blown up into a more serious accusation of racism. )

Calling Sai racist is akin to Lily calling her critics pedophiles or fascists.

You're doing it for the same reason that she is. To Silence someone who called you out.

And the fact that you're willing to downplay and give a pass to Anthony when he acts out and says dumb things or does dumb things ( like give Cd Call a superchat or attempt to commission her to review Evangelion ) ... that shows a clear and obvious bias.

I have attempted to be fair, but Anthony made that impossible. Dealing with Anthony for the brief week (before I got fed up with his run-around and blocked him )was a terrible time.

Anthony does not listen to others' opinions. He skims through other people's words and looks for a point to attack or some moral flaw he can use to discount their opinion.

He shows no respect for others. He does not value criticism when it is directed at him. And he's used to people coddling him like Crim has done.

He believes that Sai is bad and that he has the ' moral high ground,' but I think Sai making fun of Lily's writing is slightly less bad than Anthony giving like any amount of money. Especially given that Anthony KNEW the allegations against Lily when he did that.

Courtney was right to call him out - But you all ignored that because Courtney had burned too many bridges and refused to behave the way you expected her to act.

Now you are attempting to drive out new blogs that try and be civil. And it's working. I'm stepping away. G stepped away.

You're all racing towards the bottom in your quest to pretend that you're here for the ' right reasons '.

Say what you want about Sai but she's been extremely honest about why she made a blog and a youtube video on Lily. To defend Steven Universe and also discredit Lily by cutting down her media takes.

You know, one time I told Anthony that the way people talk about Vivinne Medrano (which also stems from sexism) and accuse her of things is the same as people accusing him of being a "rape apologist" for being skeptical of the site that broke the Neil Gaiman allegations.

His response to that was to break out the little boy tears and tell me how daaaare I bring that up it really upsets him.

He refused to see the point that yeah man, you know it's unfair and feels bad so why do you engage in the same behavior. Cause as much as he says he doesn't care about Hazbin Hotel he's more than happy to hop on that "haha woman showrunner BAD amirite?" train. And now he engages in that same behavior toward me.

As for Lily I got involved cause I was already doing my art stream and game streaming on Twitch. Hiding in Public did his video on her infamous SU is Garbage video and she made a response to it. I thought it might be fun to react to it on stream and see if she'd actually changed her opinions (spoiler alert, she hadn't) and I didn't know how deep the Lily rabbit hole goes at the time.

But it was actually Revolutionary Girl Utena that was the fateful franchise in all of this. Lily started saying shit about Utena in the middle of her Steven Universe response and I was so impressed by my own recall of the series despite not having watched it in full in over a decade at the time and not having been expecting to talk about it that I threw together a little 12 minute video for my friends and Tumblr followers called "Lily Orchard Doesn't Understand Revolutionary Girl Utena".

I had used my account to upload things for friends before as you can see by some of the older stuff I kept up on it. What I didn't expect was for this video to get 5,000 views out of nowhere.

I had been thinking of reacting to Lily's video on the Steven Universe movie as well, as that's what got me drawing my AU and kinda drawing again in general after a bad period in my life. And for whatever reason a fire was lit under me and I edited together that first big video that was a combo of the two reacts.

But I still only expected that to maybe get a few thousand views and then I'd slink back into the darkness. That one lead to me getting monetized and having 3,000 subs. So I looked around and said "yeah okay well I can't just abandon this new audience" and started doing my streams on YouTube as well. And now here I am with almost 25k subs after 2 years and a pretty good income stream from it. Not too shabby considering the number of people who have attempted to kneecap me along the way.

I've said this many times but if I actually planned to blow up like I did with the Lily cuts I wouldn't have just uploaded them to my personal account.

But then came the Lily Crit community. I was badgered and berated and brow-beaten and begged to "cover Lily's crimes". I consistently told people I'm not the one to look to for a comprehensive video on Lily like that, that's just not how I operate. You may notice I barely do any scripted content cause I'm just not good at it. I also emphasized I'm just an entertainer with my own issues and not someone equipped to talk in depth about a topic like sexual assault. But I kept that sideblog nontheless, something I made no money on, keeping receipts on Lily and keeping track of her more recent lies.

