English: After thinking for a while that is the best for me to just give up on art (perfectionism, harsh criticism myself, etc...) I no longer find any joy and fun at all on drawing it...
2005 - 2025
Thank you for those years of creating art (drawings), but it's better to rest (give up)
I din'it asked you for giving frustrations when I'm on the process of the drawing (even fixing the drawing and expecting to turn alright but it ended up getting worst to the point to stop or give up on the artwork)
Perfectionism, harsh criticism myself, etc... ruined me a lot that I don't even want to take the Pencil to start to draw...
EspaƱol: Tras pensarme detenidamente si deberĆa seguir o dejar de dibujar pero es lo mejor de mi que rendir en el dibujo (Perfeccionismo, duras crĆticas conmigo misma, etc...) ahora no encuentro felicidad y diversiĆ³n al dibujarlo...
2005 - 2025
Gracias por la alegrĆa y diversiĆ³nque tuve en esos aƱos en crear dibujos pero es mejor que descanses (redirse)
Drawing I made for the emoji contest that was being held in the official Lies of P server :P
Feel free to use this image and spam it in the replies/dms of the official NEOWIZ/LoP accounts on Twitter!! They still havenāt released a proper statement on the use of AI to make concept art for future games!! As well as sending them direct complaints through this link
I STILL HAVENāT PLAYED THE GAME!! DO NOT COMMENT SPOILERS PLEASE!!
Some thoughts about whats going on within the LoP community:
please bear with me, im still navigating how I feel about Neowiz looking to hire an ai prompter ( im not even going to bother calling them a "creator" cause creator of wHAT bitch )
i dont know how to feel - my desire to draw is really low right now but i honestly will always prefer to support my fellow artists so you'll see me sharing the hard work and loving art made by others - you'll just have to be patient with ME, specifically, if you look forward to seeing my LoP fanart/comics.
I will be honest, I AM considering just not making any more LoP fanart. Learning there is AI in the actual game, no matter how small and unnoticeable, feels like an insult.
But I am also not beyond accepting an apology to the community for the use of it - and the active commitment to not use it going forward for any projects.
Will I have a hard time trusting them? Yeah. Definitely, with how sneaky it feels for them to not declare it's use in the first place. But I would definitely prefer to work on forgiving a company that accepts their faults, admits to the lazy corner cutting tactic, and actively chooses to change and respect the integrity of their properties and actual hired artists.
It frustrates me to no end. I go on and on about my arm injury making it hard for me to draw. I often see the art I produced before and after my injury and it causes me emotional pain to know that there was regression, especially with painting.
When I was initially injured there were periods of time I would cry and wonder what was the point of my existence if I wasn't drawing? I didn't think I would be able to draw again. And I didn't think I would EVER achieve my dream of drawing manga, cause how the hell was I going to draw? making manga is incredibly demanding and I'm here with an arm that hurt after drawing for 10-20 minutes. I was in an incredibly dark place and in that time I found Lies of P and fell in love with it.
He is even missing the exact arm that I have constant pain in! There were other more personal reasons that made me love the game. MANY of which contributed to me getting the Terrible, No Good, Bad Ending of the game that I clowned on in my first little comics I made for the fandom. But it held a mirror to my bad habits, parental trauma, and led me down a path of 'damn bitch, I really do need therapy.'
I still feel pain after drawing. It still hurts after just a few hours. There are days I can't draw at all because I woke up in pain. And yet, I still felt that Lies of P was something worth my efforts. It reignited my love of art and pulled me out of that dark place. My arm, despite it still hurting is STRONGER now. Lies of P even pushed me to ACTUALLY making manga. My experience making those baby Carmeo comics helped me to gain confidence to make my one-shot. And yet here I am working through the pain, for NOTHING but the love of the game, and they are looking to cut corners.
I'm bitter. I'm disappointed. Heartbroken. But again, I'm not beyond reconciling those feelings if there is a genuine attempt to change. But who knows? Maybe, after everything, I haven't learned a thing. Maybe, I'm just giving Geppetto my heart all over again.
Round 8 is looking into hiring AI āartistsā for future projects.
TLDR of my thoughts: I cannot understand how time and time again companies get rightful backlash for using AI yet more still think itās a good idea to implement it in their games.
You gain nothing by using AI. You just harm real artists, the environment, let down your fans and tarnish your reputation.