And that got me shat on anyway.

I invited Courtney into my Discord server to hang out after we had a chill time on Malcolm's stream not knowing she and Britt didn't get along. I, foolishly, expected them both to act like adults and take their personal beefs to DMs. Courtney assured me Lily talk doesn't faze her and that she understood my Discord was more of a hangout for my YouTube community and that I am first and foremost an entertainer. She proceeded to act like she should own the place the second she got there. It's like she expected all of my fans to smoothly transfer over to her cause she's the OG Lily hater.

After we overwhelmingly treated Courtney with a ton of grace due to her status as a victim she left, torched that bridge too, and started running around the internet telling people I "enjoy CP" because I laughed at 3 badly written sentences in Stockholm that featured two consenting adults who aren't related by blood. Lio Convoy started parroting her bullshit after she was in his community for a while and now acts like it's his original thought. I've never seen her get shit for being in Lio's community or pedojacketing a lesbian while simultaneously being weird with underaged teens online cause, well, I'm worse somehow for being me.

It's like all of these people felt entitled to me and my channel just because I laughed at Lily and got alot of attention all at once.

So what did I do? I said fuck it, deleted the sideblog and went back to focusing on entertaining people on my channel. Why the fuck should I participate in "holding Lily accountable" if I'm just going to get shit on, abused and cancelled for clout by people who like to pretend they'll actually do anything about predators. My Discord went back to being a peaceful place to shitpost and sperg about media after everyone adjacent to this bullshit was gone.

The only person who could possibly do anything legally to Lily is Courtney and she's too busy blaming everyone but herself for her current situation.

How Ant presents himself to the public

How Ant acts when he's called out for the most minor mistakes

So all I did is say Jazzy is a Z-list YouTube VA (she is) and make fun of the title of a slop visual novel she was in and she vomits out paragraph upon paragraph of her own insecurities in return.

How has she lasted this long on the internet?

Sai, your voice acting credits are <checks notes> incredibly homophobic and transphobic visual novel made by 4chan. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, you know? -Admin

I haven't voice acted in any games, people just liked my funny voices when I played through I Wani Hug That Gator on stream and keep requesting me to dub fanart.

Also where is there any homophobia or transphobia in that game? Because chat made me go through every ending and I didn't see any.

Then you should have your eyes checked. But that is a pattern I noticed with you - every time you like something, you will just pretend its problematic elements don't exist and people make them up, literally trying to shoot down criticism. Kinda tells what kind of critic you are - not one worth listening to. -Admin

Well then surely you can cite where these things are present in the game I Wani Hug That Gator if you're telling the truth and not just making up bullshit at the behest of a histrionic drama queen.

Are you really asking me to explain the bigotry of a game whose entire point was that scum on 4chan hated how queer Volcano High was and decided as a "parody" do a game where tinily-veiled knockoff of a character from it either is dicked straight or shoots up a school? I now see where that stupid fanbase of yours got the perchant for sealioning. I await the inevitable pinching at words and twisting details when you try to weasel your way into claiming that game did nothing wrong because you cannot fanthom something you like could be problematic in any way. I'm starting to see why you and Lily hate each other so much, same vector on opposite directions. -Admin

I do need you to explain because you're not talking about I Wani Hug That Gator. You know, the game I actually streamed and did silly voices to. Your talk of weaseling and word twisting appears to be projection.

Also why are you dying on the hill of Goodbye Volcano High? It's not even a game, it's someone's crappy original fiction with button presses that was only made because of how Canadian arts funding works. Oh no people made a parody and then pivoted into an actual indie game company off of it.

"There is nothing bigoted in game literally made by bigots who hated how queer another game was and you'd know if you played and watched my streams. Also, it is actually cool and based the bigots made that game because they told me the other game is bad so they must be right". Thanks for circling back for me to my original thesis - people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Also, "dying on the hill of"? Because someone disagreed with what you said? Talk about being melodramatic. You calling Jazzy "histrionic drama queen" and accusing me of projection both sound rather ironic now. -Admin

They made fun of a bad game and then made their own original game called I Wani Hug That Gator which you claimed is "homophobic and transphobic" but can't provide any examples because there aren't any.

Snoot Game is the one you're mad about. And what the non-binary character can... stop identifying as non-binary. As people also sometimes do irl. That's your "homophobia and transphobia" somehow.

You also described two of the bad endings lol. What you called "dicked straight" in reality is Fang becoming a tradwife.

So yes: you're just making up bullshit at the behest of a histrionic drama queen who has been melting down for a week and threatening to sue over hearing the truth that she's not as important and famous as she deludes herself she is.

"Dying on the hill of" cause why would anyone fight for the honor of Goodbye Volcano High. Did you actually play that shit?

And here it is, a refusal to even acknowledge something you like could be motivated by anything but pure and innocent criticism of something you dislike and not, say, hatred of queer people you'd expect from modern-day 4channers. Combined with such amounts of willfull ignorance it is indistiguishible from lack of media literacy. And you're STILL a person throwing stones in glass houses, btw. -Admin

Homie you aren't even listening. You're not talking about the right game, I Wani Hug That Gator, which has no transphobia and homophobia as you've claimed. And you're mischaracterizing Snoot Game, the one you're pretending to be mad about.

You're just making shit up and I know you're making shit up about games you've never even played in defense of another game you've never even played.

Show me where the homophobia and transphobia is in this game:

All videos related to Sai's I Wani Hug That Gator streams. She does voices and everything!

You know this game I have recorded evidence that I played it in full. Much like Jazzy you seem pretty comfortable dismissing my knowledge on a topic.

1. Don't "homie" me, we're not friends. 2. How bad is your channel doing that on every. fucking. step. you're BEGGING people to watch your videos? 3. You do realize this is all a tangent bacause regardless how many shitt games 4chan made, my original point - that your voice acting credentials are so nonexistent, you have no place deciding who is or isn't what list in the bussiness - still stands? 4. FFS you got mad about use of term non-binary in a video game for ridiculously petty "muh medeival fantasy purity" reasons. Are you also mad about the Witcher because Geralt is constantly caleld a mutant, also a modern term? Jazzy had right to call you out, throwing a fit so bad Ant had to stop participating in his own stream to tell you to stop was childish and immature, regardless of reasons. Get over it and, honestly? Grow up. -Admin

Saying Jazzy is justified in crying over 1 comment made at her by 1 person for multiple threads and literal weeks straight is so funny lmao. Yeah grow up Sai you obviously care so much as opposed to calm, cool, collected and totally not emotionally stunted Jazzy Oliver (tm) she's a voice actress you know

So all I did is say Jazzy is a Z-list YouTube VA (she is) and make fun of the title of a slop visual novel she was in and she vomits out paragraph upon paragraph of her own insecurities in return.

How has she lasted this long on the internet?

Sai, your voice acting credits are <checks notes> incredibly homophobic and transphobic visual novel made by 4chan. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, you know? -Admin

I haven't voice acted in any games, people just liked my funny voices when I played through I Wani Hug That Gator on stream and keep requesting me to dub fanart.

Also where is there any homophobia or transphobia in that game? Because chat made me go through every ending and I didn't see any.

Then you should have your eyes checked. But that is a pattern I noticed with you - every time you like something, you will just pretend its problematic elements don't exist and people make them up, literally trying to shoot down criticism. Kinda tells what kind of critic you are - not one worth listening to. -Admin

Well then surely you can cite where these things are present in the game I Wani Hug That Gator if you're telling the truth and not just making up bullshit at the behest of a histrionic drama queen.

You're bigoted because you played a bigoted video game

How is it bigoted?

Idk I haven't played it.

This is the level of Tumblr discourse I made this account for LMAO

Wow that Z-Lister comment really shattered her ego huh?

Jazzy what does anything have to do with you being trans? Trans people like anyone else are perfectly capable of having unimpressive careers.

Also when the hell did I call her a degenerate? She's just making up shit now. Sounds pretty defamatory.

It's actually so funny that @jazzyolivervo claims to be so unbothered by all the criticism coming her way over her failed attack on Smiling Friends 2 WEEKS AGO that she won't shut up about it. She literally has her shitty little flash cartoon she voices in showing in theaters soon and all she can think about is owning teh haterz. I'd hate to be so insecure honestly.