However we can still do something about this, it has been done plenty of times that when companies get enough backlash they back down from terrible ideas like these. Please be vocal on social media about why you are against this, and please be civil about it. No insults, threats or harassment, that is not going to help our case. Let them know AI we wonāt tolerate the use of AI and that they wonāt have support if they go forward with that decision.
Aside from social media, you can let them know in their contact form: https://www.neowiz.com/en/inquiry?inquiryType=support
Neowiz, the magic that makes the world more fun.
For my full detail thoughts:
Itās so baffling to me that they are hiring AI āartistsā. When people use AI for their creative works, itās because they are too lazy to hire actual people to do the work themselves, like people using AI for their games instead of hiring an artist, or people using AI for their books to edit them instead of hiring an editor, amongst other examples. Of course all of those are wrong, but what Iām trying to say is why would you ever hire someone to do AI for you? Are you even more lazy that you canāt type a bunch of words on a computer?
Itās peak laziness, literally anything just to not work with real artists.
Now something more nuanced is that we have to think of who made this decision, because I heavily doubt this was a decision that was agreed upon by everyone in the company, itās possible this is the choice of higher ups and that the creative part of the team has nothing to do with this decision, and why we need to remain civil and not make assumptions.
To put an example of a similar situation. Overwatch is a game that had planned a PvE mode for its sequel, the people behind the PvE gave all their passion and hard work into the project, but because Blizzard didnāt think it would give them enough sales, they cancelled the work. The creative team behind it got harassment and threats over a choice that wasnāt theirs, they were blamed and demonized when more than anyone else, they wanted that project to happen.
Like think of the art book that was released a while ago, where it shows all the passion that went into creating the art direction on this game. Does it seem that the people who worked so hard on it would suddenly be a-okay with their hard work being replaced by AI?
Which is why I think itās very important at the moment not to make assumptions. Sure it could be true that maybe everyone was on board with this choice, but if thatās not the case, then innocent people are being hurt and blamed over something they had no control over.
I think (and hope) the best case scenario is that they donāt use AI and that they make an apology. Thought even in that scenario, I think I wouldnāt blame anyone for still not wanting to support them and not thinking that they would be true to their word and not use AI. They have broken the trust people had in them and I donāt think that itās going to be an easy thing to repair; honestly it shouldnāt be an easy thing to repair because even in the best case scenario I donāt want them to simply get a slap on the wrist for doing something that should have never happened.
I can say that Iām proud the fandom has very vocal on the official discord server and other places that they are against AI being used. Glad to know we are not one of those fandoms weāre people are either indifferent or supportive AI.
Lastly it feels needless to say but Iām saying it anyways. Support real artists, there are so many talented artists, writers or other creative types in this fandom that deserve all the support for the things they create.
Hoping for the best outcome in this situation, and hoping everyone on the fandom the best in their daily lives.
Ik most people around my tumblr know this already, but ChatGPT is made to LOOK LIKE it knows what it's talking about, meaning it will say the wrong thing with 100% confidence. It will not hesistate to send you a link to a website with advice that will kill you because its data says that website sounds the most plausible.
English: For those who don't have Twitter and are not able to view or read the post (some will pop up of to log in in order to read them), I will share here alongside with translation both English and Spanish.
Thank you Lethy for providing information about Round8 and the job listing page on Neowiz website (I asked their permission to post it)
They have changed the name job list from "AI Creator" to "Technical Artist" same goes of their description yesterday.
@/ViviVovo who shared the screenshot:
https://x.com/ViviVovo/status/2055509247421718958?s=20
I am aware of the recent developments and depressing news that Lies of P has Used Artificial Intelligence in their game and Neowiz is hiring a AI prompter I Am beyond disappointed. Itās devastating to see a series you love so much be hurt because of management incompetence and lack of integrity.
This game means so much to me. Itās phenomenal character designs and art kickstarted my own Art journey and while Iām not perfect I hope to improve each day.
Using Ai in your work is setting a bad precedent that cheating out hard working artist with something artificial can be used in developing.
At the end of the day. Youāve lost a lot of trust from the artist in your community and itās going to be very difficult to gain peopleās trust back after this situation.
Listen to your community Neowiz Do not use Artificial Intelligence for Lies of Pās sequel or any of your future projects.
I made a tweet 2 days ago about Round8 on Neowiz website on the job listing page where they're hiring "AI Creators" not related to Lies of P sequel according to Neowiz "statement" has shared, it's for the other games they're working with.
You can see the tweet with translation in both English and Spanish.