#jazzy Oliver #voice acting #inanimate insanity #drama

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Anthony gramuglia is literally saying youtube is beneath him and your allowed to plagerize people's videos because its not real academia. Hbomberguy would not approve

Jesus, you can't make this shit up

Thoughts on the kid that got caught flagrantly plagiarizing Otterly Noah name dropping you to advertise his next (probably stolen) video?

I have worked with Noah to help educate him on proper writing technique. I believe he has learned to not do that. He was basically just not educated on proper citation.

"He was basically just not educated on proper citation" Meanwhile Noah literally out here stealing people's scrips verbatim and cropping other people's edits for his videos lmao.

Yeah, and I helped fix the problem in a productive fashion by giving him the knowledge and tools necessary for him to improve.

You know, the very thing Sai rejected when I offered it.

You know any business worth it's salt would fire somebody who plagiarized as brazenly as Otterly Noah did. The fact you call yourself a professional and talk about loving being in "intellectual spaces" but are completely willing to overlook the most intellectually lazy thing a person can do when writing (literally steal other people's work and pass it off as your own) just to stroke your weird complex you have about helping people just goes to show how much of a grifter you really are.

I did not overlook it. I took it seriously.

There are two approaches we can take. Either cast someone out or try to educate someone so they can grow and learn from a problem. In every circumstance, I believe we should try to educate first. I believe people can be better than they are and want to help.

If wanting to help people improve themselves is a weird complex, then I am glad to have it. But please, explain to me how privately helping people learn makes me a grifter. I am fascinated to hear your compelling argument here.

Its not that helping people learn makes you a grifter that's just disingenuous of you and you know it (Reacting in bad faith is also a common grifter tactic, as you are aware). The issue comes in that helping a plagiarist demonstrates a lack of integrity when you claim to love writing and intellectuality. You prefer getting brownie points with randoms online by helping them when they outright don't deserve it.

A person who plagiarizes, ESPECIALLY on something with as low an incentive to do so as a personal YouTube video, will forever have 0 credibility in anything they say or do because there's no reason to take anything they say as valuable whatsoever. They are compromised.

You prefer the ass pats you get online over your supposed passion and that's just grifter behavior 101.

How does educating a plagiarist not to commit plagiarism equate to grifting? And how am I looking for praise when I am not loudly marketing what I did? Noah told people I was helping him learn, not me. I was doing it quietly.

We are only talking about it because someone else discussed it first.

What benefit does taking time out to help educate someone else have for me? How is the equivalent of free, private tutoring a grift?

I don't think you know.

Because even wasting your time on a plagisrist as a professional yourself demonstrates how much you lack integrity for your craft. Its not like Noah didn't cite a few things in his video, he stole edits from people and entire blurbs of script without a source. As a college educated writer I know you know how bad that looks. But you don't care about anything more than the self satisfaction you get from being the white knight for idiots on the internet. You can't help yourself. And its honestly sad how willing you are to smear your own reputation just for something as worthless as helping an intellectually lazy internet thief and openly try to run defense about how "Erm actually I'm just a good soft boy looking to help lost souls on the internet".

.... you realize I spent years working in education, right? Are you under the impression someone wants to educate someone for personal satisfaction, or because they want to see someone genuinely do better?

I suspect you are the kind of person who can't imagine helping someone else unless they stand to gain something material. And can't comprehend why someone else would do that.

It's pretty pathetic.

I'm under the impression YOU are someone who wants to help people for personal satisfaction, Ant. It's the only explainable reason why you would allow Noah to tarnish your professional reputation by telling the world you helped a plagiarist. And the only reason you would hold up being an educator over my head as if that has anything meaningful to do with the conversation whatsoever.

I find it genuinely insane you're so proud of this book you're writing, but are willing to die on this hill for somebody that does not even a little bit deserve it. You don't think about how shit like this effects your public image even a little bit before jumping in front of a bullet for the next online moron just for them to wipe their feet on you when they're done. And you just love that I guess.

That's a lot of words saying nothing.

Hey man it's your reputation you're ruining here. But you've always known that and choose to do it anyways lmao. Hopefully helping the plagiarist was worth flushing whatever sense of credibility you have as a professional left you had down the shitter.

Explain to me how trying to educate someone will ruin my reputation. I will wait.

You helped a plagiarist as a literal professional writer who claims to love intellectual integrity. Which means you are just a straight up liar and do not hold to what you believe. Its about as black and white as it gets.

I helped a plagiarist stop plagiarizing, which means there is now less plagiarism going on.

...so how is that bad? It eliminated plagiarism from happening.

You have no way of knowing that and from the very beginning its a worthless endeavor because now anything they write ever will be completely worth nothing because they plagiarized in such a low stakes environment. I have no reason to believe the behavior will stop and I'm not going to watch a thiefs content to find out.

What I will do is say that you 1000% should know better. The fact you don't says a lot to your lack of intelligence and integrity

Thoughts on the kid that got caught flagrantly plagiarizing Otterly Noah name dropping you to advertise his next (probably stolen) video?

I have worked with Noah to help educate him on proper writing technique. I believe he has learned to not do that. He was basically just not educated on proper citation.

"He was basically just not educated on proper citation" Meanwhile Noah literally out here stealing people's scrips verbatim and cropping other people's edits for his videos lmao.

Yeah, and I helped fix the problem in a productive fashion by giving him the knowledge and tools necessary for him to improve.

You know, the very thing Sai rejected when I offered it.

You know any business worth it's salt would fire somebody who plagiarized as brazenly as Otterly Noah did. The fact you call yourself a professional and talk about loving being in "intellectual spaces" but are completely willing to overlook the most intellectually lazy thing a person can do when writing (literally steal other people's work and pass it off as your own) just to stroke your weird complex you have about helping people just goes to show how much of a grifter you really are.

I did not overlook it. I took it seriously.

There are two approaches we can take. Either cast someone out or try to educate someone so they can grow and learn from a problem. In every circumstance, I believe we should try to educate first. I believe people can be better than they are and want to help.

If wanting to help people improve themselves is a weird complex, then I am glad to have it. But please, explain to me how privately helping people learn makes me a grifter. I am fascinated to hear your compelling argument here.

Its not that helping people learn makes you a grifter that's just disingenuous of you and you know it (Reacting in bad faith is also a common grifter tactic, as you are aware). The issue comes in that helping a plagiarist demonstrates a lack of integrity when you claim to love writing and intellectuality. You prefer getting brownie points with randoms online by helping them when they outright don't deserve it.

A person who plagiarizes, ESPECIALLY on something with as low an incentive to do so as a personal YouTube video, will forever have 0 credibility in anything they say or do because there's no reason to take anything they say as valuable whatsoever. They are compromised.

You prefer the ass pats you get online over your supposed passion and that's just grifter behavior 101.

How does educating a plagiarist not to commit plagiarism equate to grifting? And how am I looking for praise when I am not loudly marketing what I did? Noah told people I was helping him learn, not me. I was doing it quietly.

We are only talking about it because someone else discussed it first.

What benefit does taking time out to help educate someone else have for me? How is the equivalent of free, private tutoring a grift?

I don't think you know.

Because even wasting your time on a plagisrist as a professional yourself demonstrates how much you lack integrity for your craft. Its not like Noah didn't cite a few things in his video, he stole edits from people and entire blurbs of script without a source. As a college educated writer I know you know how bad that looks. But you don't care about anything more than the self satisfaction you get from being the white knight for idiots on the internet. You can't help yourself. And its honestly sad how willing you are to smear your own reputation just for something as worthless as helping an intellectually lazy internet thief and openly try to run defense about how "Erm actually I'm just a good soft boy looking to help lost souls on the internet".

.... you realize I spent years working in education, right? Are you under the impression someone wants to educate someone for personal satisfaction, or because they want to see someone genuinely do better?

I suspect you are the kind of person who can't imagine helping someone else unless they stand to gain something material. And can't comprehend why someone else would do that.

It's pretty pathetic.

I'm under the impression YOU are someone who wants to help people for personal satisfaction, Ant. It's the only explainable reason why you would allow Noah to tarnish your professional reputation by telling the world you helped a plagiarist. And the only reason you would hold up being an educator over my head as if that has anything meaningful to do with the conversation whatsoever.