--------------ā----
EspaƱol: Hola a todos/as
Hice un tweet hace 2 dĆas por tema de que Round8 en la web de Neowiz de la pĆ”gina de contrataciĆ³n en donde estĆ”n buscando "Creadores de IA" para el futuro proyecto de otros juegos. No estĆ” relacionada de la secuela.
I've been seeing an uptick of people finding my post on bsky about the gen-ai in lies of p so I figure I'll reference the images here too
Like all the landscape paintings I've found were ai-generated and there's clear machine translation for the text in game
There might be more, I've seen people say that some of the posters might be as well (I suspected some of the zoo ones were, but I didn't look too closely)
I Did report the game to steam as neowiz did not mark their game as using ai generated material, but I don't know if anything came of that...
So we have gotten a response from Lies of P creators, I'm glad to see them adress so quickly because I kinda thought they weren't going to say anything for a least a while longer so that's good (even if I would say it's a bare minimum).
Ofc I'm glad Lies of P sequel is going to be human made when it's going to be released BUT I'm not happy that they're still going to use AI in any way, even if it's their own assets and it's just for concept art.
I also been reading others people's reaction and I'm not surprised people are skeptical, some still say they won't support them anymore. Some said that this is just a response to calm us down, that we actually won't know how much AI stuff might actually go into the game. Especially when people have pointed out that in Lies of P there are some AI generated paintings.
I completely had no idea about this, maybe because I didn't play that much attention to the paints and focused on the game much more, but seeing this is disappointing and definitely takes away from the credibility of the studio.
As for my own personal thoughts? They're mixed.
Do I still love franchise? Yes of course. Do I want to support the studio? No, I'm genuinely disgusted and I don't know if I want to trust them.
I guess we all have to continue to pester them and let them know that we're unhappy with their decision. Maybe we still can do more, I hope for it.
Speaking of it, they have answered my email. I have seen someone else on Twitter post that they got response from Neowiz as well so I'm guessing everyone who emailed them about this got the same response.
I'm glad they answered, tbh I didn't think they would. The response is pretty much the same they have told in the Eurogamer thingy.
I still have mixed feelings obviously, and I still hold so much love for the game, but obviously like I said, I am pretty much disgusted at them to some extent.
Although, I don't say my final word yet, like I said we should pester them and see what they're going to do and what they're going to say. I hope we can still do something to save it if we pressure them enough so I think it's important that we don't stop talking about it so they know we're not happy.
I still think we can do so much so let's not stop talking about this!
I saw people on Twitter talking that they're going to email the studio regarding their discontent with their decision to use AI. I have decided to do the same - I have let them know that although I love Lies of P so much, I will not support them if they won't change their mind, despite how hyped I was for the sequel.
Maybe this is a way to go, maybe we all should email them, let them know that we disagree with their decision and that we won't support them and won't buy the sequel if AI is going to be involved. I hope they listen if we all let them know.
I think it's better to try and let them know, hopefully we can make them change their minds!
Hearing about neowiz trying to hire an ai artist for the next game genuinely breaks my heart, I absolutely loved lies of p and the dlc and was so excited to find out they were doing wizard of oz next and I absolutely love the wizard of oz, I really hope with the backlash that they change their minds on it and go back to human art!
Hello tumblr Lies of P community, Iām actually not quite sure if this information has reached here (apparently way back during St. Patrickās day there was someone calling this out) but basically I discovered that NEOWIZ has opened a job position for a generative AI creator, which as a vehement hater of gen AI I find disappointing and downright stupid
Now I havenāt played Lies of P (not because I donāt want to, itās because I have a 4+ year old laptop that couldnāt possible run it properly) but I find this insulting to all the artists who put hours of their time on this game, so I was able to find a way to contact NEOWIZ through this link
The main points of my emails were me expressing my disappointment on their decision (as well as specifying that it is an opinion many others share), mentioning how AI steals othersā work and has replaced many artists already, and that in general they should back out of this decision because more people will like their games if they do
Iāve never checked the LoP tags (because Iām avoiding spoilers) so thereās a chance others have already brought this up and maybe thereās an entire boycott happening that I donāt know about, but basically Iām sharing this because maybe if enough people write to NEOWIZ theyāll actually read what we have to say and consider backing out; it might be wishful thinking on my part but I REALLY want to play this game and iād feel a very bitter taste in my mouth knowing any and all future content it might get could be made with generative AI