I find it genuinely insane you're so proud of this book you're writing, but are willing to die on this hill for somebody that does not even a little bit deserve it. You don't think about how shit like this effects your public image even a little bit before jumping in front of a bullet for the next online moron just for them to wipe their feet on you when they're done. And you just love that I guess.

That's a lot of words saying nothing.

Hey man it's your reputation you're ruining here. But you've always known that and choose to do it anyways lmao. Hopefully helping the plagiarist was worth flushing whatever sense of credibility you have as a professional left you had down the shitter.

Explain to me how trying to educate someone will ruin my reputation. I will wait.

You helped a plagiarist as a literal professional writer who claims to love intellectual integrity. Which means you are just a straight up liar and do not hold to what you believe. Its about as black and white as it gets.

Thoughts on the kid that got caught flagrantly plagiarizing Otterly Noah name dropping you to advertise his next (probably stolen) video?

I have worked with Noah to help educate him on proper writing technique. I believe he has learned to not do that. He was basically just not educated on proper citation.

"He was basically just not educated on proper citation" Meanwhile Noah literally out here stealing people's scrips verbatim and cropping other people's edits for his videos lmao.

Yeah, and I helped fix the problem in a productive fashion by giving him the knowledge and tools necessary for him to improve.

You know, the very thing Sai rejected when I offered it.

You know any business worth it's salt would fire somebody who plagiarized as brazenly as Otterly Noah did. The fact you call yourself a professional and talk about loving being in "intellectual spaces" but are completely willing to overlook the most intellectually lazy thing a person can do when writing (literally steal other people's work and pass it off as your own) just to stroke your weird complex you have about helping people just goes to show how much of a grifter you really are.

I did not overlook it. I took it seriously.

There are two approaches we can take. Either cast someone out or try to educate someone so they can grow and learn from a problem. In every circumstance, I believe we should try to educate first. I believe people can be better than they are and want to help.

If wanting to help people improve themselves is a weird complex, then I am glad to have it. But please, explain to me how privately helping people learn makes me a grifter. I am fascinated to hear your compelling argument here.

Its not that helping people learn makes you a grifter that's just disingenuous of you and you know it (Reacting in bad faith is also a common grifter tactic, as you are aware). The issue comes in that helping a plagiarist demonstrates a lack of integrity when you claim to love writing and intellectuality. You prefer getting brownie points with randoms online by helping them when they outright don't deserve it.

A person who plagiarizes, ESPECIALLY on something with as low an incentive to do so as a personal YouTube video, will forever have 0 credibility in anything they say or do because there's no reason to take anything they say as valuable whatsoever. They are compromised.

You prefer the ass pats you get online over your supposed passion and that's just grifter behavior 101.

How does educating a plagiarist not to commit plagiarism equate to grifting? And how am I looking for praise when I am not loudly marketing what I did? Noah told people I was helping him learn, not me. I was doing it quietly.

We are only talking about it because someone else discussed it first.

What benefit does taking time out to help educate someone else have for me? How is the equivalent of free, private tutoring a grift?

I don't think you know.

Because even wasting your time on a plagisrist as a professional yourself demonstrates how much you lack integrity for your craft. Its not like Noah didn't cite a few things in his video, he stole edits from people and entire blurbs of script without a source. As a college educated writer I know you know how bad that looks. But you don't care about anything more than the self satisfaction you get from being the white knight for idiots on the internet. You can't help yourself. And its honestly sad how willing you are to smear your own reputation just for something as worthless as helping an intellectually lazy internet thief and openly try to run defense about how "Erm actually I'm just a good soft boy looking to help lost souls on the internet".

.... you realize I spent years working in education, right? Are you under the impression someone wants to educate someone for personal satisfaction, or because they want to see someone genuinely do better?

I suspect you are the kind of person who can't imagine helping someone else unless they stand to gain something material. And can't comprehend why someone else would do that.

It's pretty pathetic.

I'm under the impression YOU are someone who wants to help people for personal satisfaction, Ant. It's the only explainable reason why you would allow Noah to tarnish your professional reputation by telling the world you helped a plagiarist. And the only reason you would hold up being an educator over my head as if that has anything meaningful to do with the conversation whatsoever.

I find it genuinely insane you're so proud of this book you're writing, but are willing to die on this hill for somebody that does not even a little bit deserve it. You don't think about how shit like this effects your public image even a little bit before jumping in front of a bullet for the next online moron just for them to wipe their feet on you when they're done. And you just love that I guess.

That's a lot of words saying nothing.

Hey man it's your reputation you're ruining here. But you've always known that and choose to do it anyways lmao. Hopefully helping the plagiarist was worth flushing whatever sense of credibility you have as a professional left you had down the shitter.

Thoughts on the kid that got caught flagrantly plagiarizing Otterly Noah name dropping you to advertise his next (probably stolen) video?

I have worked with Noah to help educate him on proper writing technique. I believe he has learned to not do that. He was basically just not educated on proper citation.

"He was basically just not educated on proper citation" Meanwhile Noah literally out here stealing people's scrips verbatim and cropping other people's edits for his videos lmao.

Yeah, and I helped fix the problem in a productive fashion by giving him the knowledge and tools necessary for him to improve.

You know, the very thing Sai rejected when I offered it.

You know any business worth it's salt would fire somebody who plagiarized as brazenly as Otterly Noah did. The fact you call yourself a professional and talk about loving being in "intellectual spaces" but are completely willing to overlook the most intellectually lazy thing a person can do when writing (literally steal other people's work and pass it off as your own) just to stroke your weird complex you have about helping people just goes to show how much of a grifter you really are.

I did not overlook it. I took it seriously.

There are two approaches we can take. Either cast someone out or try to educate someone so they can grow and learn from a problem. In every circumstance, I believe we should try to educate first. I believe people can be better than they are and want to help.

If wanting to help people improve themselves is a weird complex, then I am glad to have it. But please, explain to me how privately helping people learn makes me a grifter. I am fascinated to hear your compelling argument here.

Its not that helping people learn makes you a grifter that's just disingenuous of you and you know it (Reacting in bad faith is also a common grifter tactic, as you are aware). The issue comes in that helping a plagiarist demonstrates a lack of integrity when you claim to love writing and intellectuality. You prefer getting brownie points with randoms online by helping them when they outright don't deserve it.

A person who plagiarizes, ESPECIALLY on something with as low an incentive to do so as a personal YouTube video, will forever have 0 credibility in anything they say or do because there's no reason to take anything they say as valuable whatsoever. They are compromised.

You prefer the ass pats you get online over your supposed passion and that's just grifter behavior 101.

How does educating a plagiarist not to commit plagiarism equate to grifting? And how am I looking for praise when I am not loudly marketing what I did? Noah told people I was helping him learn, not me. I was doing it quietly.

We are only talking about it because someone else discussed it first.

What benefit does taking time out to help educate someone else have for me? How is the equivalent of free, private tutoring a grift?

I don't think you know.

Because even wasting your time on a plagisrist as a professional yourself demonstrates how much you lack integrity for your craft. Its not like Noah didn't cite a few things in his video, he stole edits from people and entire blurbs of script without a source. As a college educated writer I know you know how bad that looks. But you don't care about anything more than the self satisfaction you get from being the white knight for idiots on the internet. You can't help yourself. And its honestly sad how willing you are to smear your own reputation just for something as worthless as helping an intellectually lazy internet thief and openly try to run defense about how "Erm actually I'm just a good soft boy looking to help lost souls on the internet".

.... you realize I spent years working in education, right? Are you under the impression someone wants to educate someone for personal satisfaction, or because they want to see someone genuinely do better?

I suspect you are the kind of person who can't imagine helping someone else unless they stand to gain something material. And can't comprehend why someone else would do that.

It's pretty pathetic.

I'm under the impression YOU are someone who wants to help people for personal satisfaction, Ant. It's the only explainable reason why you would allow Noah to tarnish your professional reputation by telling the world you helped a plagiarist. And the only reason you would hold up being an educator over my head as if that has anything meaningful to do with the conversation whatsoever.

I find it genuinely insane you're so proud of this book you're writing, but are willing to die on this hill for somebody that does not even a little bit deserve it. You don't think about how shit like this effects your public image even a little bit before jumping in front of a bullet for the next online moron just for them to wipe their feet on you when they're done. And you just love that I guess.

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